October 2023
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Re: October 2023
Hm, Bernocchi at 9 should be 8 riders. Or is it too late?
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Re: October 2023
Early enough that one
In fact it's 8 riders/team already in the in-game Editor.
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Re: October 2023
Still not more info. Not sure how to proceed here. Is someone already about to design it from the (very bad quality) mapGipfelstuermer wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:33 pm- Tour de Vendée >>> Map here but no gpx and not on LFR yet
Additional question: Thought that fantasy one day races usually should not have more than 8 riders. Am I wrong on that? Reason is that I just set a One Day Fantasy race at 9 riders from Roby and was just wondering.
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Re: October 2023
I guess that's the best option. Probably I have time for it tomorrow, design it, then publish everything that's already designed for October. A bit late, because I like publishing chronologically, but then of course stuff like Tour de Vendée leads to races being published veeeery late. Maybe a reason to downgrade that to Cat. 1, too, for 2024.flockmastoR wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:25 pmIs someone already about to design it from the (very bad quality) mapGipfelstuermer wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:33 pm- Tour de Vendée >>> Map here but no gpx and not on LFR yet
Edit: If I don't have the time tomorrow, we can ride last years version or a fantasy race. Both are valid options in such a case, I would say.
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Re: October 2023
Vendée? I tried designing it yesterday, got pissed off by the weird thing between sprint 6+7 and gave up.flockmastoR wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:25 pmStill not more info. Not sure how to proceed here. Is someone already about to design it from the (very bad quality) mapGipfelstuermer wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:33 pm- Tour de Vendée >>> Map here but no gpx and not on LFR yet
Additional question: Thought that fantasy one day races usually should not have more than 8 riders. Am I wrong on that? Reason is that I just set a One Day Fantasy race at 9 riders from Roby and was just wondering.
Fantasy races? Designers decision last time I checked.
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Re: October 2023
Vendee: thats what I would suspect from the map Gip was linking here. Earlier edition would be a good way out. As I don't expect it to change the characteristic of the race.Robyklebt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:33 amVendée? I tried designing it yesterday, got pissed off by the weird thing between sprint 6+7 and gave up.flockmastoR wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:25 pmStill not more info. Not sure how to proceed here. Is someone already about to design it from the (very bad quality) mapGipfelstuermer wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:33 pm- Tour de Vendée >>> Map here but no gpx and not on LFR yet
Additional question: Thought that fantasy one day races usually should not have more than 8 riders. Am I wrong on that? Reason is that I just set a One Day Fantasy race at 9 riders from Roby and was just wondering.
Fantasy races? Designers decision last time I checked.
Fantasy races: If it was like that until now, it's ok. Just thought that 9 riders races are just for very important races. But makes sense in some fantasy races to do it like that. Just witnessed that after my break nearly all fantasy races are below 9 riders and thought there might be some more general rule behind that.
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Re: October 2023
Ok, 2022 edition it is. Because Map is unusable. Cat2.flockmastoR wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:06 amEarlier edition would be a good way out. As I don't expect it to change the characteristic of the race.
Any opposition must be quick before I press the publish button around 12 CET.
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Re: October 2023
Think it is the best to do!Gipfelstuermer wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:40 amOk, 2022 edition it is. Because Map is unusable. Cat2.flockmastoR wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:06 amEarlier edition would be a good way out. As I don't expect it to change the characteristic of the race.
Any opposition must be quick before I press the publish button around 12 CET.
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Re: October 2023
IMO shouldn't change the category, it changes little, as far as I had managed to follow it there seemed to be no siebkm either..
So opposition!
So opposition!
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Re: October 2023
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Re: October 2023
Lots of stuff published today.
Also designed:
A LOT of gravel. For two reasons.
1) It's the BWR with the highest % of gravel.
2.) Downhill Pavé Bug has been solved. Or at least there was an Alk/AAD attempt to solve it. So let's test it in a not too important race.
One question though: I think we created this 3km * and then ** for consecutive gravel km design philosophy when that bug was in everybody's mind. Now, gravel sectors will, on margin, become longer. Do you think we should adjust that philosophy, important for races like Strade Bianche, or leave as is even if sectors overall will become longer? No need to decide now, but maybe better to start discussion now rather than a few days before March 2024.
New route 2023 with Monte Berico described on the website as 7.1% for exactly 1km, so here +7.
Different run into Bassano del Grappa and then La Rosina and La Tisa each 1x more than last year.
Everything designed for October, finally I can start working on my favorite project: Another December Tour disqualificition
Also designed:
A LOT of gravel. For two reasons.
1) It's the BWR with the highest % of gravel.
2.) Downhill Pavé Bug has been solved. Or at least there was an Alk/AAD attempt to solve it. So let's test it in a not too important race.
One question though: I think we created this 3km * and then ** for consecutive gravel km design philosophy when that bug was in everybody's mind. Now, gravel sectors will, on margin, become longer. Do you think we should adjust that philosophy, important for races like Strade Bianche, or leave as is even if sectors overall will become longer? No need to decide now, but maybe better to start discussion now rather than a few days before March 2024.
New route 2023 with Monte Berico described on the website as 7.1% for exactly 1km, so here +7.
Different run into Bassano del Grappa and then La Rosina and La Tisa each 1x more than last year.
Everything designed for October, finally I can start working on my favorite project: Another December Tour disqualificition
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Re: October 2023
Please still watch those earlier pave bug sections and report if unplausible things happen there. Don't really know how Alk resolved it, but from knowing what caused it, there is still interpretetion on how it "should" be.
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Re: October 2023
As mentioned somewhere, there is an error in Tour de Paves, the ITT should be a half stage as well. Already published.
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Re: October 2023
Looks ok to me? Or someone else resolved it already?flockmastoR wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 11:18 amAs mentioned somewhere, there is an error in Tour de Paves, the ITT should be a half stage as well. Already published.
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Re: October 2023
Yes I think there's a mistake in the pavés tour, I mentioned it in the calendar chat. One of the half stages isn't set as a half stage. Or maybe I'm wrong, not sure.
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Re: October 2023
To me it seems correct, because it says "Full/Half Stage: FirstHalfStage" and both stages are planned for the same date (which is only possible with half stages). Perhaps Alk can confirm.
Anyway, some bug-danger of course, because we never had half stages in React before. But acceptable to have that in a fantasy tour. We need to test it eventually
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Re: October 2023
Ok then probably just a display thing that needs to be adjusted. Because the first stage in the overview doesn't have the half stage tag. Probably also wanted, but for me confusing because before, both were tagged as half stagesGipfelstuermer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:03 pmTo me it seems correct, because it says "Full/Half Stage: FirstHalfStage" and both stages are planned for the same date (which is only possible with half stages). Perhaps Alk can confirm.
Anyway, some bug-danger of course, because we never had half stages in React before. But acceptable to have that in a fantasy tour. We need to test it eventually
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Re: October 2023
Actually in the "stage info" if the itt it says first half stage, so should be fine. The (half stage) just doesn't appear on the stages list like it does for the second race, maybe because it's a time trial.
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Re: October 2023
Just a question on number of editions for the offseason:
Should we stay with the convention to provide ???
5 times (work days, no parallel races)
4 times (weekend OR work day with parallel stage race)
Do we expect a major drop in active teams?
Should we stay with the convention to provide ???
5 times (work days, no parallel races)
4 times (weekend OR work day with parallel stage race)
Do we expect a major drop in active teams?
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Re: October 2023
Usually there is a drop, but it might have already started?
I'd be flexible and do a bit of both, see how it works, 4 edition one day, 5 the next... If with 5 we get 5 editions with 10+, stick with 5, but if not mix it up a bit, so we have bigger groups and smaller ones
I'd be flexible and do a bit of both, see how it works, 4 edition one day, 5 the next... If with 5 we get 5 editions with 10+, stick with 5, but if not mix it up a bit, so we have bigger groups and smaller ones
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Re: October 2023
Currently, without a parallel stage race, 5 editions should be good on weekdays as we have around 55-65 teams active on such days. Yesterday (50) and Monday (57) slightly lower, most likely just because of National Holiday in Germany (and Brückentag in between). Today already 47 inscribed, even though inscriptions for the evening tend to come late. Even the late evening seems to work these days with 15 teams at 22h Bernocchi and 10 Teams at 23h Binche, despite those races being around 2h long.
Some off-season drop possible, yes, so we'll have to keep observing the situation.
Some off-season drop possible, yes, so we'll have to keep observing the situation.
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Re: October 2023
i realised it very late but for the NCS we again only have the random profiles?
Not the real ones (last time for swiss we had the real profile)
Not the real ones (last time for swiss we had the real profile)
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Re: October 2023
But there are no real races now, are there
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Re: October 2023
ok if thats the reason to go back to the random onces
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Re: October 2023
I think it is random ones for most of the RSF NCs, if there are real races and someone designs them they can always be added. Not sure if it makes sense to put in fantasy designs for some?!Hansa wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:37 pmok if thats the reason to go back to the random onces
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