React Version - Statistics

[Schnuggeritos]

Found an issue with the split stats.

The national championships are included in this statistic, so I have just increased my average number of opponents to 21,5. I don't think that's the way it's supposed to be.

[Gipfelstuermer]

3) Placement!!!!! HOw am I to know where I ended up in March 2013 otherwise?

Available in v1.15.0

Mentioned it a long time ago, but would be really nice to have a less abrupt ending, the page ends right after the end of that box/tab whatever with the riders in.

True, there are some pages "Home", "Statistics", "Chat", were a little border on bottom of the page would be nice. I always think I am missing something down there.

Tried new page endings with some promotion for the Forum.

[Robyklebt]

Much nicer!
No just need to make the box big enough for 20 riders!

Another thing.
Statistics: Maybe after all better to separate current points and eternal points again? With 200 riders loaded at first, it only shows us the 200 riders with most eternal points, so we might miss some riders high up in the current ranking, because they are still young and not in the eternal top 200 yet. Right now in winter unlikely to be very high up, but towards the end of the season, eternal ranking full of pointy guys, a new guy with a good October, let's say number 5, might not be in the top 200 eternal points.

And we used to have the value there too, was always nice to see who was the most valuable rider, if you split it, that could go in somewhere again! (Salary maybe too, not sure if that was there, somehow don't think, but why not, who's the most costly rider interesting too)

[cataracs]

And we used to have the value there too, was always nice to see who was the most valuable rider, if you split it, that could go in somewhere again! (Salary maybe too, not sure if that was there, somehow don't think, but why not, who's the most costly rider interesting too)

Was gonna ask for this aswell. It'd be cool to get that (since it's the only ranking that I might be in the top 3)

[Laugenspitze]

I would like to have a statistic in the Team- (rider)- stats that shows how many money a rider gained for my team. And may be how many money a rider won overall in his career?
This could be shown in the overall statistics too.

[Alkworld]

I would like to have a statistic in the Team- (rider)- stats that shows how many money a rider gained for my team. And may be how many money a rider won overall in his career?
This could be shown in the overall statistics too.

The data for that is not collected. Theoretically it can be done in the future, but it's kind of a long way to go.

[Robyklebt]

What happened to D8?

[flockmastoR]

What happened to D8?

Disappeared, also noticed it when I checked the NC for their jerseys, they were hard to find, as some in Div 8 are NCs

[Alkworld]

What happened to D8?

Disappeared, also noticed it when I checked the NC for their jerseys, they were hard to find, as some in Div 8 are NCs

D8 on the list of divisions disappeared, as loading takes ages and the whole list is loaded at once in that tab. Div 8 teams are still available in "Teams" after loading all and filtering for 8

[Robyklebt]

Stats and team as well:
Now the overview is gone completely? The one that was the starting thing at first?
Or am I too dumb to find it?

Edit, too dumb to find it on mobile, probably needed to scroll left... on PC no problem, now will chech the mobile once more.... sorry, ignore the post.

[Bear]

I miss an option to check the starting skills of riders in an easy way. Either in stats or in developement. Is there anything planned?

[Alkworld]

I miss an option to check the starting skills of riders in an easy way. Either in stats or in developement. Is there anything planned?

I have an idea what to do there, but so many things have higher priority ...

[Robyklebt]

I'm still generally somehow unhappy with the stat pages.... will try to go through it again in the not toooo far future.

For the moment just want to mention that the filtering in general is a bit of a pain, not only on stats, but there too, so fits here.

[Bear]

Just an idea for the future. Rider comparison. Stats directly next to each other. Would be a nice feature imo. But not important for now.

[Schnuggeritos]

After we finished the latest GT I checked the section 'Race Series'. TdF is not part of (our) World Tour 2023.

[Gipfelstuermer]

After we finished the latest GT I checked the section 'Race Series'. TdF is not part of (our) World Tour 2023.

Updated now

[Robyklebt]

It's still ugly... looking at stats used to be fun, now it's a bit of torture. Plus there's lots of stuff that you can't find.

But not here because of that:

Hall of Fame: Didier Chatelain, Vuelta winner 2010 missing.Was checking Spycher, for absolutely mysterious reasons Schappy praised that useless climber (and his even more useless manager), so wanted to see if he was the guy who won the Vuelta for ZL. Hm, ZL never won the Vuelta? But I remember he did, I was even the sitter for a day or 2! .

Research: Forum, FLs press center, easy to find, how nice. Chatelain was the Vuelta winner. 2010
Vuelta history: A pain in the ass to find stuff...: Didier Chatelain won one of 6 editions there too.

Now of course it's not wrong to try to cancel Zauberlehrlinge from c4d history, but if Chatelain is missing, others might have suffered the same fate?

[Schnuggeritos]

Well, last post on October so I think it's time to reactivate this old thread

How about a sub-tab in the Hall of Fame category for riders with multiple Cat 4+ (or maybe only GT?) stage wins? No differentiation per tour necessary, just the total amount of wins and the number of ridden stages taken part.

Definitely not important but maybe some of you are interested in stuff like this.

[flockmastoR]

Well, last post on October so I think it's time to reactivate this old thread

How about a sub-tab in the Hall of Fame category for riders with multiple Cat 4+ (or maybe only GT?) stage wins? No differentiation per tour necessary, just the total amount of wins and the number of ridden stages taken part.

Definitely not important but maybe some of you are interested in stuff like this.

Statistics -> Split Stats -> Riders

I mean it doesn't include the number of such races but the number of wins/ category can be sorted, just use a proper time span.

PS: it might not be complete, just includes riders of the new era

[Schnuggeritos]

Oh... Stupid me using the phone and did not realize there was the button to switch from team to riders 🫣

For now it's good but I'd like this kind of hall of fame, too

[Schartner Bombe]

Info for the feature "Ex-Riders".
if I klik "palmares" can see all etc. - if I klik another button can see all too, but if I want to go back to "palmares" this button is frozen.

[Bear]

I dont know which thread is the best... went for this one...

Would it be possible to put in the Team name in the Palmares entry again? I always liked to see which team won something with the selected rider.

[olmania]

Is there a way I'm missing to see the numbers of races ridden by a team or a rider in the split stats ?

If it's not existing, it would be an interesting thing to add; with maybe a ratio like it's already done for category/opponents in the race win tab f.e (and other ratio stats in other tabs) ?

That could make the split stats even more interesting, especially for teams who don't race everyday to compare their performance to other teams ? And it would give a different/additionnal perspective of which teams/riders perform well.
If that's not too hard to implement and ok to do it even if not a priority ofc !

[Robyklebt]

No idea what Alk is working on right now, but.... if there's nothing super fascinating, pressing he's doing... how about looking at the stat pages a bit?

Mostly graphic stuff. Ok, I remember Alk once saying he wasn't that great/interested/talented/into (hope got it more or less right) graphics, so if it's too frustrating for him, find a volunteer! (although the nonscrolling container in team still makes me incredibly happy, so he seems to be talented after all)

But:

Teams: Split it up again. Having this to scroll sideways is annoying.. and takes a lot of fun away from it. For me at least. Or make it 3 tabs, one like now, then one until the skills, one the palmares... So if somebody likes having all in one, to compare something, we all have our favorite way to look at it.
I realize you can do it with edit column, but... easier without that?

Riders: Here as well I would split it again. Current points, eternal points. Right now the top 200 in eternal points are loaded, what if I want to see the best 200, 1000 in current points? Somehow not possible.

Split stats: Stuck on 25, you have to change manually, make it automatic. Also, the drop down menu to change it is... special. click, see nothing, scroll down, you see 2 years. Could be done better. Also we can choose up to 2017, but if you choose 2017 nothing actually happens, at least not for me.

There's more in stats, but I try to make it short.

Not in stats, but calendar, races etc. click on profile, history. It's horrible to look at the history, the 2 containers on top are too small. You only see 3 entries at once, make that bigger. Such a nice feature in theory, in practice it's much less so, since you'd want to see more. The third container at the bottom is fine, nice, perfect.

Also not completely happy with the filter, in some places ok ok, in others something doesn't fit really. Drop down maybe better, or the cool clicking you have in the history (that I only discovered today).

Oh, almost forgot, stats, riders, sorting, for some reason I can't sort by family name. Ever thought of introducing that great feature there (and in many many other places, maybe even as standard in some of them, like team, inscription page..!!!!!) I mean it is possible, after all in inscription you can do it "manually" after inscribing, the capability is there. Wouldn't it be much nicer to have it as standard in many places, and optional in others, like here. It's not like sorting by first name is actually a thing in most of the world... just c4f. Trendsetters ok, great, but maybe not on this one? A nice conservative sorting by family name seems much more appropriate.

PS. Toxic comments by Gipfel, like about me "wanting to destroy the game" aren't welcome.

[Alkworld]

No idea what Alk is working on right now, but.... if there's nothing super fascinating, pressing he's doing... how about looking at the stat pages a bit?

Mostly nothing currently due to lack of time.

Mostly graphic stuff. Ok, I remember Alk once saying he wasn't that great/interested/talented/into (hope got it more or less right) graphics, so if it's too frustrating for him, find a volunteer! (although the nonscrolling container in team still makes me incredibly happy, so he seems to be talented after all)

That unfortunately is still correct, still no clue, still haven't found anybody who can support us. The three potential volunteers we had all found out that they also don't have enough time to get deeply into C4F development.

Teams: Split it up again. Having this to scroll sideways is annoying.. and takes a lot of fun away from it. For me at least. Or make it 3 tabs, one like now, then one until the skills, one the palmares... So if somebody likes having all in one, to compare something, we all have our favorite way to look at it.
I realize you can do it with edit column, but... easier without that?

In a perfect C4F world, this would be a user setting and everybody could have it his / her preferred way. But as that is not a high prio topic, it's far from being in focus.

Riders: Here as well I would split it again. Current points, eternal points. Right now the top 200 in eternal points are loaded, what if I want to see the best 200, 1000 in current points? Somehow not possible.

What's missing here is a general improvement to make the whole loading more flexible, e.g. to load more details with certain criteria, e.g. the next page sorted by something else than points. But as that is not a high prio topic, it's far from being in focus.

Split stats: Stuck on 25, you have to change manually, make it automatic. Also, the drop down menu to change it is... special. click, see nothing, scroll down, you see 2 years. Could be done better. Also we can choose up to 2017, but if you choose 2017 nothing actually happens, at least not for me.

That's one I'll change with the next version hopefully. The layout issue which makes it barely readable I tried to solve once, but didn't manage to.

There's more in stats, but I try to make it short.
Not in stats, but calendar, races etc. click on profile, history. It's horrible to look at the history, the 2 containers on top are too small. You only see 3 entries at once, make that bigger. Such a nice feature in theory, in practice it's much less so, since you'd want to see more. The third container at the bottom is fine, nice, perfect.

That's one that should be easy to change. Will try to include it.

Also not completely happy with the filter, in some places ok ok, in others something doesn't fit really. Drop down maybe better, or the cool clicking you have in the history (that I only discovered today).

I was experimenting once with predefined filters (practically what we have in history as buttons) in this generic tables (almost all tables in the game is practically one piece of code), but didn't work that time. That could help, but there's also the prio argument

Oh, almost forgot, stats, riders, sorting, for some reason I can't sort by family name. Ever thought of introducing that great feature there (and in many many other places, maybe even as standard in some of them, like team, inscription page..!!!!!) I mean it is possible, after all in inscription you can do it "manually" after inscribing, the capability is there. Wouldn't it be much nicer to have it as standard in many places, and optional in others, like here. It's not like sorting by first name is actually a thing in most of the world... just c4f. Trendsetters ok, great, but maybe not on this one? A nice conservative sorting by family name seems much more appropriate.

Where it's implemented, we're not using the generic table code. Putting it in the generic table code is probably possible, but I didn't into it in detail.