Races ridden as cat 1 can be proposed as cat 2
Cat 2 can be proposed as cat 3 or to be cut
Cat 3 can be proposed to be cut down to cat 2
Races that haven't been ridden yet, can't be nominated.
A minimum of 2 nominations are necessary to get the change of category. (For example GP Brescia now would have one down-nomination, if it gets a second one, it would be downgraded to cat 2) With big participation that could be more, but since usually we had very few people saying something 2 was already a huge number...
Opposition to a nomination is rather an unclear grey area, so somebody proposes race abcd, another one too, I find it horrible, can I say I'm against it and it counts as -1 nomination or not? Never really happened, (not that there aren't proposals that I'm opposed too, I just decided not to make my opposition public since it's a grey area what happens. )
Races in Europe, since we already have quite a few and really would be nice to have them in other places, I decided to put them in as cat 1 around the time they were first ridden, in the case of Denain Huy in May. And then forgot a year later... IMO makes sense instead of filling the offseason calendar with more European races.
Anyway, that's how it worked the past years, up to you to decide how it will work from now on.
Under leso it was all less formalized, usually somebody just saying I liked that, was enough and leso put it in.
Under Pokemon it was he that decided everything by himself, kicked all the old ones, created a bunch of new high cat races (which can't be cal classics) and went on to insult people who didn't agree with his decision.
Up to you how to do it now.
Okinawa: It's a real 1.2 race in Japan in November usually. Normally cat 1, but was made cat 2 because it's a real race during a time when there are no other real races. For me cat 1 would be ok actually.flockmastoR wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:11 pmI am a bit confused, when I look at the FL list of fantasy classics and compare it to the real calendar. In November 2022 there have been additional cat 2+ races like "Tour de Okinawa" and "Taca Setubal". Were these RSF classics or did they just get a wrong category at that year? (Didn't check any other month right now).
Taca Setubal: I've proposed to cut that for years I think, or maybe I gave up at some point. A while ago it seemed that Gipfel agreed, quoted my post and said agreed, so it was 2 nominations for out with Taca Setubal and down to cat 2 with GP Lanzarote. Which seems to have happened in 2022, I can't find Taca Setubal in November 22....? And Lanzarote was down to cat 2.? Maybe I'm senile and too stupid to see it? Sure you didn't look at 2021?`
FL is notoriously unreliableGipfelstuermer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 8:18 pmIt's also new to me trying to manage the selection. I also notice FL reserved 13 spots for RSF Classics, but mentions 20 spots from last year plus other car2+ races you discovered. Are additional spots fixed more spontaneously? Was the offseason longer? Or more densely planned?.... Ok, looked it up. Last year 18 planned in the off-season preview, then 20 (or more) ridden. Now only 13 planned.
Sometimes he forgets to put in some, sometimes he forgets that others have been kicked. The FL preview as he always repeats himself is just a general overview, idea, inspirational, a starter to the discussion. Sometimes the Donkey put in the wrong category (Dolisie Pointe Noire a few years ago as cat 1 instead of 2, otherwise think I usually managed) Basically you have to keep track of nominations in this thread, then you have the number of off season classics.
AS for the GP Brescia, ok, you don't like it. But it has ZERO to do with the Trofeo Citta di Brescia. Same city, that's all. We can only design fantasy races in places where there are no real ones? And of course the whole season opener thing is pointless marketing, Laigueglia is the Italian season opener. But isn't always the first race. Marseille the french season opener. Omloop Het Nieuwsblad the Belgian season opener. But neither is the first race in the calendar, all pointless marketing. We don't really need an "off season opener" substance over buzzwords!
I loooove the GP Brescia, LCB was simply a superb designer.
See you in the afternoon for it!
Probably that's one of the reasons in the end I never switched anything, having them in a fix month, more or less, is somehow nice too. November is Chelly-month! etc.