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free team regularly breaking rules in short races
how to collect racepoints by breaking rules in short races...a short overview of some of the latest short-race-results
Criterium de Barentin
Km: 22, Steigung: 5
Alexander Flaschenträger (free team) attackiert
Dummy 1370 (Auto-Bot 3) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1374 (Auto-Bot 4) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1375 (Auto-Bot 4) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1379 (Auto-Bot 5) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Benjamin Bachtel (free team) attackiert
Inge Klostergaard (free team) attackiert
Criterium de Nimes
Km: 5, Steigung: 0
Frederick Reinbrant (chatjadore) attackiert
Dummy 1390 (Auto-Bot 3) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Benjamin Bachtel (free team) geht mit
Dummy 1395 (Auto-Bot 4) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Felix Schümann (chatjadore) attackiert
Inge Klostergaard (free team) geht mit
Georges Valken (chatjadore) geht mit
Alexander Flaschenträger (free team) geht mit
Saskia Kuhn (free team) geht mit
GP Parisien 5:00
Km: 1, Steigung: 0
Felix Schümann (chatjadore) attackiert
Inge Klostergaard (free team) geht mit
Frederick Reinbrant (chatjadore) attackiert
Benjamin Bachtel (free team) geht mit
Alexander Flaschenträger (free team) attackiert
Saskia Kuhn (free team) attackiert
Bordeaux-Lochats 5:00
Km: 1, Steigung: 0
Saskia Kuhn (free team) attackiert
Inge Klostergaard (free team) attackiert
Benjamin Bachtel (free team) attackiert
Alexander Flaschenträger (free team) attackiert
Dummy 1496 (Auto-Bot 1) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1500 (Auto-Bot 2) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1505 (Auto-Bot 3) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1509 (Auto-Bot 4) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1512 (Auto-Bot 5) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Criterium de Nimes 6:00
Km: 22, Steigung: 1
Georges Valken (chatjadore) attackiert
Dummy 1520 (Auto-Bot 2) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1517 (Auto-Bot 1) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Alexander Flaschenträger (free team) geht mit
Felix Schümann (chatjadore) geht mit
Inge Klostergaard (free team) geht mit
Dummy 1521 (Auto-Bot 2) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1525 (Auto-Bot 3) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Frederick Reinbrant (chatjadore) attackiert
Benjamin Bachtel (free team) geht mit
Carcassone - Lagrasse
Km: 1, Steigung: 1
Saskia Kuhn (free team) attackiert
Inge Klostergaard (free team) attackiert
Benjamin Bachtel (free team) attackiert
Dummy 1568 (Auto-Bot 1) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1569 (Auto-Bot 1) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1577 (Auto-Bot 3) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1581 (Auto-Bot 4) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Alexander Flaschenträger (free team) attackiert
Criterium de Barentin
Km: 22, Steigung: 5
Alexander Flaschenträger (free team) attackiert
Dummy 1370 (Auto-Bot 3) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1374 (Auto-Bot 4) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1375 (Auto-Bot 4) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1379 (Auto-Bot 5) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Benjamin Bachtel (free team) attackiert
Inge Klostergaard (free team) attackiert
Criterium de Nimes
Km: 5, Steigung: 0
Frederick Reinbrant (chatjadore) attackiert
Dummy 1390 (Auto-Bot 3) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Benjamin Bachtel (free team) geht mit
Dummy 1395 (Auto-Bot 4) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Felix Schümann (chatjadore) attackiert
Inge Klostergaard (free team) geht mit
Georges Valken (chatjadore) geht mit
Alexander Flaschenträger (free team) geht mit
Saskia Kuhn (free team) geht mit
GP Parisien 5:00
Km: 1, Steigung: 0
Felix Schümann (chatjadore) attackiert
Inge Klostergaard (free team) geht mit
Frederick Reinbrant (chatjadore) attackiert
Benjamin Bachtel (free team) geht mit
Alexander Flaschenträger (free team) attackiert
Saskia Kuhn (free team) attackiert
Bordeaux-Lochats 5:00
Km: 1, Steigung: 0
Saskia Kuhn (free team) attackiert
Inge Klostergaard (free team) attackiert
Benjamin Bachtel (free team) attackiert
Alexander Flaschenträger (free team) attackiert
Dummy 1496 (Auto-Bot 1) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1500 (Auto-Bot 2) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1505 (Auto-Bot 3) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1509 (Auto-Bot 4) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1512 (Auto-Bot 5) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Criterium de Nimes 6:00
Km: 22, Steigung: 1
Georges Valken (chatjadore) attackiert
Dummy 1520 (Auto-Bot 2) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1517 (Auto-Bot 1) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Alexander Flaschenträger (free team) geht mit
Felix Schümann (chatjadore) geht mit
Inge Klostergaard (free team) geht mit
Dummy 1521 (Auto-Bot 2) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1525 (Auto-Bot 3) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Frederick Reinbrant (chatjadore) attackiert
Benjamin Bachtel (free team) geht mit
Carcassone - Lagrasse
Km: 1, Steigung: 1
Saskia Kuhn (free team) attackiert
Inge Klostergaard (free team) attackiert
Benjamin Bachtel (free team) attackiert
Dummy 1568 (Auto-Bot 1) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1569 (Auto-Bot 1) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1577 (Auto-Bot 3) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Dummy 1581 (Auto-Bot 4) schafft es nicht mitzugehen
Alexander Flaschenträger (free team) attackiert
"I'm an old-school sprinter. I can't climb a mountain but if I am in front with 200 metres to go then there's nobody who can beat me.” Mark Cavendish, at the 2007 Eneco Tour
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I have banned the team .
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Re: free team regularly breaking rules in short races
wow leso, you just jump with it because franco says it??
3 of those 6 team attacks were done by chatjadore and not by me! moreover i havent won one single of those short races because i dont even care for race points at the moment!
i hope my team gets unbanned asap
and if you really want to bann every team who ever did a teamattack in a short race - good luck..
3 of those 6 team attacks were done by chatjadore and not by me! moreover i havent won one single of those short races because i dont even care for race points at the moment!
i hope my team gets unbanned asap
and if you really want to bann every team who ever did a teamattack in a short race - good luck..
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what a disgusting person...not even one sentence like "yeah, sorry i did the attacks"...
sure you're right...chat also had three of them...but with your following + attacking at these kms, you also "teamattacked" out of the peloton
sure you're right...chat also had three of them...but with your following + attacking at these kms, you also "teamattacked" out of the peloton
"I'm an old-school sprinter. I can't climb a mountain but if I am in front with 200 metres to go then there's nobody who can beat me.” Mark Cavendish, at the 2007 Eneco Tour
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but i didnt win a race because i didnt even want to win them, so what is the point of those attacks in your eyes?
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thanks taka! hopefully buh or leso will get online before my 23h race today but i am pretty sure they wont.. gotta love it
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Well, sure PTT is a big idiot, but a ban because of short race looks totally senseless. He isn't the first, he won't be the last, it is shitty move from him but there is more important things to chase PTT like a paparazzi at 5 o'clock of the morning during short race IMO. Short race are training/racepoints fight, a warning to prevent team attack during real race is far enough.
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It is long time that I care about the rules in the short races, I said that there is almost the far west as anyone does what he wants. They need also an adaptation
That said I repeat the same two things I said in the other post where there was a succesful team attack in a short race:
1) Punition: For breaking fair play rules in short races remove both some race points. At most a little fine.
2) Reforming the Short Race system. Now it is just a big mess. Using it to test things was a little step to improve it or at least to make people trying it.
That said there are some things to be adjusted.
That said I repeat the same two things I said in the other post where there was a succesful team attack in a short race:
1) Punition: For breaking fair play rules in short races remove both some race points. At most a little fine.
2) Reforming the Short Race system. Now it is just a big mess. Using it to test things was a little step to improve it or at least to make people trying it.
That said there are some things to be adjusted.
Re: free team regularly breaking rules in short races
Just remove all race points since he tried several times, bye nights of work .
Re: free team regularly breaking rules in short races
maybe he has you locked directly, because you've already done enough violations.ProTour-Team wrote:wow leso, you just jump with it because franco says it??
3 of those 6 team attacks were done by chatjadore and not by me! moreover i havent won one single of those short races because i dont even care for race points at the moment!
i hope my team gets unbanned asap
and if you really want to bann every team who ever did a teamattack in a short race - good luck..
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"maybe"?? of course he did and thats just bad.. without checking anything or any questions or announcement.. and now of course he will remain offline and my team banned..Hunsrueck wrote:maybe he has you locked directly, because you've already done enough violations.
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we call it the law of the admins
and something like "insightful" you still have not you acquired, sometimes help
and something like "insightful" you still have not you acquired, sometimes help
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sure i made teamattacks in short races.. but in those races i didnt even go for the race points, maybe consider that...
nobody could honestly believe that this would be an accurate reason to bann me without saying anything before! even if i would have won reason points with it, thats no way a reason to bann anybody..
as i ride a lot of short races i see enough team attacks but sure enough nobody ever cared about it or even got reported, guess why..
nobody could honestly believe that this would be an accurate reason to bann me without saying anything before! even if i would have won reason points with it, thats no way a reason to bann anybody..
as i ride a lot of short races i see enough team attacks but sure enough nobody ever cared about it or even got reported, guess why..
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and just a little site note: half of the listed teamattacks by me, other half from another team. i get banned immidiatly whereas leso doesnt even care for the other team
not that i wonder about it, but maybe a little reminder for "fairplaycomitee"...
not that i wonder about it, but maybe a little reminder for "fairplaycomitee"...
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The FPK is judging both cases.ProTour-Team wrote: not that i wonder about it, but maybe a little reminder for "fairplaycomitee"...
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Just a thought, Al Capone in the end went to prison for tax evasionProTour-Team wrote:and just a little site note: half of the listed teamattacks by me, other half from another team. i get banned immidiatly whereas leso doesnt even care for the other team
not that i wonder about it, but maybe a little reminder for "fairplaycomitee"...
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Also Berlusconi!Alkworld wrote:Just a thought, Al Capone in the end went to prison for tax evasionProTour-Team wrote:and just a little site note: half of the listed teamattacks by me, other half from another team. i get banned immidiatly whereas leso doesnt even care for the other team
not that i wonder about it, but maybe a little reminder for "fairplaycomitee"...
Although he didn't go to prison actually, just social service.
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I stay to my decision,but if the FPC is against the ban, he will take it back.
team attacks from an old team in a short race are for me as bad or maybe worst than in normal races.
short races are not only for race points but for new teams too.
team attacks from an old team in a short race are for me as bad or maybe worst than in normal races.
short races are not only for race points but for new teams too.
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as luques already said he doesnt really care about short races and huns expects my "background" to be the cause of my bann aswell, i hope this gets done fast..lesossies wrote:I stay to my decision,but if the FPC is against the ban, he will take it back.
team attacks in a race where i am the only team and cant win any money but just want to see some things like energy lose and time differnce should be even worse than in a normal race where you can acctually win something??lesossies wrote:team attacks from an old team in a short race are for me as bad or maybe worst than in normal races.
i dont think you checked my short races.. in a short race with other teams where i change the race with my teamattacks i would agree, that those were bad and i deserve a fine. but alone in a race which i dont even win to get the race point but just test some things? i still dont see my mistake. arent short races suppost to test things in them? and if there are no other teams, why shouldnt you be allowed to do whatever you want even if you win the race point as you would have won it against the bots anyway?
totally agree there, but as already mentioned in those races there were no other teams!lesossies wrote:short races are not only for race points but for new teams too.
i can kind of understand your overreaction because i am PTT and i broke a rule, but with those informations you werent even looking for i absolutly see no reason to bann me.
if you think another fine is needed besides those days i wasnt able to ride a race because i was banned i will have to live with it.
i just hope you stay realistic as you would need to fine every experienced team the way you will fine me and already did with my bann for teamattacks in short races..
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Re: free team regularly breaking rules in short races
Not sure a newbie will watch PTT short race in spectator chat but well. I often made short race with him, and I can't remember one time he made a team attack, always 2 + 2. After sure with chatjadore it was a teamattack but both guys are brainless in this case. But when he is alone against who he isn't fairplay ? Bots ? Where is the advantage for PTT about these team attacks ? Where is the sense of them ? Who know if he continue his tempo or stop the next kilometer ?
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Actually I said that I careProTour-Team wrote:as luques already said he doesnt really care about short races and huns expects my "background" to be the cause of my bann aswell, i hope this gets done fast..lesossies wrote:I stay to my decision,but if the FPC is against the ban, he will take it back.
But that the punition for me should be at most a fine, the best imo is still giving some race points of penalty.
But well, we are taking a decision, guess in this weekend you will already know the answer.
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still i dont see the problem with testing whatever you want in a short race in which you are one your own
sure you will punish me because i am ptt as you already did and will do again, but i just dont see your point with it.. please enlighten me leso/fpk
you dont harm anybody as there is nobody else and you dont win anything with your teamattack as you would beat the bots without too..
instead of banning me again and taking me out of the 22h Tour De France, funny coincidence the one leso wants to ride, maybe say something about it.. now you banned me a second time for the same thing you already banned me for without saying anything and unbanned me in between..
sure you will punish me because i am ptt as you already did and will do again, but i just dont see your point with it.. please enlighten me leso/fpk
you dont harm anybody as there is nobody else and you dont win anything with your teamattack as you would beat the bots without too..
instead of banning me again and taking me out of the 22h Tour De France, funny coincidence the one leso wants to ride, maybe say something about it.. now you banned me a second time for the same thing you already banned me for without saying anything and unbanned me in between..
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I Know that PTT didnt Do the best things, but i rode some short races with him, wehre he was fair, he never dir a Team attqck when i was in the race
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yeah leso, you are so great with all those rights you have... instead of answering i can see this : lesossies(Admin): I go out of this tour and take free team with
you are really a supercool dude
you are really a supercool dude
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