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Re: Catalunya h 22
Libby, ist nicht persönlich, ich mach dich, aber ich finde es das in dieses fall, ide sache anders gelaufen sind...weil ich hatte damals attackiert, die ganze hat mir eine menge zeit gekostet, ich war sogar ein km. off...am end ewurde ich dritte (immerhin kommt in palmares) für 36 sekunde...ohne es hätte ich die GK gewonnen...das war der unterschied, ich habe tempo gemacht für ERSTE PLATZ, nicht für viertes, zwölftes, oder sechzentes
Ich kännte des plan von Pirati, war gegen Skullz gerichtet, weil des erste war in GK, es geht es nicht um freundschaft oder anders,, einfach um erstes platz...Pirati GK fahrer ist mit 8!!! sekunden abstand,und dazwischen sind eine menge weiteres fahrer, aber die andere team in tempo waren sogar hinten Pirati leader, daher ist die massen tempo etwas erstaunlich komish.
es ist schon nicht zu verstehe, warum ein team mit klassiker ein gruppe zieht, statt mit der gleiches fahrer zu attackieren, weil chance um gelb damit wären
das was eigentlich was ich bei TA erreichen wollte, die bergies auf flach isolieren, und dann wegattackieren, das was auch bei euch möglich (in dieses fall, nicht du, aber andere schon)
und ich finde es auch das Lecce hätte es ubersetzen konnen, weil beide sprache kann, was ich fast mtlerweiler bei jedes rennen mache, um die ruhe auch zu bewahren!
Ich kännte des plan von Pirati, war gegen Skullz gerichtet, weil des erste war in GK, es geht es nicht um freundschaft oder anders,, einfach um erstes platz...Pirati GK fahrer ist mit 8!!! sekunden abstand,und dazwischen sind eine menge weiteres fahrer, aber die andere team in tempo waren sogar hinten Pirati leader, daher ist die massen tempo etwas erstaunlich komish.
es ist schon nicht zu verstehe, warum ein team mit klassiker ein gruppe zieht, statt mit der gleiches fahrer zu attackieren, weil chance um gelb damit wären
das was eigentlich was ich bei TA erreichen wollte, die bergies auf flach isolieren, und dann wegattackieren, das was auch bei euch möglich (in dieses fall, nicht du, aber andere schon)
und ich finde es auch das Lecce hätte es ubersetzen konnen, weil beide sprache kann, was ich fast mtlerweiler bei jedes rennen mache, um die ruhe auch zu bewahren!
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Re: Catalunya h 22
Liberty, do not be clever by changing the discourse, with me you can not.Liberty wrote: Fakt ist das der Pirati ziemlich angefressen ist und das zeigt auch seine Bewertung an Lecce obwohl er absolut nichts gemacht hat, keinTempo oder sonstwas.
I have given the -3 to lecce because he did not say anything, and when I asked if he could please speak was taken offline.
Lecce was not a friend, but I did not say he is wrong.
It is you who falsifies the races.
Re: Catalunya h 22
i don't like make all this bla bla bla, but i'm forced. Forced becouse money in the game are all, money are much important than the point so i prefere don't lose money. In this tour i have learned the basical rulez of the game:"don't mind about the others" i never, never, never again will read what the others say me in the chat. And play my game always with don't care about others. Be nice don't give me victories and for what i see, nice players don't win much races.
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Re: Catalunya h 22
Pffff, i am always nice, everybody (except Allagen and Steinz maybe^^) likes me, and i win many races.
sprint victories:
2007: 33 (30 since buying licence in april)
2008: 54
2009: 36
2010: 47
2011: 34
The Fantastic Four: Ewen McBright, Perry Niclas, Aigars Cakls & Frederic Iatiknu
2007: 33 (30 since buying licence in april)
2008: 54
2009: 36
2010: 47
2011: 34
The Fantastic Four: Ewen McBright, Perry Niclas, Aigars Cakls & Frederic Iatiknu
Re: Catalunya h 22
yes you win 40 - 50 races every year this team win 2 - 3 races every tour
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Re: Catalunya h 22
Cool,so if i have a reallife, if i have to work, i'll get a -3? Thanks,really,great...pirati wrote:Liberty, do not be clever by changing the discourse, with me you can not.Liberty wrote: Fakt ist das der Pirati ziemlich angefressen ist und das zeigt auch seine Bewertung an Lecce obwohl er absolut nichts gemacht hat, keinTempo oder sonstwas.
I have given the -3 to lecce because he did not say anything, and when I asked if he could please speak was taken offline.
Lecce was not a friend, but I did not say he is wrong.
It is you who falsifies the races.
The last two days i didn't do that much because i was bored, so i watched tv or played or knows the hell what i did...
BUT, it's my fault,yeah, cool... i don't even know that much about what happened in race...bla bla bla, kein bock mehr, weder auf italienisch noch auf englisch,
kann doch auch nichts dafür,dass ich die sprache kann und mal kb auf ein rennen habe.... echt mal,sowas affiges noch nie gesehen
Re: Catalunya h 22
@ Roby, ho cercato fino alla fine di credere che la teoria per cui tutti corrono contro tutti per il posto migliore fosse vera. Cioè che tutti tirano per cercare di difendere anche la 16 posizione. Bene, mi sa che questa teoria non corrisponde esattamente al vero. TI spiego, mi piace essere scientifico e portare le prove di quello che dico. Oggi, inaspettatamente ho attaccato al primo km con il mio passista che era 21 in classifica. L'attacco è riuscito ed ho vinto 2 sprint consecutivi. Cosi sono finito alla fine del tour in 13 posizione, ho migliorato bel 8 posizioni!! Bene, nessuno degli 8 corridori che mi precedevano si è preoccupato un secondo di mettersi a tirare per evitare di farmi vincere gli sprint. Gli unici a tirare naturalmente indovina? ok hai capito
Adesso, sempre perchè ho davvero stima di te, riesci a trovarmi un'altra spiegazione per quello che è successo in questo tour??
oppure posso dire scientificamente che qualcuno a truffato?
Adesso, sempre perchè ho davvero stima di te, riesci a trovarmi un'altra spiegazione per quello che è successo in questo tour??
oppure posso dire scientificamente che qualcuno a truffato?
Re: Catalunya h 22
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh kann dem mal einer erklären das ich heute auf etappe gefahren bin.
und dann bitte mal hier löschen. hat nicht mit unfair zu tun
hier mal seine bewertung von heute
Bernstein -3 confermo il voto
Berlin Marks AG -3 confermo il voto
und die beiden haben heute nichtmal im feld tempo gemacht^^ soviel zu diesem pirati
und dann bitte mal hier löschen. hat nicht mit unfair zu tun
hier mal seine bewertung von heute
Bernstein -3 confermo il voto
Berlin Marks AG -3 confermo il voto
und die beiden haben heute nichtmal im feld tempo gemacht^^ soviel zu diesem pirati
Re: Catalunya h 22
Liberty, after this tour, everyone understands how much you wrong! this is the most important thing.
Re: Catalunya h 22
pirati wrote:Liberty, after this tour, everyone understands how much you wrong! this is the most important thing.
werde in der gleichen situation immer wieder fahren.
jeden tag arbeitet er gegen mich und dann habe ich das recht meinen Platz mit letzten kräften zu verteidigen. Eine attacke gegen skullz hatte für mich keinen sinn gerade weil mein team keine kraft mehr hatte um gegen skullz zu fahren.
wenn er das nicht aktzeptieren kann ist es seine sache und hat dennoch hier nichts zu suchen, denn sonst müsste man 90% der rundfahrten hier posten.
am ende einer Etappe werde ich immer wieder fahren, damit kein chaos entsteht und ich verteidige damit mein platz. für platz 12 oder was weiß ich fahre ich dann sicher nicht, aber platz 4 damit kann ich leben.
das er sich heute wieder beschwert wenn ich etappenfavo bin zeigt ja wie sinnlos das ganze hier ist-
Re: Catalunya h 22
Edessa - Korce h:21 Skullz, Libby, Elftal and Montages SG: again togheder...
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Re: Catalunya h 22
and what's the problem?Pirkio wrote:Edessa - Korce h:21 Skullz, Libby, Elftal and Montages SG: again togheder...
"I'm an old-school sprinter. I can't climb a mountain but if I am in front with 200 metres to go then there's nobody who can beat me.” Mark Cavendish, at the 2007 Eneco Tour
Re: Catalunya h 22
Pirkio wrote:Edessa - Korce h:21 Skullz, Libby, Elftal and Montages SG: again togheder...
unfair.
Re: Catalunya h 22
nothing wrong... I played a long at 20 - 22 and was hard to see them togheder.. now they are always.. I just think someting about teamwork but i don't say nothing after i wanna see
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Re: Catalunya h 22
The anger was understandable, but today you rode like the way you didn't like when it was against you. And your votes are leading only to one question: Who is the child here in this discussion?
sprint victories:
2007: 33 (30 since buying licence in april)
2008: 54
2009: 36
2010: 47
2011: 34
The Fantastic Four: Ewen McBright, Perry Niclas, Aigars Cakls & Frederic Iatiknu
2007: 33 (30 since buying licence in april)
2008: 54
2009: 36
2010: 47
2011: 34
The Fantastic Four: Ewen McBright, Perry Niclas, Aigars Cakls & Frederic Iatiknu
Re: Catalunya h 22
heutige bewertung von Pirati.
LibertySeguros -3 this is just the beginning
die bewertung ist mir ja ziemlich egal, aber wenn er das jetzt jedes Rennen so durch zieht, beantrage ich beim komitee eine strafe.
nur soviel zum rennen. ohne jegliche chance auf ein top 10 platz macht er gegen mich persönlich tempo
LibertySeguros -3 this is just the beginning
die bewertung ist mir ja ziemlich egal, aber wenn er das jetzt jedes Rennen so durch zieht, beantrage ich beim komitee eine strafe.
nur soviel zum rennen. ohne jegliche chance auf ein top 10 platz macht er gegen mich persönlich tempo
Re: Catalunya h 22
You're wrong, I have been working against you. I did my race, I defended my chance to return in the first 15 places in the standings. The flight is over 4 km from the finish. I was just unlucky. I play to win, not to do in the babysitter skullz.
I gave -3 because this is the beginning of my run for re always in the top 15 places in the standings. Simple.
I gave -3 because this is the beginning of my run for re always in the top 15 places in the standings. Simple.
Re: Catalunya h 22
What you did was for sure not riding to win.pirati wrote:I play to win, not to do in the babysitter skullz.
sprint victories:
2007: 33 (30 since buying licence in april)
2008: 54
2009: 36
2010: 47
2011: 34
The Fantastic Four: Ewen McBright, Perry Niclas, Aigars Cakls & Frederic Iatiknu
2007: 33 (30 since buying licence in april)
2008: 54
2009: 36
2010: 47
2011: 34
The Fantastic Four: Ewen McBright, Perry Niclas, Aigars Cakls & Frederic Iatiknu
Re: Catalunya h 22
you're the one who did not understand my race!
In fact, the only two teams that have given the votes ....
Team ART pirati 1 nice try, it was hard for the sprinter-teams 28.03.2011
Montages SG pirati 1 very good race 28.03.2011
It's not nice to accuse falsely
In fact, the only two teams that have given the votes ....
Team ART pirati 1 nice try, it was hard for the sprinter-teams 28.03.2011
Montages SG pirati 1 very good race 28.03.2011
It's not nice to accuse falsely
Re: Catalunya h 22
i'm pretty sure no one understand ur race! you had no chance at all. the escape had noch chance, thats why nobody said somethin, your tempo just helped to make the chase last a little bit longer.pirati wrote:you're the one who did not understand my race!
In fact, the only two teams that have given the votes ....
Team ART pirati 1 nice try, it was hard for the sprinter-teams 28.03.2011
Montages SG pirati 1 very good race 28.03.2011
It's not nice to accuse falsely
for me your tempo was ok, makes the race a bit more interessting. but from the point that everyone should ride for his own team, and that what is/was ur problem with libby... u rode for everyone else exepct yourself...senseless kindergarten-style! (like some guy at a marathon, who's just there to make the race faster, but he wont have a chance himself)
Re: Catalunya h 22
da Ciclistas » mar mar 29, 2011 10:33 am
It took 12 hours to find a witness in your favor?
Liby, you're pathetic
It took 12 hours to find a witness in your favor?
Liby, you're pathetic
Re: Catalunya h 22
pirati wrote:You're wrong, I have been working against you. I did my race, I defended my chance to return in the first 15 places in the standings. The flight is over 4 km from the finish. I was just unlucky. I play to win, not to do in the babysitter skullz.
I gave -3 because this is the beginning of my run for re always in the top 15 places in the standings. Simple.
Top 15 would have been possible in the mass sprint. But only if you hadn't worked with your leader in the final 10-20(?) km for a group that was doomed to fail before it has even started.
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ed.Top 15 would have been possible in the mass sprint. But only if you hadn't worked with your leader in the final 10-20(?) km for a group that was doomed to fail before it has even start
excuse luna, I have the right to make time to hope for escape? If the leak can I finish in 10. or the right to do just time for everyone ... Berlin (16 °), Bernstein (12 °), Liberty (4 °)???
because if I do not have the right to defend my possible run for 15th place, then I do not run anymore. Tell me luna....
Re: Catalunya h 22
10-20km from finish (if not earlier) everybody could see that the front group won't be able to finish in front of the peloton. Bringing your captain at that point was nothing but suicide. Because
a) even he wasn't be able to keep the gap. That was clear. Your hope was unfounded.
b) with that he wasn't able anymore to reach top 15 after gruppo compatto
a) even he wasn't be able to keep the gap. That was clear. Your hope was unfounded.
b) with that he wasn't able anymore to reach top 15 after gruppo compatto
Re: Catalunya h 22
Can we get back to the start?Team Franconia wrote:Libby okay...the last few days she rode for her sprinter, got victorys..absolutely nothing to complain...today for her pos. in GK...pos. 4 not the thing i'd ride for, but i can understand it...doesn't matter if i like it...
but the rest of your group is really disgusting...bernstein, berlin, suessem...total bullshit today
Franconia here agrees with Pirkio. Total Bullshit. Bernstein, berlin, suessem.
So let's not try to turn the thing around here, Pirkio is just a whiner, wa wa wa.
Libby rode for place 4, according to Conia, he seems to have seen the race,Conia isn't afraid to say what he thinks even if it's an old friend/guy he respects.
For him Libbys tempo was not brillant, he wouldn't like it, but can understand it. So I trust his judgement. The other 3 he mentions.
Of those three one actually wrote something:
So after reflecting on it, he seems to agree that his tempo wasn't good. He apologizes.Berlin Marks wrote:iam sorry. i dont know why iam rode.
The other 2? Nobody knows. But nobody has come up here to defend their tempo, or to say it was good.
Libby then shows up and writes:
Every day pirati rides against me, then he whines when I want to keep my GC place?jeden tag fährt pirati gegen mich und dann jammert er wenn ich meinen gk platz halten möchte.
So she confirms that she was riding to keep place 4 in the GC. Agree with Franconia, understandeble, but doesn't mean I like it. On the contrary, I think it's a pity to ride for fourth place.
Her way of writing the sentence leads me to suspect it was kind of a payback too. Pirati attacked her (on the road) every day, he mentioned it too, her leader was in the back, he and later Moto I think he said, rode. Nobody else did. So, payback, which IMO is ok too, you tried to take advantage of the situation when I was in trouble (which is ok), no I a) defend my 4th position, b) pay back your anti-Libby riding. a) mentioned what I think of it, but it's not unfair, b) see no problem with it.
As for the Aux vs Libby sideline fight? Stop it. Reading my post and riding a few races with Aux, much less w Just let the other ride? And if you don't understand something maybe ask? In the race, if not, after the race in the forum? Didn't get the reason for your tempo.. can you explain why? You're fighting with yourself here, you're the same.
Back to pirati: So 1 of 4 seems to be understandeble. 1 of 4 seems to admit to bad riding. 2 of 4 say nothing. The beneficiary says nothing.
Pirati suspects illegal deals now.
Libby demands a fine for Pirati for getting -3
You guys are doing a great job.
Happy to ride when I ride and not with you nuts.
Why doesn't skull say his opinion? How he saw the situation?
Why does Liberty not do an effort and write English?
Why does Pirati not acknoweldge Berlins post?
Why doesn't Pirati answer to Lecce?
Pirati: scientificamente che c'é la truffa?
Adesso fai ridere: Libby sembra averti inseguito il 27? Tappe piatta per sprinter e ha uno sprinter con 95?? Mi sembra normalissimo che insegua, sarebbe stupido non inseguire le fughe con uno sprinter di 95. Quelli ai quali hai preso il posto non ti insequivano? Rileggi il mio post: Spesso verso la fine, quando si vede chi restera a 1000 d'energie per il prossimo giorno molti inseguono. Non al inizio. Paura di rimanere a meno di mille d'energia il giorno dope. Questa la prova scientifica?
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