Teamattack - Team Zanarkand and Katschberger RC

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Teamattack - Team Zanarkand and Katschberger RC

Post by ProTour-Team » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:14 am

Highlands Highway Cycling Race 22h
1. 00:00:00 Santiago Bolivar (Team Zanarkand)
2. 00:00:23 Hassan Rowshan (Team Zanarkand)
3. 00:00:23 Dan Napomocny (Katschberger RC)
4. 00:00:23 Yukinori Shinohara (Katschberger RC)
5. 00:00:23 Pierro Silva (Team Zanarkand)

Km: 95, Steigung: -7
Leszek Sztoch (guciuzuza) attackiert
Nikolai Lepik (Katschberger RC) geht mit
Hilario Rodriguez (Team Zanarkand) geht mit
Gerhard Holzmeister (Katschberger RC) geht mit
Janusz Aorta (guciuzuza) attackiert
Tina Rosenbauer (Katschberger RC) geht mit
Clinton Kiddle (Team Zanarkand) geht mit
Stanislas Sotirovic (Katschberger RC) geht mit
Carlos Figueroa (Team Zanarkand) geht mit

guci continued to pull the group, zanar and katsch dropped nobody. zanar rode behind and after he made a sieb he dropped those 3 riders to make tempo. katsch just kept the riders with guci, made no tempo and after zanar caught tempo no tempo/attacks aswell. in chat chat again no comments by anybody.

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Re: Teamattack - Team Zanarkand and Katschberger RC

Post by Hunsrueck » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:00 am

fpc is reviewing this case

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Re: Teamattack - Team Zanarkand and Katschberger RC

Post by Team Zanarkand » Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:04 am

Hello,

Only 3 teams at start, nobody told anything. Not sure that it was changing something on the results

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Re: Teamattack - Team Zanarkand and Katschberger RC

Post by ProTour-Team » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:58 am

well you agree to the rules with every race so why would you need anybody to tell you?
it was a teamattack, you used all 3 riders and therefore took advantage. sure easy win for you even without that but thats no argument aswell.

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Re: Teamattack - Team Zanarkand and Katschberger RC

Post by Team Zanarkand » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:10 am

I agree with you.
But i think if every teams are ok with what happen on the race, things should not take this kind of pressure..

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Re: Teamattack - Team Zanarkand and Katschberger RC

Post by Team Zanarkand » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:14 am

If you think that need sanctions, ok do it.
I think fair play rules are essentials, but you may have consider that a race with 2-3 teams or a race with more teams are not really the same thing.

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Re: Teamattack - Team Zanarkand and Katschberger RC

Post by ProTour-Team » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:30 am

even worse arguments here^^ it remains a teamattack, even if all involved teams had no clue about those rules you still agree to with every race you ride.. with more than 700 races you should really be aware of them.

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Re: Teamattack - Team Zanarkand and Katschberger RC

Post by Team Zanarkand » Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:05 am

Its not really arguments, just feelings.
Well, we should discuss on it on the chat when it was arrived.

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Re: Teamattack - Team Zanarkand and Katschberger RC

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:43 am

Katschberger RC: PENALTY SUBMITTED: FINE OF50000, WARNING: NO
Team Zanarkand: PENALTY SUBMITTED: FINE OF50000, WARNING: NO
guciuzuza: PENALTY SUBMITTED: FINE OF150000, WARNING: NO

FPC takes into account that these were the first team attacks of Zanarkand and Katschberger RC. We also see, that these were very small races with a a limited number of players and no complains in the race chat. guciuzuza however had a team attack before. For Zanarkand the second case is still open, but I interpret that he probably won't be charged for a second time. This is because both cases were running simultaneously, he answered in Forum and made clear what were the circumstances.
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Re: Teamattack - Team Zanarkand and Katschberger RC

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:08 am

Maybe I missed something, but guciuzuza didn't do a team attack??
From the first post:
He attacks with 2. 7 guys follow, 4 Katschberger, 3 Zanarkand.

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Re: Teamattack - Team Zanarkand and Katschberger RC

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:08 pm

Robyklebt wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:08 am
Maybe I missed something, but guciuzuza didn't do a team attack??
From the first post:
He attacks with 2. 7 guys follow, 4 Katschberger, 3 Zanarkand.

What's the fine for?
Belongs to the following case, which is very similar. Sorry if that caused some confusion.

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Re: Teamattack - Team Zanarkand and Katschberger RC

Post by Robyklebt » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:34 am

Ok, thanks, got it. Seemed weird here :D
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