The C4F Cup -November 2025-

[cataracs]

Since the division system is boring, I'm creating a better competition. One team will be crowned champion at the end of the month.

To win, you have to be active almost daily, get great results and have riders for all kind of terrains. And of course, have a bit of luck.


There are three rounds:

The first devided into two groups (was gonna call them the Pros and the Plebs but nvm) The top tier teams, and "the rest".
The top teams are in 8 groups of 4, the top 2 from each group advance to the final round, while the other two move to Round2.
"the rest" play a little league where each tier 2 team will have to play against 3 different tier 3 teams(randomly). The top 32 qualifies to Round2.

Round2: the 32 qualified teams from "the rest" play a single elimination game and only 16 move forward. They"ll have to face the 16 losers from the top tier teams of Round1, in a best of 3 game. Winners advance to the final round.

Finals: The 32 teams left will play in a double elimination bracket system to decide one winner in the end.

Rules:
All the games are head to head
Round1 from Nov1 to Nov9. Round 2 from Nov10 to Nov13. Finals from Nov14 to Nov 30th.
Round2 and the Final game are best of 3. The pre final game might be best of 2 or3.
the top 20 riders in the race score the points, only first 3 from the team counts. (points are the same no matter the category or type=120-70-50-40-35-30-28-26-24-22-20-18-16-14-12-10-8-6-4-2).
the "tiers" are decided by the actual division ranking.
In round1 a win is 3pts, draw 1point and a loss is 0 pts. The ranking in round1 is decided by points, score, then direct confrontations.
if the team doesn't ride the day of their games they score 0 point.
in half stages the race of the better score counts.

Round1:
Top tier teams.

Group a: Tukhtahuaev/Narrenparty/RideforMoney/CreditPommes
Group b: Bugatti/FSG Sattelpuper/OLcycle/Medical Service
Group c: Black-Star/r FSCL/Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team/BeaconSV
Group d: Hansa/Radunion/Pokemonogatari/ATB - Racing
Group e: SouthWest Packers/Ansach/stevens/TDMLuxembourg
Group f: Alkworld/Falcor/Big Donkey/Romoc Riders
Group g: L RSV/Elaska/JapanNeutron/r TAKA
Group h: Dreizehn/SV Furpach/Schartner Bombe/Vives le velos

The rest.

All the rest that have at least 1 race this month and still have riders. (sorry if I missed some)


Next Games:

01.11.2025:

RV Allagen Vs White Red

Alpacas Vs Whisbone

Allrad Vs Team Viromet

Bearclaw Cycling Vs Trekken Racing

Flolandria Vs T-Mobile-A

Caballero Vs Solano Ledcoin

CircleCycle Vs Seibu High School

RSV Cottbus Vs Confidential Era

Czech lions Vs Rockstar Inc

Team Dagestan Vs Team Australia

ECS Cycling Vs Pantani Marco

FB Radsport Team Vs ostraciseteam

Team FL Vs Northern Forest Lake

Felsenland Vs Montania Crew

RSV Gera Vs Team-Mojabahs

Gipfelstuermer Vs Mintsprint

RC Hachen Vs rsv lünen

Hoefs Cycling Team Vs NoMoreLulz

O Imperdor Vs Legends of Handball

Crazy Vikings Vs GruppoRoma


02.11.2025:

Linn Drum Cycling Vs RP KMT

Lotto-Soudal Vs Fraegg

Atletico Lula Vs Hitdorf Cycling

Nash Team Vs Recycling Held

Team Obk Vs Hammer des Thor

OMG Berlin Vs Giotti Victoria

PandaCycling Vs Fdgames

Phle Cyclisme Vs Enigma1

F C PORTO Vs EMAG

Radomiak Vs Wolfpack Cycling Team

Red Sports Vs Eldorado veloclub

Rohazon RC Vs celteam

Schnuggeritos Vs Carrera Blue Jeans

RadioShanks Vs Bright

SweetLemmon Vs Bon Gamin

Rsc Spree Vs Team Bitibert

Team Trojer Vellau Vs S L Benfica

Vikings Berlin Vs RSVBenrath

waerl Vs astana-boys

Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV Vs Radioactive


03.11.2025:

Tukhtahuaev Vs CreditPommes

RideforMoney Vs Narrenparty

Bugatti Vs Medical Service

OLcycle Vs FSG Sattelpuper

Black-Star Vs Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team

BeaconSV Vs r FSCL

Hansa Vs Pokemonogatari

Radunion Vs ATB - Racing

TDMLuxembourg Vs SouthWest Packers

Ansach Vs stevens

Alkworld Vs Romoc Riders

Big Donkey Vs Falcor

Elaska Vs L RSV

r TAKA Vs JapanNeutron

Schartner Bombe Vs Dreizehn

SV Furpach Vs Vives le velos


04.11.2025:

Bearclaw Cycling Vs Hitdorf Cycling

O Imperdor Vs S L Benfica

Nash Team VS Eldorado veloclub

Crazy Vikings VS rsv lünen

PandaCycling VS Pantani Marco

Team Dagestan VS Wolfpack Cycling Team

Caballero Vs Bright

RSV Gera Vs Solano Ledcoin

Phle Cyclisme Vs Team-Mojabahs

ECS Cycling Vs Legends of Handball

SweetLemmon Vs NoMoreLulz

Team Obk Vs Team Bitibert

Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV Vs Seibu High School

OMG Berlin Vs Montania Crew

Allrad Vs Enigma1

Czech lions Vs Hammer des Thor

Red Sports Vs Team Australia

RSV Cottbus Vs Whisbone

Lotto-Soudal Vs Carrera Blue Jeans

Schnuggeritos Vs Fraegg



05.11.2025:

Team FL Vs Fdgames

Flolandria Vs celteam

Radomiak Vs RP KMT

Atletico Lula Vs Giotti Victoria

Rohazon RC Vs Northern Forest Lake

Hoefs Cycling Team Vs EMAG

FB Radsport Team Vs Mintsprint

RadioShanks Vs Recycling Held

CircleCycle Vs ostraciseteam

Team Trojer Vellau Vs Bon Gamin

F C PORTO Vs Rockstar Inc

Rsc Spree Vs Radioactive

waerl Vs Confidential Era

RC Hachen Vs astana-boys

Gipfelstuermer Vs T-Mobile-A

Linn Drum Cycling Vs RSVBenrath

Felsenland Vs Team Viromet

Alpacas Vs GruppoRoma

RV Allagen Vs Trekken Racing

Vikings Berlin Vs White Red


06.11.2025:

Tukhtahuaev Vs Narrenparty

RideforMoney Vs CreditPommes

Bugatti Vs FSG Sattelpuper

OLcycle Vs Medical Service

Black-Star Vs r FSCL

BeaconSV Vs Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team

Hansa Vs Radunion

Pokemonogatari Vs ATB - Racing

SouthWest Packers Vs Ansach

TDMLuxembourg Vs stevens

Alkworld Vs Falcor

Romoc Riders Vs Big Donkey

L RSV Vs JapanNeutron

Elaska Vs r TAKA

SV Furpach Vs Dreizehn

Schartner Bombe Vs Vives le velos


07.11.2025:

F C PORTO Vs Confidential Era

FB Radsport Team Vs T-Mobile-A

Team Dagestan Vs Giotti Victoria

PandaCycling Vs Team Viromet

RadioShanks Vs Seibu High School

Team FL Vs Fraegg

Allrad Vs Bon Gamin

Radomiak Vs Trekken Racing

Crazy Vikings Vs Hammer des Thor

Rsc Spree Vs Whisbone

Hoefs Cycling Team Vs Team Bitibert

waerl Vs Solano Ledcoin

Nash Team Vs Rockstar Inc

Red Sports Vs White Red

Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV Vs RP KMT

ECS Cycling Vs Hitdorf Cycling

Felsenland Vs Recycling Held

CircleCycle Vs RSVBenrath

Phle Cyclisme Vs GruppoRoma

Czech lions Vs astana-boys


08.11.2025:

Bearclaw Cycling Vs Carrera Blue Jeans

Flolandria Vs EMAG

Rohazon RC Vs Montania Crew

RSV Cottbus Vs Eldorado veloclub

RSV Gera Vs S L Benfica

SweetLemmon Vs Mintsprint

Caballero Vs Radioactive

Schnuggeritos Vs ostraciseteam

Gipfelstuermer Vs Legends of Handball

Team Trojer Vellau Vs Pantani Marco

RV Allagen Vs Fdgames

Atletico Lula Vs Team Australia

Team Obk Vs Northern Forest Lake

RC Hachen Vs celteam

Vikings Berlin Vs Team-Mojabahs

OMG Berlin Vs Wolfpack Cycling Team

Lotto-Soudal Vs Bright

O Imperdor Vs Enigma1

Alpacas Vs rsv lünen

Linn Drum Cycling Vs NoMoreLulz



09.11.2025:

Tukhtahuaev Vs RideforMoney

CreditPommes Vs Narrenparty

Bugatti Vs OLcycle

Medical Service Vs FSG Sattelpuper

Black-Star Vs BeaconSV

Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team Vs r FSCL

Hansa Vs ATB - Racing

Pokemonogatari VS Radunion

SouthWest Packers Vs stevens

TDMLuxembourg Vs Ansach

Alkworld Vs Big Donkey

Romoc Riders Vs Falcor

L RSV Vs r TAKA

Elaska Vs JapanNeutron

Dreizehn Vs Vives le velos

SV Furpach Vs Schartner Bombe

[flockmastoR]

I support every competition and during the offseason, I agree that the divisions are kind of boring.

Proud of being the plebs! Just hope you really do the work here, looks time consuming

[team fl]

Do you weigh in the number of teams per race as well? Much easier to have three riders in top 20 with only 5 teams than with 20 teams, f.e. And as it is head to head but not necessarily in the same group, I think that could be a distortion of competition. Of course it is also important which teams you're riding against in your race, but that would be too much to weigh in. And hardly calculable.

[cataracs]

I support every competition and during the offseason, I agree that the divisions are kind of boring.

Proud of being the plebs! Just hope you really do the work here, looks time consuming

The most time consuming part is kind of done

Do you weigh in the number of teams per race as well? Much easier to have three riders in top 20 with only 5 teams than with 20 teams, f.e. And as it is head to head but not necessarily in the same group, I think that could be a distortion of competition. Of course it is also important which teams you're riding against in your race, but that would be too much to weigh in. And hardly calculable.

Especially with the Andes on next month. I wanted to use the normal game points, but for tours it's less. But I suppose the points for the one day race cat1 can be used allover instead. it's somewhat unfair for teams ending up in 15+ fields, but let's consider that part of "luck".

[cataracs]

I think I can't come up with a "proper" points system, so any ideas are welcome. if I weigh in the number of teams per race, it favors the teams rding in big fields, because for example in a climbing race Murdobek would win in a 10 or 20 teams field anyway, so he just get his points buffed.

[team fl]

I think I can't come up with a "proper" points system, so any ideas are welcome. if I weigh in the number of teams per race, it favors the teams rding in big fields, because for example in a climbing race Murdobek would win in a 10 or 20 teams field anyway, so he just get his points buffed.

As it doesn't affect points or money in the game anyway, just do it as it is easiest for you. Or most fun for you. That's my advice. Don't weigh points, just start with it see where it's going. Find out in the process what needs to be adjusted, if anything.

[flockmastoR]

I think I can't come up with a "proper" points system, so any ideas are welcome. if I weigh in the number of teams per race, it favors the teams rding in big fields, because for example in a climbing race Murdobek would win in a 10 or 20 teams field anyway, so he just get his points buffed.

Simply don't weight.

[cataracs]

Results:

01.11.2025:

RV Allagen 0 Vs 0 White Red

Alpacas 0 Vs 24 Whisbone

Allrad 0 Vs 0 Team Viromet

Bearclaw Cycling 0 Vs 0 Trekken Racing

Flolandria 0 Vs 0 T-Mobile-A

Caballero 12 Vs 0 Solano Ledcoin

CircleCycle 0 Vs 0 Seibu High School

RSV Cottbus 0 Vs 0 Confidential Era

Czech lions 6 Vs 0 Rockstar Inc

Team Dagestan 0 Vs 0 Team Australia

ECS Cycling 26 Vs 36 Pantani Marco

FB Radsport Team 0 Vs 0 ostraciseteam

Team FL 0 Vs 0 Northern Forest Lake

Felsenland 0 Vs 0 Montania Crew

RSV Gera 0 Vs 0 Team-Mojabahs

Gipfelstuermer 0 Vs 22 Mintsprint

RC Hachen 84 Vs 0 rsv lünen

Hoefs Cycling Team 0 Vs 80 NoMoreLulz

O Imperdor 14 Vs 0 Legends of Handball

Crazy Vikings 0 Vs 0 GruppoRoma

[TDM_Luxembourg]

How will you calculate the half stages today?

[cataracs]

How will you calculate the half stages today?

in half stages the race of the better score counts.

meaning if you get 90 points in stage a and 80 points in stage b, you'll get 90 for the day.

[cataracs]

Results:

02.11.2025:

Linn Drum Cycling 62 Vs 0 RP KMT

Lotto-Soudal 22 Vs 6 Fraegg

Atletico Lula 63 Vs 92 Hitdorf Cycling

Nash Team 0 Vs 0 Recycling Held

Team Obk 0 Vs 0 Hammer des Thor

OMG Berlin 0 Vs 0 Giotti Victoria

PandaCycling 74 Vs 0 Fdgames

Phle Cyclisme 64 Vs 24 Enigma1

F C PORTO 0 Vs 0 EMAG

Radomiak 42 Vs 0 Wolfpack Cycling Team

Red Sports 0 Vs 0 Eldorado veloclub

Rohazon RC 68 Vs 0 celteam

Schnuggeritos 0 Vs 26 Carrera Blue Jeans

RadioShanks 0 Vs 49 Bright

SweetLemmon 0 Vs 82 Bon Gamin

Rsc Spree 26 Vs 4 Team Bitibert

Team Trojer Vellau 0 Vs 0 S L Benfica

Vikings Berlin 64 Vs 40 RSVBenrath

waerl 0 Vs 0 astana-boys

Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV 10 Vs 0 Radioactive

[flockmastoR]

So what happens with a draw?

[cataracs]

So what happens with a draw?

Nothing happens. But will have to find a tie breaker in knock out rounds, in case inactives advance.

[cataracs]

Results:

03.11.2025:

Tukhtahuaev 26 Vs 0 CreditPommes

RideforMoney 56 Vs 84 Narrenparty

Bugatti 65 Vs 40 Medical Service

OLcycle 37 Vs 76 FSG Sattelpuper

Black-Star 98 Vs 106 Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team

BeaconSV 0 Vs 163 r FSCL

Hansa 0 Vs 0 Pokemonogatari

Radunion 64 Vs 24 ATB - Racing

TDMLuxembourg 8 Vs 122 SouthWest Packers

Ansach 8 Vs 54 stevens

Alkworld 64 Vs 72 Romoc Riders

Big Donkey 57 Vs 24 Falcor

Elaska 146 Vs 0 L RSV

r TAKA 60 Vs 18 JapanNeutron

Schartner Bombe 16 Vs 18 Dreizehn

SV Furpach 70 Vs 0 Vives le velos



Rankings:

• Group a
  1.Narrenparty 1w 84p
  2.Tukhtahuaev 1w 26p
  3.RideforMoney 0w 56p
  4.CreditPommes 0w 0p

• Group b
  1.FSG Sattelpuper 1w 76p
  2.Bugatti 1w 65p
  3.Medical Service 0w 40p
  4.OLcycle 0w 37p

• Group c
  1.r FSCL1w 163p
  2.Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team 1w 106p
  3.Black-Star 0w 98p
  4.BeaconSV 0w 0p

• Group d
  1.Radunion 1w 64p
  2.ATB - Racing 0w 24p
  3.Hansa 0w 0p
  4.Pokemonogatari 0w 0p

• Group e
  1.SouthWest Packers 1w 122p
  2.stevens 1w 54p
  3.Ansach 0w 8p
  4.TDMLuxembourg 0w 8p

• Group f
  1.Romoc Riders 1w 72p
  2.Big Donkey 1w 57p
  3.Alkworld 0w 64p
  4.Falcor 0w 24p

• Group g
  1.Elaska 1w 146p
  2.r TAKA 1w 60p
  3.JapanNeutron 0w 18p
  4.L RSV 0w 0p

• Group h
  1.SV Furpach 1w 70p
  2.Dreizehn 1w 18p
  3.Schartner Bombe 0w 16p
  4.Vives le velos 0w 0p

Biggest surprise after the first games is Romoc leading in the hardest group

[cataracs]

Results:

04.11.2025:

Bearclaw Cycling 0 Vs 2 Hitdorf Cycling

O Imperdor 28 Vs 0 S L Benfica

Nash Team 39 VS 0 Eldorado veloclub

Crazy Vikings 0 VS 0 rsv lünen

PandaCycling 14 VS 0 Pantani Marco

Team Dagestan 0 VS 24 Wolfpack Cycling Team

Caballero 0 Vs 0 Bright

RSV Gera 24 Vs 0 Solano Ledcoin

Phle Cyclisme 49 Vs 0 Team-Mojabahs

ECS Cycling 0 Vs 20 Legends of Handball

SweetLemmon 30 Vs 96 NoMoreLulz

Team Obk 112 Vs 2 Team Bitibert

Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV 32 Vs 10 Seibu High School

OMG Berlin 30 Vs 0 Montania Crew

Allrad 30 Vs 0 Enigma1

Czech lions 14 Vs 0 Hammer des Thor

Red Sports 0 Vs 0 Team Australia

RSV Cottbus 48 Vs 0 Whisbone

Lotto-Soudal 72 Vs 0 Carrera Blue Jeans

Schnuggeritos 0 Vs 47 Fraegg

[Hansa]

• Group d
  1.Radunion 1w 64p
  2.ATB - Racing 0w 24p
  3.Hansa 0w 0p
  4.Pokemonogatari 0w 0p

I thought ties would score 1 point and wins 3 points wouldnt that put poke and me over ATB with our great 0-0 tie? XD

In round1 a win is 3pts, draw 1point and a loss is 0 pts

2nd question how will you score the TTT?

[cataracs]

• Group d
  1.Radunion 1w 64p
  2.ATB - Racing 0w 24p
  3.Hansa 0w 0p
  4.Pokemonogatari 0w 0p

I thought ties would score 1 point and wins 3 points wouldnt that put poke and me over ATB with our great 0-0 tie? XD

In round1 a win is 3pts, draw 1point and a loss is 0 pts

2nd question how will you score the TTT?

Because of the many afk teams, only wins counting is more fair to the unlucky players that scores points but couldn't win, so I'll change that rule lol.

For the TTT the teams placement is considered instead of the riders.

[bergwerk cycling]

What a glorious game is this???

[r FSCL]

Is this the C4F SuperLeague ... we dont needed like in football xD

[bergwerk cycling]

Aaah - Is God playing Infantino, inviting his guests into his own sandbox while everyone else has to play outside?

I could send some sand molds and a watering can...

[drei.zehn]

Don’t get the hate here. He is trying to make offseason more interesting and even if it still needs to be adapted here and there, I really like the idea and the effort he is bringing in here.

Greetings from the evil side^^

[bergwerk cycling]

Is this hate speech? Okay... then I'll post it right away!

I'm just adapting to his aggressive tone so he'll understand me!

The criticism should focus on why not everyone can participate in his sandbox game!


Is all of this normal, and should I just put up with it?
In civilized discourse, one asks who wants to participate or not. He doesn't need to ask me anymore, but perhaps others are still missing...
Do you think he's a victim?
If so, I'm probably really in the wrong place... sorry!

[cataracs]

Is this the C4F SuperLeague ... we dont needed like in football xD

Nations cup. Superleague wouldn't allow noob teams like yours

[bergwerk cycling]

And unfortunately, you're really not funny either.

[Berlin Marks]

I had to laugh about that.