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Falling away of riders with 0 Power
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:58 pm
by Cerro Torre RT
Situation from today:
Zachary Pootoogook - Team Bearclaw - 44 mountain value - 0 power
Thor Mithra - Sandow - 57 mountain value - aproximatly 0 power (was at the end of the fiels)
Those to stayed in the peloton at a 9%
6 riders fell away, including
Reto Götschi - Cerro Torre RT - 46 mountain value - 130 power
Vukasin Rajkovic - Cerro Torre RT - 48 mountain value - 410 power
Fighting was Yes at least for Götschi, Rajkovic and Pootoogook.
It is not the first time i had the opinion there may be a mistake in here, but i never could find adecuate numbers to show that. But this one is clear. Powerless riders are much to hard to sieve.
Re: Falling away of riders with 0 Power
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:05 pm
by Buhmann
I´ll take a look at this. Maybe i should integrate that powerless rider fall away in flat, too.
Re: Falling away of riders with 0 Power
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:12 pm
by Luna
Buhmann wrote:Maybe i should integrate that powerless rider fall away in flat, too.
Re: Falling away of riders with 0 Power
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:09 pm
by Neutrogena
Seriously, that would be evil for sprinter teams in races where we only have 8 riders. Apart from that it would be nearly impossible to finish a GT with more than 6 riders when you want to get enough mass sprints to stand a chance for the green jersey given there aren't that many sprinter teams around like last year.
Re: Falling away of riders with 0 Power
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:50 am
by Rockstar Inc
Great Idea, you will get many "yes" from teams who don't chase in any races...they aren't affected by such a change...the number will be very big, mentalita ticos is growing rapidly day for day...
Re: Falling away of riders with 0 Power
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:32 pm
by olmania
Another thing yesterday during my race.
Arturo and Gabriel with the same energy when they start the hill (the first big hill, not the hill of the end), in the spanish race. Arturo did no tempo during the hill, and Gabriel did 3km in tempo alone on km, with all two kms. A the top of the hill Gabriel 930 energy, Arturo 940.
Re: Falling away of riders with 0 Power
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:53 pm
by Buhmann
Why not? Maybe he was stronger and so needn´t lost so much energy. That should be correct. I would be borring if everything can be easily calculated.
Re: Falling away of riders with 0 Power
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:06 pm
by olmania
Buhmann wrote:Why not? Maybe he was stronger and so needn´t lost so much energy. That should be correct. I would be borring if everything can be easily calculated.
Not in form, not stronger (70Mo vs 74), and i never saw that before. But ok, thank you
Re: Falling away of riders with 0 Power
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:14 pm
by Buhmann
Furthermore, tempo at the mountain does not cost so much.
Re: Falling away of riders with 0 Power
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:59 am
by Gera
Southern Sun Classics 16.04.2010
Es wird gesiebt bei Kilometer 100
Sisawo bereits alle, da vorher Tempo gemacht - kein kämpfen an, Kraft unter 100
Zorill ist im Tempo - kämpfen an, Kraft über 400
Nach dem Sieb ist Zorilla ganz hinten ... ein paar Sekunden vor ihm Sisawo ... kann nicht sein, achja beide übrigens jeweils 46 Berg
Re: Falling away of riders with 0 Power
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:30 pm
by Buhmann
English forum...
Aber weils nur der Bugteil ist will ich mal nicht so sein: Wie steil war es? Hört sich wieder klar nach Mindesttempo an.
Re: Falling away of riders with 0 Power
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:58 pm
by skull
maybe its clever when the minimum tempo for a 46-mountain-400-energy guy is higher than the minimum tempo for a 46-mountain-0-energy guy
Re: Falling away of riders with 0 Power
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:14 pm
by Gera
Buhmann wrote:English forum...
Aber weils nur der Bugteil ist will ich mal nicht so sein: Wie steil war es? Hört sich wieder klar nach Mindesttempo an.
Sorry, it was red Tempo ... km 100 ... 9%