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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by team fl » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:26 am

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RSF Classics for the offseason calender 2018

Nominate races for the offseason calender as RSF/C4F Classics! They have to be ridden at least once in the game's history!

The following number is needed:

October (0)

November (6)
- GP Brescia, cat. 3
- Lanzarote, cat. 3
- Coimbra, cat. 2
- San Francisco, cat. 2
- Villalba GP, cat. 2
- Yamaniguey, cat. 2

(+ Okinawa, cat. 2)

December (10)

- Kisoro Kabale, cat. 3
- Pavés de Noel , cat. 3 (-> Koenigsberg Winter Classic)
- Makete Kylea, cat. 2
- Pattaya, cat. 2
- Colombo, cat. 2
- X-Mas Islands, cat. 2
- Bethlehem, cat. 2
- Tour de Herne, cat. 2
- La St. Sylv, cat. 2
- La Mt. Sylv, cat. 2

(+ GP FECOCI, GP Comitee Olimpici Nationale, both cat. in Costa Rica, both cat. 1).

January (2)
- GP Letzebuerg, cat. 3
- Wallis et Futuna, cat. 3
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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:24 pm

Mmh, no you put all in, and cut Mosell? :lol:

I kind of liked the "start from 0" we have to repropose those from last year option too.
Anyway, GP de Chelly, Donkey a big fan.
And as proposed at the end of last season, Napier Bluff Hill circuit.

As for Pavé de Noel, Koenigsberg? I'd say no, historically Pavé de Noel has had a different parcours each year, I'd say keep that tradition.
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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by team fl » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:21 pm

Let's call them placeholder.
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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:47 pm

Robyklebt wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:24 pm

And as proposed at the end of last season, Napier Bluff Hill circuit.
Agree!
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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by Pokemon Club » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:35 am

Just disagree with the fact that Herne and Pave de Noel (strange idea to ride Koninsberg, in Russia, in December anyway) are the only cobbles races

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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by team fl » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:33 am

Pokemon Club wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:35 am
Just disagree with the fact that Herne and Pave de Noel (strange idea to ride Koninsberg, in Russia, in December anyway) are the only cobbles races
Feel free to propose races. And if you look at the latest offseason calender draft, you see that there are spots reserved esp. for pavé races.
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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by team fl » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:48 am

Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:47 pm
Robyklebt wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:24 pm

And as proposed at the end of last season, Napier Bluff Hill circuit.
Agree!
Napier Bluff Hill Circuit in at Thursday 3 January.
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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by Robyklebt » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:52 pm

Pokemon Club wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:35 am
Just disagree with the fact that Herne and Pave de Noel (strange idea to ride Koninsberg, in Russia, in December anyway) are the only cobbles races

And for pave races it is simply, there was nearly no pave races in Asia or Africa.
That was somebody's reaction to a similar complaint in 2016!
Of course there are some differences. In 2016 the charge was correct. In 2018 it isn't.

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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by Pokemon Club » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:20 pm

There is cobbles in America, there is dirty road everywhere, there is Mosell Cup

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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by team fl » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:47 pm

Can you please change your signature. It's annyoing as hell. And what was the message again?
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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by Pokemon Club » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:03 pm

Pokemon Club wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:35 am
Just disagree with the fact that Herne and Pave de Noel (strange idea to ride Koninsberg, in Russia, in December anyway) are the only cobbles races

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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by Robyklebt » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:08 pm

Robyklebt wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:52 pm
Good thing nobody is trolling here!!
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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by GreenMotion » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:00 pm

no Andes this year?

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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:18 am

Andes already designed (see Fantasy Races) and planned in the calendar (see FL's table in Suggestions for the off-season) ;)
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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by team fl » Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:22 am

Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:18 am
Andes already designed (see Fantasy Races) and planned in the calendar (see FL's table in Suggestions for the off-season) ;)
And here are the links, if anyone wants to have a look at it:

Andes:

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5500

Latest draft of the offseason calender (Andes are in November, as usual):

viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2864&p=98459#p98456
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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:29 pm

Already nominated a bit before, now my complete nomination post. So ignore the one before, the ones nominated will be nominated here again.

The number in parenthesis is what cat they were last year, not an endorsement of same cat for this year necessarily.
Of the classics from last winter Donkey nominates

Coimbra (2)
Lanzarote (3)
GP Canyon de Chelly (3)
Colombo-Agampodigama (2)
Makete-Kylea (2)
Papeete TTT (2)
Boucles de Wallis et Futuna (3)

Many of the other races are ok too for the Donkey, but those here are the ones he likes best.

He is opposed only to 2 of them really.

Mosell, the name, etc. mentioned 100 times
Pattaya, -1 finish for a sprint race, incomplete track, grr! Sprint races at higher cat are needed too, but IMO not this one.

New
Napier Bluff Hill Circuit.

I have some other possible new proposals.. some of races I didn't actually ride but look interesting, some of races I rode that were good but not as good as Napier. But wait with that for the moment. We need more people proposing!
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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by Hunsrueck » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:43 pm

Hunsrueck wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:33 pm
Robyklebt wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:04 am
Of course it's allowed and even encouraged to write proposition for the 2018/2019 winter classics already now here too. After all when September/October 18 comes around we'll all mostly have forgotten what races where cool/uncool.

Races that you think don't need to stay "RSF classics"
Races that you think should become "RSF classics"
Since 2012 the race San Benito - Matagalpa was in the decenber calender. the calenderking from last year put it out. Why?
Can we have this race for classic back?

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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by Robyklebt » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:37 am

Should be in the plan...

Only race you have an opinion on?
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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by Robyklebt » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:39 am

For those riding the one day races.
Nominate for 2018/2019 winter. Better nominate now if you think a race was good, and should be ridden again (as cat 2) next winter. By Sept/Oct when this topic will come alive again, you'll have forgotten..
Or if there's a cat 2 race and you think it's not deserving to be ridden again, nominate for deletion!
Cat 2 race you think is absolutely brilliant, should be cat 3? Nominate!
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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by CircleCycle » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:53 pm

I hereby nominate GP Pattaya to get either cat.4 because it is so brilliant, or to get cut in next winter. It doesn't deserve to be ridden as a cat.2!

And what a fantatic track has Dolisie - Point Noire btw? Instand classic! At least for next year! Praise the designer. Also Huya - Cyangugu looks very nice, maybe let Gipfel first check if every km has the right slope before I'd nominate that one too! (both ridden in Dez 2017!)

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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by Hunsrueck » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:17 pm

Robyklebt wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:37 am
Should be in the plan...

Only race you have an opinion on?
Bafu GP was 2016 cat 3 then out.
Yaounde Race
GP of San Diego
Taca Sebutal
Casablanca - Kraoucha
Grand Prix de Agadir cold be classics

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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by CircleCycle » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:35 am

some suggestions

Hobart Hills 12.01.2019

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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by Mangahn » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:21 pm

CircleCycle wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:35 am
some suggestions

Hobart Hills 12.01.2019
+1

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Re: RSF Classics for the offseason calender

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:13 pm

Offseason classics 2019/2020

Works as usual, if you liked a race in the past years and would like to ride it again, nominate it here. And if you disliked a race with cat 2 or 3 we races last offseason, nominate it here to be kicked.
Non-European races mostly please... North European ones can be re ridden, but more likely in the season and as cat 1, southern European ones could be ridden in November.

Classics last year.


03.11. GP Brescia cat 3 hilly
04.11. GP de Lanzarote cat 3 hilly
10.11. GP Coimbra cat 2 circuit, soft hills, max 5, sprint possible
14.11. San Benito Matagalpa cat 2 climbers, rather soft approach, 5 9 end
18.11 San Francisco classic cat 2 hilly
23.11 GP Canyon de Chelly cat 2 flat with late sieb 20 km from the end possible
25.11. Villalba GP cat 2 climbers
28.11. Yamaniguey - La Maquita cat 2 hilly

09.12. Colombo - Agampodigana cat 2 hilly
12.12. GP Pattaya cat 2 flat
19.12. Kisoro-Kabale cat 3 hilly
20.12. Makete - Kylea cat 2 flat
23.12. Pavés de Noël, cat 3, changing race, new route every year.
24.12. Christmas Island GP cat 2 hilly
25.12. GP Bet Lehem Nazareth cat 2 hilly
26.12.Tour de Herne cat 2 light pavé, light hills
31.12. Catania-Etna cat 2 mountain
31.12. La Saint Sylvestre cat 2 flat

01.01. GP Letztebuerg cat 3 hilly
03.01. Napier Bluff Hill Circuit, cat 2, hilly
06.01. Boucles de Wallis et Futuna, cat 3, hilly, sprint possible
09.01. GP de Papeete cat 2 TTT

Nominations we've already had:

OUT:
- Pattaya (CC and I join him) so 2

IN:
- Dolisie - Point Noire, 1
- Huya - Cyangugu, 1
- Bafu GP 1
- Yaounde Race 1
- GP of San Diego 1
- Taca Sebutal 1
- Casablanca - Kraoucha 1
- Grand Prix de Agadir 1
- Hobart Hills 12.01.2019 2

Number behind the race is the number of nominations. If I forgot some nominations... mention it.
And when nominating adding the date it was last ridden would be helpful, the type of race (roughly) too!

Anyway, nominate away, out ok (but cat 3 races can't go out completely, down to cat 2 first, UNLESS the designer and organizer announces that his race ran out of money and can't be held anymore (and if there's a mountain of protest even that might not be enough))
Change of category ok too. From cat 2 to cat 3 and the opposite.
Opposing races nominated by somebody else of course works too, both ways, both out as well as in.
Nominatations for races designed by the nominator himself get only 80% (or 90%? 99%? doesn't matter, less is less) of other nominations :lol:

And we can't have a HUGE increase in races, due to the later start of the real season in 2020 a few more would be ok, but not MANY more.
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