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Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:04 am
by auxilium torino
Alte design:
Plato 653
Razcon 524

Visconti 829
SantiNelli 490
Etc...

neue design:
Plato 654
Razcon 525

Visconti 829
SantiNelli 491
Etc...

5 fahrer mit unteschiedliches gebliebenes energie
4 mit gleiches gebliebenes energie

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:18 am
by Ronson
Rundungsfehler?

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:54 am
by Buhmann
Beim alten Design wird bestimmt abgeschnitten, beim neuen gerundet. Eigentlich gut so wie es jetzt ist also.

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:27 am
by auxilium torino
i don't want open a new thread

Adolfo have no helper the whole race, and still standing with 1000 energie
but riders with helper lost very much energie
???

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:12 am
by Buhmann
Were the riders in the samge group?

You play with the old dsign (or with a mix), right?

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:29 am
by auxilium torino
no, now i play only with new design
and the riders with problem was in same group!
with red tempo, Adolfo lost no energie, but wenn tempo was blue, start to lose energie...

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:38 am
by Buhmann
Ok, not the whole race. He is one of your best climbers, that could be the reason. And you should have only one race window open to see always the right state of your tactics.

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:41 am
by auxilium torino
but was a 80 or more in tempo and was 50 or more flat km...
and Bargnani is very similary riders, with help lost 200 energie...maybe hier is the problem

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:11 am
by Buhmann
Sounds if there were other settings set then shown. But you have not used the old design and not opened a second race window?

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:28 am
by auxilium torino
open was only the new one, i have a sitter the first 20 km., but helper was the same...after the first hill, adolfo hat 950 energie, and after downhillwas with 990(+-)...
was without helper, Bargnani still with helper, and Bargnani lost energie, Adolfo win to 1000, and still 1000 to km. 180(+-).
tempo was green or red!
at km. 180 Lulu make 4-5 km. in blue, and Adolfo start to lose energie

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:11 am
by Buhmann
Then the tempo was so low before, that he don´t lost energy.
But sounds strange anyway.

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:35 am
by auxilium torino
yes, with green maybe not very strange,but tempo was some km. also red, and i still with 1000...only with blue, adolfo lost some energie

but for me is ok...at least, we have Doping in RSF
Adolfo is the first doped rider in RSF... :?

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:46 am
by auxilium torino
ok, the problem still...for 2 days, i have Visconti, Doan and Bud with one helper, all 3 lose more enrgie as others riders without helper.
another strange fact, not my race, but a friend.
with a 86 mountain, 100 form energie 990: cannot follow the attack of a 87 mountain in mountain
but one 83 can follow :?
if there is not a bug, is a big error in programm!
for more km. the 86 with 2 helper lost more energie as the helper...and this uphill!!!


another argument:
i ride with A 62-77 and B 57-76 in a group.
for 3/4 of the race ride with both togheter(Up, flat and Downhill), rider B lost 20 energie more!
i change the tactic, put rider B to help rider A, for 2-3 km. downhill, and after i put rider B another time in tempo(ever with:yes togheter).mountain is Crostis:
rider A lost 250 energie...rider B lost 500 energie...in 15 km.!!!
is this normal???

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:16 am
by Buhmann
You are the only one who has püroblems with the energy :) There should be all correct.

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 11:56 am
by auxilium torino
no, i'm not the only...te second example is not mine!
but another italian that cannot english, and ask to me, why that..other more tell me the same!
please controll...
and i cannot beleive that 500 energie in 15 km. is normal! :shock:

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 6:18 pm
by Buhmann
Maybe he had to fight. Should be normal. The mountain with 15% and so on?

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 6:40 pm
by auxilium torino
i ride some mountain, but i have no lose 500 energie, with red tempo, fight and more!
and difference are only 5 points, no 20.

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:35 pm
by auxilium torino
i still not understand.

today a rider with value 70-82-7x form 96(energie 950)attack at -3
one rider 72-81-7x follows
after 1 km. both make tempo, and the first rider cannot take relay

while riders are similar, both must have the same energie(maybe 10-20 points difference),i still don't understand, what happens, why the riders lost in 5 km.(after the attack)200 energie???

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:47 pm
by Buhmann
Which km? I would take a look at this.

But: Accept the energy. You need not be able to calculate all. I changed since month nothing with the energy, so there should not be any bugs.

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:59 pm
by auxilium torino
no, i think i find the bug

is not the first time
one riders ride 200 km. without helper(59 flat), only 6 km. used as helper.at end, ended in first group, with 925 energie
in the same 6 km. the other riders lost 200 energie
for sure this is the bug...i have more time the same problem, maybe a little bug in the tactik, or similar

ok, i don't understand 100% energie, but i understand very good mathematik, and i understand that one helper cannot lose 0 energie after 100 km.(adolfo), or a riders with 59 flat cannot have after the fourth stage suisse 925 energie without helper...
i got for sure, that are bug...

Re: Energie nach dem rennen

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:17 am
by Buhmann
I don´t get the point. What is the bug? can you or another explain me? (German would be okay here, too.)