June 2018

[Coroncina2]

kk,i know u like to play the old style...but not that sure if u like to play this game just you the old managers,so need to think for all managers not just for the old ones
cheers

I was ironic.
I tried to propose many new ideas. all rejected. if you have time read a bit 'on the forum. needless to waste time with those who don't listen you..

[Robyklebt]

So I would say, Occitanie out.
Dauphine 14-18-20-23
Tour de Suisse 9-15-21-24
Slovenia 10 - 19 - 22
Adriatica 10-15-18-22
Savoie 12 - 19 - 23 (really not sure about this)

So French guys will have Dauphiné one hour earlier, still having the midnight edition for Suisse. 22h will have all the month covered, Luxembourg - Slovenia and Adriatica.

Suisse has the morning edition, considered there were more requests than Dauphiné. Savoie introduced in parallel with Adriatica.

I guess for TdF times we can make a poll later, not against 22h anyway, giving Vuelta maybe the 24h spot (or 23 again).

Let's see if someone is happy

Someone happy? Probably you'll find someone. But unhappy people here as well. In my case unhappiness is chronic.

Dauphiné-TdS Donks ok.
Slovenia 3... not fully convinced, I would have preferred 2+2 including Occitanie, just one edition more, but we ride one more real race. While I'm not as fanatic about riding all real races as somebody else here, I agree in principle that riding as many as possible sounds nice. Here to me 4 parallel editions to the 4 TdS editions seemed doable, but won't start a revolution over it. Slovenia times though good. If all are ok with this, ok for me too.
Then SAvoie... I'm really not a big fun of adding a 2.2 race when we leave out x more important ones. Just because it's "nice", mountainous doesn't really need to be ridden. But ok, if it already has been designed... bah. 3 editions, seems one too many too really, but ok, again, won't start a revolution over it, just think it's a bit unfortunate to have that in. We don't always need parallel stuff, but when there is, 2.1. stuff, but not even there all, having it good. Of course cat 1 for this. (How is the money thing coming?)

[cataracs]

Races aren't gonna be added ingame anytime soon?

[Hunsrueck]

So I would say, Occitanie out.
Dauphine 14-18-20-23
Tour de Suisse 9-15-21-24
Slovenia 10 - 19 - 22
Adriatica 10-15-18-22
Savoie 12 - 19 - 23 (really not sure about this)

So French guys will have Dauphiné one hour earlier, still having the midnight edition for Suisse. 22h will have all the month covered, Luxembourg - Slovenia and Adriatica.

Suisse has the morning edition, considered there were more requests than Dauphiné. Savoie introduced in parallel with Adriatica.

I guess for TdF times we can make a poll later, not against 22h anyway, giving Vuelta maybe the 24h spot (or 23 again).

Let's see if someone is happy

Would it always be possible to have a race at 20 or 21 o'clock?
I think there are the most active users at the start.
Especially at tours.

no little Tour start at 20 or 21 o´clock

[Gipfelstuermer]

Hey,

Don't want to be too perfectionist, but I took a look at Dauphine and found a few inaccuracies, esp. these two:

- Stage 4, Lans-en-Vercors, should be somehting lik 7-10-6-5-8 instead of 8-7-7-7-7 according to https://www.criterium-du-dauphine.fr/en/stage-4
- Stage 6, La Rosiere, should be something like 5-5-5-5-5-4-3-7-9-9-6-9-9-4-4-5-5-5 instead of 4-6-5-4-4-4-8-9-9-6-8-9-3-5-5-6-6 according to https://www.criterium-du-dauphine.fr/en/stage-6

Makes a bit of a difference for these two stages, but perhaps you also want to check other stages - just in case you haven't taken a look at the Dauphine website yet, CC. Sorry if this is too precise, I am actually very happy about your designing-help, CC.

[CircleCycle]

No, I am fine if someone is checking everything.
I took the data from la-flamme rouge site. e.g. https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/viewtrack/164820

checked now, and there is now also some profile offered for the Lans-en-Vercors, which I am pretty sure, wasn't there when I drawed it. https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/viewtrack/65236
Feel free to change it, I don't have any time now.

[Gipfelstuermer]

Yes, that flamme rouge website is great for getting gpx-data. Just sometimes need to check details with the organizer. Had to learn that the hard way with Giro (E.g. they changed a complete mountain 2 weeks before the start)

And as Dauphine is kind of important, I thought take a look. Will change those two stages

[CircleCycle]

yes, yes, do what you want
I am not 100% sure, but I did have a look at official website, and it is possible that there wasn't detailled information about the climbs, so I took what I found on either la flamme rouge or salite.ch. And their information is obivously different to that on official website. As I have no clue whatsoever I can't say which is the more precise......

[Pokemon Club]

The official website have always the more precise information.
You need to check the roadmap. Check if there is not some wrong road use by LFR. Sometimes organisation can change the road late.
Check the last km too, when you upload the gpx in C4F the last km is often cut.

[Pokemon Club]

It is already 28th, how will we have the missing profile online ? Or at least a description of them ?

[luques]

Updated

[Pokemon Club]

So you move Route du Sud/Occitanie for Slovenia
And that Savoie stuff that won't have more than 5 Conti Pro (the 5 frenchs I guess) is really needed ?

[Pokemon Club]

Anyway without profile seems complicate to put form

[Robyklebt]

Happy trolling eh?
New PDF proposal online yesterday, the races mentioned by Luques in a post, which didn't have enough opposition to be canned, but with different times, not mentioned before.
Logic to give people another 24h to comment, before putting it online. If those 24 hours make it impossible for someone to put in the form, this someone should learn to use Google and find the real races, read the real profiles, or look at the profiles posted in this thread to have an idea where to put the form.
Basic stuff. Too hard for you?

[kielgy]

At what time is it possible to see the profiles of the other races in June to set Form?

[Pokemon Club]

So all should have a look on his own ? If you and luques are unable to do some simple copy/paste of website because for X reason you can't draw C4F race in time, you aren't really useful.

[Robyklebt]

Yes, yes, sadly I'm not really useful. I'll even go further and claim to be useless! Not everybody is as cool as you, you know. Coolest kid on the block!
As for Luques, I'll let him comment on his usefulness himself.

Anyway, thanks for your series of useful messages

[Robyklebt]

At what time is it possible to see the profiles of the other races in June to set Form?

Slovenia and Adriatica Ionica aren't designed yet. Unlikely they will be before the end of the month.
Savoie done, but I refuse to put it online before the more important stuff.
Real one day races possibly a few later tonight, but only possibly.

[kielgy]

ok, Thank u

[Robyklebt]

Aargau done

[luques]

I like to be utterly useless. As being useful doesn't give you a prize

[Pokemon Club]

I like to be utterly useless. As being useful doesn't give you a prize

yeah even not able to put some news in 2 months

[Robyklebt]

What news were necessary or would you have liked to have? No news in itself is a problem how?
The only thing I can think of is:

"Pokemon wins the troll of the year award"

But.... I think everybody realizes that without the news as well. And even though your advantage is really insurmountable, the year is not over, so seems a bit premature. So wait til the end of the year for this news-item? Even if I have to admit that I'm impressed with your commitment to this cause. Despite being assured of the win, you keep giving it all to increase your advantage. It's like Chris Froome being left alone in the TdF after 10 stages, but still trying to beat the climbing records on every stage, despite riding alone. Difference is that if Froome gets sick and has to give up, he doesn't win. If you get sick (heaven beware, stay healthy my idol!) can't post or play the rest of the year, you still win the prize.

So, if it's this piece of news you've been missing, don't think it's necessary or appropriate right now(in May). End of Dec, why not? What other news were needed for the good of the game? To increase Luques' usefulness, you'll have to be a bit more specific than "no news" I think, even though I know your fear of giving specific answers to any questions.

[luques]

Too much off topic btw. Keep the post for the June discussion, maybe some others will want to contribute.

I go back doing useless things

[Pokemon Club]

Trolling if you want, but discover Slovenia and Adriatica maybe the last day if by miracle you feel you are able to draw it isn't a good thing.