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Big Donkey - insult

Post by scorpsche » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:30 pm

Big Donkey accused me contiously to be a multi without any proof.
I demand to stop his or give me a fine for that.
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:32 pm

I'm for giving you a fine, since you gave that option.
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by scorpsche » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:33 pm

Open a thread then.
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:47 pm

Why, you said it was an option to give you a fine for that.
That in this context is me saying you are a multi.
And you then say giving you a fine for that (me saying you are a multi) is an option.
I'm absolutely ok with this proposal, we can even do both, I stop saying you are a multi, and you get a fine. Or just you a fine is fine too.
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:46 pm

Should I post the lies this despicable user posted about my character?
As long as this bully won't assume responsibility over his actions, starting to insult me without reason in a race, then complaining when I hit back, I don't see any reason to change my opinion of the guy.
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:48 pm

And could I add that once again I completely ignored the above despicable user, until he thought he had to drop my name and take a potshot at me?
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by scorpsche » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:32 am

Big Donkey does continue with this baseless accusation / insult :roll:
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by scorpsche » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:20 pm

"Big Donkey: Shut up multi."
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by scorpsche » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:26 pm

Race chat Krk Cabar 15h at 15:26:
"Big Donkey: That's because they let people like SWE post lies and lies and they are never punished for it.
Big Donkey: You're a coward, and a hypocrite. In addition to being a liar and a multi."
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by scorpsche » Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:52 pm

...something to add:
It seems one reason why this topic doesn't move forward is also the understanding of at least one fpc member of what is an insult and what is appropriate.

Let me post here the relevant part of the chat of today's KRK - Cabar 15h (read from bottom).
Please go ahead to write if something is out of context or not.
But Big Donkey not being fined for his provoking & disrespectful attitude will be always a problem - kind that in mind.

"Team FL: You just twisted my words as the Big Donkey accused you of doing it with his words before.
Team FL: So I don't say it's okay to insult somebody.
TeamSWE: Then I wonder if it is a) a good idea to have the rules or b) you are a part of fpc
Team FL: And you get it wrong: I say it's not an insult :)
Team FL: I don't see any.
Team FL: Who is a FC member here?
TeamSWE: If you as fpc member say it is ok to insult someone
Team FL: Any ideas?
Team FL: But in general you're right. We should rather write about the race. So what do we do in front?
Team FL: Ah, isn't it more fun like this? :)
Team FL: I rather have these words thrown around than just ignore your behaviour silently and accepting it as part of this game's "culture.".
TeamSWE: Say someone from fpc...nice one
Big Donkey: Too slow again.
Big Donkey: Dammit
Big Donkey: If it's used correctly, like in this case.
Team FL: yours.
TeamSWE: Then explain one case where it is an improvement
Team FL: This is not exactly a simple yes or no question. The circumstances are important.
Team FL: say.
Team FL: It depends I would asy.
Team FL: Haha
TeamSWE: Do you think it is an improvement for a community culture to throw these words at each other: yes or no?
Big Donkey: Today Big Donkey=Taylor Swift. Then nothing to do with you. What's that if not cowardice?
Big Donkey: What is that if not hypocrisy?
Big Donkey: You say you are against collusion, but you said in the main chat that you are ready to go down that road.
TeamSWE: let's ask a simple yes or no question
Team FL: And even in context, you have to be kind of a prima donna to see tham as worthy insults to post them in the forum, in my opinion.
Team FL: And as far as I know, the words themselves are not an insult per se.
Team FL: I know what they mean, but if they fit, it's not an insult, it's a correct decription.
TeamSWE: FL maybe look up the words "coward" and "hypocrite" in a dictionary
Team FL: Don't know if the cereals have any impact on that.
Team FL: Today.
Team FL: I think it's fun so far.
Big Donkey: Too much cereals, now you're feeding the troll?
Team FL: Hmm.. I don't really see an insult in your latest postings in the forum, TeamSWE.
Team FL: But be assured, minots is okay. He rides for his team. He sometimes gets a bit too active. But he's a good sport.
TeamSWE: je ne parle pas francaise...aber bitte red weiter *sing*
Team FL: He only speaks French :D
Big Donkey: For fuck's sake, how embarrasing do you want to get SWE?
Big Donkey: And then he is "offended" when he's called what he is. A hypocrite.
Team FL: Ask him.
Big Donkey: While at the same time announcing that he will ignore the fairness rules too if he feels like it.
Team FL: minots usually riders in every race. That's pretty well known. Maybe know by TeamSWE who focuses on Italian Teams only.
Big Donkey: When it hurts him his whining like a Baby who sees SWE in front of him.... and opens fairness threads after fairness threads.
Team FL: minots is AGF, no?
Big Donkey: And because it helps him, SWE isn't saying anything. Interesting.
Big Donkey: Deep stuff.
TeamSWE: *updated my post*
Big Donkey: Idiocies like: Donkey confirmed that "abc", when Donkey never confirmed something as stupid as abc.
Big Donkey: That's because they let people like SWE post lies and lies and they are never punished for it.
Big Donkey: You're a coward, and a hypocrite. In addition to being a liar and a multi.
Big Donkey: You'd go cryyyyyyyyyyyyyyying to the forum.
Team FL: Oh don't bullshit yourself, TeamSWE. At least be so decent to stand up for what you do.
TeamSWE: trouble, trouble
Big Donkey: TeamSWE=some bad word.
Team FL: "Cause I knew you were trouble when you walked in..."
TeamSWE: i just compared taylor swift to a big donkey
TeamSWE: i didn't mention your name
Team FL: yep. But don't ask, just do, King Ryders ;)
Big Donkey: You are malware.
Big Donkey: And then you need to get banned of course.
TeamSWE: csf is not a malware site ;)
Big Donkey: Well, you need to learn to shut up and not mention my name, and you need to apologize for lying every ay about something.
Team FL: Something like this.
TeamSWE: timeless quasi
Team FL: e.g.: "In today's one day race xyz, Team whatever wrote in the race chat: "nobodycaresanyway"
Big Donkey: I still have no intention of clicking on your links... most likely you link them to sites full of malware.
TeamSWE: it's everyday always when we get involved in chat
Team FL: Just a tip, TeamSWE, write when he wrote it. It's out of context this way.
TeamSWE: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=5490&p=97830#p97830
Big Donkey: TeamSWE
Team FL: let's go blue in front.
Big Donkey: Shut up multi.
Team FL: if you want to see the riders that have good chances, filter by 65 mountain, order by sprint and look who has a good downhill skill.
Team FL: final km is -9%
Team FL: with 58 downhill.
TeamSWE: big donkey = taylor swift
Team FL: You're Taylor Swifts song inspiration?
Big Donkey: Trouble maker
Team FL: Ok, let's wait in front, looks good enough for G2
Team FL: happens, RC Cost. Obviously. But then again, you ride.
TeamSWE: i guess donkey was problem now ;)
Team FL: rsv lünen, solange im peloton tempo gefahren wird, sollten wir vorne auch fahren.
Team FL: oh, peloton rides, then tempo in front. hihi.
Team FL: more teams, more fun.
Team FL: lets wait in front.
Team FL: Ah, I get it, me neither. I need a coffee first :)
Team FL: No?
Team FL: Now everybody is happy, right? :)
Team FL: Do you wait in front, rsv lünen?
Team FL: This is tactics.
Team FL: Where is hate?
Team FL: hate?
TeamSWE: ...so much hate
Team FL: Pfff.. you have to work for it, Big D.
Team FL: Uh, that's a lot of teams.
Team FL: FL as well?
Team FL: :)
Team FL: Let's go red in front with the pullers.
Team FL: Somewhere it is.
TeamSWE: hi
Team FL: Hi everybody. "
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by scorpsche » Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:50 pm

Seems he can't stop (since FPC is inactive), from today: "Big Donkey<14:02>: https://twitter.com/Der_Multi_postet_Mi ... 0351975671"
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by scorpsche » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:45 am

New day, new donkey messages:
"Big Donkey<10:35>: He's just a multi who got bored of behaving properly and now he wants to have "fun" again... "
"Big Donkey<12:35>: Or maybe you're BMX."
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by scorpsche » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:26 pm

Big Donkey<16:25>: Don't know, what did the multi say exactly?
Team FL<16:24>: So you agree with TeamSWE :)
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by Robyklebt » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:28 pm

Where's the insult?
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by Robyklebt » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:29 pm

If you're going to post this under insult each time, maybe you should try to contain your racism a bit... all these messages about "Italians", see Lques quote in another thread seem much more problematic that calling a multi a multi.
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by scorpsche » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:22 pm

Robyklebt wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:29 pm
If you're going to post this under insult each time, maybe you should try to contain your racism a bit... all these messages about "Italians", see Lques quote in another thread seem much more problematic that calling a multi a multi.
Not sure if you are a proper expert to jugde about insults looking into your fine history. :idea:
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by Robyklebt » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:52 pm

Why not? Just because I do insult people (in cases I think they deserve it), doesn't mean I can't judge when others don't behave properly.

And I never said you are a fairplay bot btw, why would I, fairplay is not something you are known for.
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by scorpsche » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:11 pm

Robyklebt wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:52 pm
Why not? Just because I do insult people
...I think the quote can be stopped exactly there.
You admit you do it.
You have been punished in the past.
You are not able to change.

So either you have to be punished harder (ban or something) or start a therapy.

The first one is not on me to decide.

Regarding the therapy this might be a good start for you:
https://www.goodtherapy.org/learn-about ... management
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsVq5R_F6RA
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Re: Big Donkey - insult

Post by Robyklebt » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:16 pm

You clearly are a very very sick person.
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