Giro 2014

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Re: Giro 2014

Post by Rockstar Inc » Thu May 01, 2014 1:05 am

"I'm an old-school sprinter. I can't climb a mountain but if I am in front with 200 metres to go then there's nobody who can beat me.” Mark Cavendish, at the 2007 Eneco Tour

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Re: Giro 2014

Post by Coroncina2 » Thu May 01, 2014 2:32 am

I hope you will change point for sprint jeresy and mountain one.
Here there is what I find on web:

http://www.cicloweb.it/articolo/2014/04 ... no-radical

;)

May be you will wait for the official reglement. But this could help you to have an idea of the changement.
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Re: Giro 2014

Post by luques » Thu May 01, 2014 10:56 am

Ehm just write them down:

KOM:

HC (9 ciclisti a punti): 40, 28, 21, 15 10, 7, 4, 2, 1.
1st cat (8 ciclisti a punti): 32, 20, 14, 10, 7, 4, 2, 1.
2nd cat (6 ciclisti a punti): 14, 9, 6, 4, 2, 1.
3rd cat (4 ciclisti a punti): 7, 4, 2, 1.
4th cat (3 ciclisti a punti): 3, 2, 1.

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Sprint Jersey, also the IS points change for the different stage but don't know if this is possible to do.

FLAT: 50, 40, 34, 28, 25, 22, 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. (IS: 20, 16, 12, 9, 7, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1).
Mid-Mountain: 25, 22, 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. (IS: 10, 6, 3, 2, 1).
Mountain: 15, 12, 9, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. (IS: 8, 4, 1).

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Boni:

Stage: 10'', 6'', 4''
IS: 3'', 2'', 1''

So you can keep the actual one

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Re: Giro 2014

Post by lesossies » Wed May 07, 2014 9:58 pm

ITT same sprint points like mountain races.
I´ll put all online tonight.

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Re: Giro 2014

Post by lesossies » Thu May 08, 2014 9:51 am

Giro adapted :

Mountain:
HC (9 ciclisti a punti): 40, 28, 21, 15 10, 7, 4, 2, 1.
1st cat (8 ciclisti a punti): 32, 20, 14, 10, 7, 4, 2, 1.
2nd cat (6 ciclisti a punti): 14, 9, 6, 4, 2, 1.
3rd cat (4 ciclisti a punti): 7, 4, 2, 1.
4th cat (3 ciclisti a punti): 3, 2, 1.
Money = points * 500

Sprint:
FLAT: 50, 40, 34, 28, 25, 22, 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Mid-Mountain: 25, 22, 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Mountain: 15, 12, 9, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Intermediate Sprint: 10, 6, 3, 2, 1 for all stages
Stage Money : normal C4F-system
IS Money : points *1000

Time Boni:

Stage: 10'', 6'', 4''
IS: 3'', 2'', 1''

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Re: Giro 2014

Post by luques » Thu May 08, 2014 10:43 am

Thanks Leso for the work ;)

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Re: Giro 2014

Post by Robyklebt » Thu May 15, 2014 4:31 pm

When can we get a maglia rosa?
And Creek is rather unhappy about his that non existing jersey he has to wear.
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
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Re: Giro 2014

Post by Pokemon Club » Fri May 23, 2014 11:18 am

Hum my own opinion, but mintact for stage 14, stage 16 and stage 20 is too short. Well for tomorrow looks to late to change that.
But stage 16 and 20 both mintact for the last mountain, but I think we can easily put it at the foot of mountains, and why not just put it for the first mountain, people won't die if they stay 2 hours in front of their the race, it is Giro after all.

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Re: Giro 2014

Post by Rockstar Inc » Fri May 23, 2014 1:39 pm

+1

pro "longer min-tact for GT's"...under 100 minute stages are not cool for a GT...
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Re: Giro 2014

Post by luques » Fri May 23, 2014 5:30 pm

Rockstar Inc wrote:+1

pro "longer min-tact for GT's"...under 100 minute stages are not cool for a GT...
I agree, think that this should be a base rule for GTs (and also for other classics).

Personally, I like the long min-tact because it makes me more into the game, but I thought to be the only one, nice to know that there are always some others that like the idea.

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Re: Giro 2014

Post by IDF » Sat May 24, 2014 1:23 pm

Long boring races...
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Re: Giro 2014

Post by Alkworld » Sat May 24, 2014 1:27 pm

IDF wrote:Long boring races...
Just continue not riding them.
Pokemon Club wrote:Hum my own opinion, but mintact for stage 14, stage 16 and stage 20 is too short. Well for tomorrow looks to late to change that.
But stage 16 and 20 both mintact for the last mountain, but I think we can easily put it at the foot of mountains, and why not just put it for the first mountain, people won't die if they stay 2 hours in front of their the race, it is Giro after all.
+1

And by the way, it was ok last year, when I remember nobody complaining about two hours for an important GC stage (stage 19, 2013 = stage 16, 2014).

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Re: Giro 2014

Post by Pokemon Club » Tue May 27, 2014 9:48 am

Thanks leso for totally doesn't care about us

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Re: Giro 2014

Post by lesossies » Tue May 27, 2014 5:01 pm

Pokemon Club wrote:Thanks leso for totally doesn't care about us
I care about but the resonance is not very big.
About 4 teams gave their opininons, it´s not a lot.
I could change the tact for the 20th stage, the last big stage in this giro where big things can happen.

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Re: Giro 2014

Post by Rockstar Inc » Tue May 27, 2014 5:53 pm

4 guys is for the current state of RSF a good resonance :)
"I'm an old-school sprinter. I can't climb a mountain but if I am in front with 200 metres to go then there's nobody who can beat me.” Mark Cavendish, at the 2007 Eneco Tour

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Re: Giro 2014

Post by skull » Tue May 27, 2014 8:30 pm

The races should be as short as possible (time played not distance!)
After all its a game, not a job.
Right now most races are longer than a football game. (basic rule for football-nations: nothing should be longer than 90 Minutes ;))
For the stages mentioned the change-of-tact for the last ascent is perfectly reasonable.
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Re: Giro 2014

Post by Rockstar Inc » Tue May 27, 2014 10:58 pm

boooooooooooooooooooh
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Re: Giro 2014

Post by Cerro Torre RT » Wed May 28, 2014 2:34 am

Well, as I recently bought a license that will enable me to ride the next Giro, I think I may have a voice in here to, even if I just started again. I can only agree with Rockstar. Good decisions need some seconds for thinking. Do we want to concentrate any good action on the last 20 km? Well, me not. Long tries, especially if well-thought, is the real greatness of cylcling.
Does't mean you can't start the Min-Tact right in front of the last climb. If it's Zoncolan, it's alright. But take today's stage (I mean Tuesday's, even if it's a bit late), what would I choose? Right from the start!

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Re: Giro 2014

Post by Pokemon Club » Wed May 28, 2014 11:20 am

Yes yes yes, you have right Skullz, let's do 15 minutes races, better, let's do random races and let's kill why RSF is attractive compare others cycling games.

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