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Downhill .Pavés
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:41 am
by cataracs
The gaps on a -13* are a joke, take off the dh pavés again, please.
Re: Downhill .Pavés
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:30 am
by ATB - Racing
Race: Alexandrette - Antioche
Start Time: 23:00 CET
13 Go Hojo 58 73 78 49 49 74.8 49 00:00:00 r TAKA
17 Kyoichi Suda 53 87 78 53 53 78 44 00:00:00 r TAKA
45 Ernesto Primitivo 57 82 79 53 54 71.2 36 00:00:00 Motor Trachenberge
46 Odiel vandenMeerschaut 61 82 50 54 50 76.6 40 00:00:00 Motor Trachenberge
68 Tobias Körber 52 84 67 53 53 81.3 47 00:00:00 ATB - Racing
67 Norbert Hafenmeister 52 86 59 50 52 75.8 51 00:01:20 ATB - Racing
58 Mohamad Kawari 68 85 62 50 55 76 49 00:02:06 Crazy Vikings (first rider in peloton)
Km: 129, Steigung: -13, Kopfsteinpflaster: 1*
13 Go Hojo 58 73 78 49 49 74.8 49 00:00:00 r TAKA
17 Kyoichi Suda 53 87 78 53 53 78 44 00:00:00 r TAKA
45 Ernesto Primitivo 57 82 79 53 54 71.2 36 00:00:00 Motor Trachenberge
68 Tobias Körber 52 84 67 53 53 81.3 47 00:00:00 ATB - Racing
46 Odiel vandenMeerschaut 61 82 50 54 50 76.6 40 00:01:27 Motor Trachenberge
67 Norbert Hafenmeister 52 86 59 50 52 75.8 51 00:01:56 ATB - Racing (now Hafenmeister was the first rider in peloton)
58 Mohamad Kawari 68 85 62 50 55 76 49 00:03:08 Crazy Vikings
Hafenmeister riding green, all others red. Hafenmeister with 59 dh lost 36 seconds, while vandenMeerschaut (50 dh) lost 1:27.
Hafenmeister had ca. 600 energy.
Kawari (62 dh) lost 1:02.
Re: Downhill .Pavés
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:06 am
by flockmastoR
cataracs wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:41 am
The gaps on a -13* are a joke, take off the dh pavés again, please.
I am pro taka in this case. Take them out until the race engine is redone. The behavior on downhill pave doesn't work as intended IMO.
Re: Downhill .Pavés
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:50 pm
by Alkworld
flockmastoR wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:06 am
cataracs wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:41 am
The gaps on a -13* are a joke, take off the dh pavés again, please.
I am pro taka in this case. Take them out until the race engine is redone. The behavior on downhill pave doesn't work as intended IMO.
Agree, this old Buhmann pavé code was never really tested due to the various bugs, and it's really hard to understand the thoughts behind it. Anyway, the riders shouldn't lose more time than it actually takes to ride down that steep. Once this will be implemented (talking about years in the future), the width of the road and the curviness (is that a word?) needs to be considered as well, as it would make a huge difference on how fast the riders would go.
Re: Downhill .Pavés
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:47 am
by Hansa
So we ban downhill paves in designs again?
Re: Downhill .Pavés
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:56 am
by flockmastoR
Hansa wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:47 am
So we ban downhill paves in designs again?
I would recommend it
Re: Downhill .Pavés
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 3:23 pm
by Radunion
Or easier, just ignore it in the in-race calculations.
Re: Downhill .Pavés
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 3:38 pm
by flockmastoR
Radunion wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 3:23 pm
Or easier, just ignore it in the in-race calculations.
Knowing the code, this is not going to be easier
