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Waiting for boss does not work

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 9:02 pm
by Chense
Todays 19h Giro not only for me but for several teams it was not possible to wait for another rider - for me e.g. might be ending up in loosing a rider like this (Simon Nenning as i was not able to let Istvan Györi fall back to help him) and there might be riders under reg that shouldnt be if they could have had the helper ... hope you correct this means in the end at least no riders falling out of time and something about the power

Thanks

Re: Waiting for boss does not work

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 9:24 pm
by Hansa
Same problem for me. i dont think we should do much about the power because we cant prove it. but i think you should put the riders back in the race because the barely fall out and 100% wouldnt have fallen out without this bug.

p.s. i havent lost any riders

Re: Waiting for boss does not work

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 12:30 am
by CircleCycle
Had the bug too.
First it worked only every second km for Pauwel Kwak

Km: 188, Steigung: 4
Pauwel Kwak (CircleCycle) lässt sich zurückfallen

Km: 187, Steigung: -3

Km: 186, Steigung: -2
Pauwel Kwak (CircleCycle) lässt sich zurückfallen

Km: 185, Steigung: -6

Km: 184, Steigung: -6
Pauwel Kwak (CircleCycle) lässt sich zurückfallen

Km: 183, Steigung: -3

Km: 180, Steigung: 0
Pauwel Kwak (CircleCycle) lässt sich zurückfallen

Km: 178, Steigung: -7
Pauwel Kwak (CircleCycle) lässt sich zurückfallen

Km: 177, Steigung: -6

Km: 176, Steigung: -6
Pauwel Kwak (CircleCycle) lässt sich zurückfallen

From km200 on it didn't work at all for all my riders. The "Aus Gruppe fallen lassen" tempo setting worked, but made it of way more difficult to send a rider back of course.

I hope you can find the bug, in the end I didn't dare to drop Hitoshi (and possibly later Paulo) for pulling Wordsworth, when he was siebed.

Re: Waiting for boss does not work

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 7:22 am
by Robyklebt
The situation at 15h:

Everything seemed normal in the first part. Riders falling back. (Didn't check if we had the every second km thing too, didn't pay attention)

In the end, for sure in the last climb maybe before 2 things didn't work.

1) wait for leader.
2) drop back when the guy you're helping is dropped.

Re: Waiting for boss does not work

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 9:31 am
by Pokemon Club
Strange thing is that that works during 3/4 of the race, and that works on short races too.

Re: Waiting for boss does not work

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 10:03 am
by Chense
Pokemon Club wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 9:31 am
Strange thing is that that works during 3/4 of the race, and that works on short races too.
Dont know when it started to bug exactly as i thought first nenning would make it through alone ... first realized at some point then that falling back to my sprinter did not work ... so i immediately tried to let my istvan fall back to nenning when i wasnt quite sure anymore if nenning can do it alone but still not working

Re: Waiting for boss does not work

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 3:08 pm
by luques
Will put back riders that were disqualified for time, however I need to know the names of riders involved.

I don't think this bug will be fixed before end of Giro to be honest as we still need to understand what is the cause (as nothing changed on that side in last months).

So a couple of questions for those who suffered the bug:

1) Is it happening only at GIRO?

2) Is the bug occurring after min tact or also before? As it may be a problem of the min tact script,

Re: Waiting for boss does not work

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 4:32 pm
by Hansa
luques wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 3:08 pm
Will put back riders that were disqualified for time, however I need to know the names of riders involved.

I don't think this bug will be fixed before end of Giro to be honest as we still need to understand what is the cause (as nothing changed on that side in last months).

So a couple of questions for those who suffered the bug:

1) Is it happening only at GIRO?

2) Is the bug occurring after min tact or also before? As it may be a problem of the min tact script,
For me only happend at the last mountain. If i get more infos i write that here.

For the 19h race jockel dropped his guys on purpose and spree wasnt there so they would have been lost anyways.

Karenzzeit �berschritten:
131. 00:46:23 Michael Schulze (rsv lünen)
136. 00:46:23 Simon Nenning (Team Trojer Vellau)

These 2 guys were together most of the time and fell out because of going to 0 power. There were in front of the other gruppetto guys so If ttv would have been able to drop one guy both this guys would have been saved.

These are all guys who fell out but like written above jockel dropped them on purpose on km 1. And spree wasnt there so the other guys wozld have been lost anyways.

Karenzzeit �berschritten:
131. 00:46:23 Michael Schulze (rsv lünen)
132. 00:46:23 Hinnerk Panke (Rsc Spree)
133. 00:46:23 Roman Panke (Rsc Spree)
134. 00:46:23 Jack Storer (Jockelsteam)
135. 00:46:23 Mikaela Kulstad (Jockelsteam)
136. 00:46:23 Simon Nenning (Team Trojer Vellau)
137. 00:46:23 Hermann Grazer (Jockelsteam)
138. 00:46:23 Rod Steiger (Jockelsteam)
139. 00:46:23 Macello Alolo (Jockelsteam)
140. 00:46:23 Andre Linke (Jockelsteam)
141. 00:46:23 Laurent Fressinet (Jockelsteam)
142. 00:46:23 Andreas Landtmann (Jockelsteam)
143. 00:48:02 Indah Deviana (Jockelsteam)

Re: Waiting for boss does not work

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 6:19 pm
by Chense
Thabks for the info hansa! I think for our 19h race you named all guy

Re: Waiting for boss does not work

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 8:41 pm
by Robyklebt
Today at 15h Aix tested, waiting for the leader worked both during the 30" and the mintact.