Le Tour 2025

[olmania]

I think it's good to publish. I probably won't have time to check the details of more stages by the weekend. If someone want to do it, feel free to do it fast
and agree with Tukh, no details from the organizer, so we had to deal with details found elsewhere on the internet (and sometimes not that reliable ofc).

[Schartner Bombe]

I dont change something on the stages I designed - for me its good

[Tukhtahuaev]

I just realised that our classification of the stages is not quite correct. From the rulebook (https://storage-aso.lequipe.fr/ASO/cycl ... ent-v2.pdf):




So
1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 11, 15, 17, 21 should be flat
6, 16, 20 should be hilly
10, 12, 14, 18, 19 should be mountain
5, 13 should be ITT

[Radunion]

The ASO hates sprinters. But well, we ride what they are planning for us. I'm still angry about what they have done to Paris - Tours.

[Robyklebt]

Agree about Paris-Tours.
As for hating sprinters, no, they hate points. It's a point jersey, not a sprint jersey, should give equal amount of points on every stage.

[Gipfelstuermer]

So
1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 11, 15, 17, 21 should be flat
6, 16, 20 should be hilly
10, 12, 14, 18, 19 should be mountain
5, 13 should be ITT

So 2,4,7 and 15 needed to be changed from hilly to flat.
16 needed to be changed from mountain to hilly.

[team fl]

double post...

[team fl]

So
1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 11, 15, 17, 21 should be flat
6, 16, 20 should be hilly
10, 12, 14, 18, 19 should be mountain
5, 13 should be ITT

So 2,4,7 and 15 needed to be changed from hilly to flat.
16 needed to be changed from mountain to hilly.

On the official TdF website, stage 4 is still a hilly stage, btw.: https://www.letour.fr/de/etappe-4

[Tukhtahuaev]

So
1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 11, 15, 17, 21 should be flat
6, 16, 20 should be hilly
10, 12, 14, 18, 19 should be mountain
5, 13 should be ITT

So 2,4,7 and 15 needed to be changed from hilly to flat.
16 needed to be changed from mountain to hilly.

On the official TdF website, stage 4 is still a hilly stage, btw.: https://www.letour.fr/de/etappe-4

That is true, but hilly or not doesn't tell us about how many points those stages give. For that you need the categorisation from 1-6 from the rulebook

[Hansa]

So
1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 11, 15, 17, 21 should be flat
6, 16, 20 should be hilly
10, 12, 14, 18, 19 should be mountain
5, 13 should be ITT

So 2,4,7 and 15 needed to be changed from hilly to flat.
16 needed to be changed from mountain to hilly.

On the official TdF website, stage 4 is still a hilly stage, btw.: https://www.letour.fr/de/etappe-4

And if you check the awarded points it awards 50 points for p1 you can find that on your link, ist sadly not consistend with 3 categorizations on the site but 6 inthe rulebook

[team fl]

So
1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 11, 15, 17, 21 should be flat
6, 16, 20 should be hilly
10, 12, 14, 18, 19 should be mountain
5, 13 should be ITT

So 2,4,7 and 15 needed to be changed from hilly to flat.
16 needed to be changed from mountain to hilly.

On the official TdF website, stage 4 is still a hilly stage, btw.: https://www.letour.fr/de/etappe-4

And if you check the awarded points it awards 50 points for p1 you can find that on your link, ist sadly not consistend with 3 categorizations on the site but 6 inthe rulebook

ah dammit, those sneaky bastards! Thanks

[olmania]

Just for planning: The last stage has three 6% climbs during the last 30 kms, the last around 6 km before the finish line, right?

yes with pave even
so 6* most likely maybe we get a 5* could depend on the designer but i would guess on 6*

If that loop comes again next years, maybe that deserves a ** instead of * ?
If the times were not frozen due to rain by organizers, there would have been small gaps between GC contenders for sure. That loop was ridden really like a classic. cobbles, yes, climb, yes, but also technical parts, many turns. and the hill is hard/steep/cobbled enough to make real differences.

Then switching it to 5% instead of 6% to make it even more "classic" in RSF, is another option/question.