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Re: New riders

Post by Eagle » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:37 pm

New young riders in February:

Climbers:
- Edwin Tejeda (Hansa-Team) with 75-51-75-53-47 and 54reg. is the only one with good leader chances. But he misses two times the time trial training, Hansa off?
- Some others good climbers (4 climbers with 75 54+ 70+), but no time trial, so only climbers and not really gk-rider at tours with time trial.

Huber:
- Krischan with two, but no names and they would be sold in future, like the last Hubers in his team.

Rider against the time:
- Eric Kripke (Rockstar Inc) with 52-63-79-79-56 but only 35reg. Good rider for single time trials, maybe more reg would be good for tours, but we will see.
- Hessem Radinescuoi (IleDeFrance or rideformoney) with 57-67-64-79-61 and only 36reg. This will be a good classic time rider, but he needs a team to be a real winner. Sprint is really good to win some extra time at sprints, but reg and flat isn't the best, so he need a team to ride for him.

Sprinter:
- Luigi Villoresi (TT Sports) with 48-59-47-59-84 and reg 48. If he trains very well, TT would be the a good team for him, else he must go, but we will see.
- Isidor Golicyn (Moscow Team Pro) with 49-60-77-50-84 and 38reg. Very good values but with 3mio very expensive, we will see if he is worth it.
- Carlos Bocanegra (Tulpengeneral) with 51-59-47-51-83 and 50reg. With 2mio very cheap and maybe he will get a good 60...90er.

Classics:
- Pieter Botha (Deuseburger) 57-73-70-55-66 with 52reg and 75 cobblestone. Nice values and the cobblestones can let him win some classics, but maybe he will be to young there.
- Sergey Stepanov (IleDeFrance or rideformoney) 58-76-50-58-64 and 43reg. Nice helper for Hessem and can be a captain at classicraces, but no downhill and more reg would be good.
- Lot of other good classics

Last but not least the best rider in February:
- Charlie Chaplin (Bergzwerk) 58-74-79-79-49 and 48reg. Perfect values and if he trains like this, he will be rider of the year 2013.
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Re: New riders

Post by cataracs » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:40 pm

RideForMoney was IleDeFrance not ile something
Paddy Madden is cool too

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Re: New riders

Post by Eagle » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:42 pm

ok ^^
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Re: New riders

Post by Pokemon Club » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:33 pm

Alkworld wrote:
Pokemon Club wrote:This Chiotis looks really, really strong. And this Kyle, what an unlucky man ! It is amazing !
The guy wanted to play this loser role only until Roby's post. Now he doesn't stop training ;)
It is the last time I talk about unlucky training riders of others teams I think

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Re: New riders

Post by IDF » Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:40 pm

- Hessem Radinescuoi (IleDeFrance or rideformoney) with 57-67-64-79-61 and only 36reg. This will be a good classic time rider, but he needs a team to be a real winner.

MY TEAM IS PERFECT.


Oh wait... :(
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Re: New riders

Post by Robyklebt » Sat May 04, 2013 9:46 am

Ok, new young stars for May.

but first a view to the old guys.
September: Melotte a star now. Flèche and Liège-. Kyle doing ok, very complete, 85 mountain now, so is ok finally. Not good but ok. The third climber, Machado is a waste, a 82-71, good, no sprint, a waste. Still got 3 wins...

Sprinter, Pinder 50-59-92, not too good training, only 3 wins, a disappointment.
Classics, Cunningham doing good in training, 74-81, 3 wins, but pretty much a shit race collection 52 sprint clearly doesn't help VanImpe 8 races, Amstel one of them, so clearly another star. But not the serial winner that I kind of expected, but the Kwick focus is on different things now. Alexandrow 75-81 now, excellent man, and often helper for Dedekind (who has the same age but wasn't deemed worthy enough to be included here... grrr) 2 wins, 1 stage race. As leader could be more, but with Dedekind.... logic.

Classics:
Colin Cunningham 59-77-75-46-52 with 41 reg. Rockstar. 69-81-74-46-52, 429 points, 1 win. Not perfect mountain training, but still a lot is possible with 25. Too early to tell really, but looks ok, and one win so far, good.

Romelu VanImpre, 58-71-66-47-67 with 36 reg. 69-73-66-47-74. 451 points, one race win. Kind of expected more, but then don't really know how early classic sprinters start winning, maybe that's only once they reach 70+ mountain. Potential to become a serial winner still there. Training ok I guess, at least looks good to me.

Pawel Alexandrow 59-76-79-71-56 with 41 reg. Radunion. 72-81-79-70-56. PERFECT mountain training.. excellent. A star. The TT still tragic though, but good, seems not to be covered. 394 points, one race win. Very expensive rider of course, that TT really hurts.. but ok, with that TT he will be a potential contender in certain stage races too. The future.. .all depends on the training now, but chances to become an absolute monster are there.

The January boys. Now 25


- Marco Zanin: 56-74-73-53-48. 37 reg and 71,9 pavé. Ariostea Now 63-84-74-53-48. 78,2 pavé, 2 eternal points. Training as a helper, riding litte since after 3 more active months Ariostea seems to be back in inactive mode.
- Michiel de Ruyter: 56-73-73-57-51, 45 reg. NoPikouze 71-80-73-57-51 now. Excellent training, only missed 1 mountain training. Looks like together with the awesome Remus Avranescu he could be a very strong attacking classics duo soon. Or help for that hill sprinter...428 eternal points, that will obviously grow soon.
- Dionysis Chiotis 55-72-79-48-55. 37 reg, 73,5 pavé. 66-80-78-48-55 Mountain training.... not really superb. Flat on the other hand good, which gives him 79,1 pavé. His mistake? Joining Chartreuse. At 23 he trained all flat, went up to 81. At 24 obviously all on mountain... and lost flat and downhill. Should have kept going mountain.. or risk at 23, yes, E3, Flanders, but he was never going to be a real favorite there, to young. Just go for mountain primarily at 23, at 70-78 or so long term he'll be better than 66-81. with 55 sprint he's ok there too.


- Riccardo Corvaglia 55-68-78-77-48, 52 reg. Vagaderi. 69-68-77-84-48. Looks ok. Of course compared to NoPik training monsters.... but +14 mountain at this point seems good to me. He's succesful too, U23 TT world champion. Now come the decisive months for him.. .can he go up to 7x mountain and be a real contender?
The climbers:
- Kevin Dumas: 73-55-73-49-55, 59 reg. LARAPANA. 85-59-73. Won Catalunya, all ok. Looks promising for TdF, Vuelta and Andes, maybe still too young for the Giro.. but then no idea where and against whom Larapana will ride. One of the stars of that generation so far
- Moritz Rixdorfer: 73-56-79-48-56, 62 reg. rsc bouletten. 81-60-79 Already missed one at 21, so some risk taking there.. and then loses more at 22, so risk there again. What for? 59 flat is good, no risk, just go. He should be higher now, 80 at 22 is guaranteed if you take no risk, it seems he reached it with 24? Yep, 23 he was unlucky if I interprete that graph right, still, before it's the trainings regimes fault. Too much risk. Like this... either he explodes late, or he won't be much after all.
- Markel Olaritzu: 70-56-74-63-50, 53 reg. L RSV. He's without a team, and can be forgotten. But another case of wanting too much?

Hubers:
- Teko Hope 67-53-63-72-51, 45 reg. Doing well 83-53-62-76-51. 5 youth jerseys and the GC Pais Vasco. THE star of this group. Now the GTs, with Jim Songezo a 84 climber with 59 reg in the team, downhill and all there. A bit weak in the mountain, but could still be enough to challenge for wins in the GTs. We'll see.

Sprinters:

-Jimmy Somerville 49-55-69-51-82, 42 reg. Bergwerk. 49-58 and 93 sprint. Good training, looks promising. 4 wins already.. but 2 of them in Langkawi, where no self respecting managers shows up... brr Still, good complete sprinter, even without further training he should be able to break the 10 win barrier. Depending on the new sprint system of course.
- Mathieu Deroy: 48-56-47-52-81, 37 reg. Gaurain. 49-59 and 92 sprint. One sprint less, 2 wins less, but a bit more important ones.. at least one. Looks good too. But he would need another point to become more like a star.
- George Orwell: 48-59-50-59-81, 44 reg. Alkworld. 50-62 and 87. Not really dream training for him. Now training to be the sprinter for difficult races according to Alk. And, training to be the perfect man for the new sprint? Ape analysis says: Train is the most promising approach Top sprinter as before. nr 2: Less sprint, more flat. So that it's possible to keep him fit easier. nr 3, a sort of a Villa type, or maybe a bit less flat, more sprint goes too. 86-70 or 80-78 both ok. ORwell looks like he could become a perfect Anfahrer.
- Axel Hurtig: 48-59-67-47-81, 50 reg. rsc bouletten, 92 sprint, 50-60 sideskills. 0 eternal points. Bouletten not riding much, but even then he should have more points than that....He looks ok, can have success, if he rides.

Ok, the new ones now:

Climbers:
- Alexandre NeigedeSavoie: 73-55-75-48-58 and 53 reg. Very nice climber, but looking at Chiotis. Wrong team? Let's hope the training here is done better! Then he could develop into a nice climber. Good sprint, but too much reg IMO for a 80-70?
- Wei Jingsheng: 73-51-71-52-49, 55 reg. Gismo. For my taste either not enough down or flat, like one of them higher.... but with the 52 TT and the reg still a good prospect.

Stop here, the francais guy interesting too, but ok, tired already

Classics: Whole armies there...

Pieter Poland 56-73-79-51-56, 54 reg. Too much reg for my taste, otherwise almost perfect. 2,099 market value, payed 2,5.
Vasja Valvasor: 56-74-78-55-58, 41 reg. And 70,1 pavé Not even I have anything to complain here. 1,958 market value, 2,582 payed. Ok, the price, but if you wanted that guy you had to overpay obviously.
Giuseppe Peano: 56-72-78-51-43, Radunion. A helper clearly, but a strong one. MV 1,703, 2,1 payed
Alberto Modesto 56-73-77-48-51 TopGun. And 70,9 pavé. D6 guy, so only payed the value, 1,819. What was the plan with weakening the D6 youth riders a bit? Something that Buh has been reminded of 100 of times? Strong guy clearly. Just shouldn't exist.
There are more, but either no name yet, or just like those here better.
Classics with sprint:
Pedro Saramago, 56-73-67-60-64, 58 reg. escartinos. MW 2,439, payed 2,850. IMO too much. Already with REG and TT I think he is too expensive, but then overpay for him as well? What to train? Mountain clearly. flat and downhill no. TT? no. sprint? Yeah, but 58 reg for a sprinter? Don't know really what to do with such a guy, well, I know, don't buy him. We'll be interesting to see what becomes of him
Jacob Quaekernaeck: 55-72-51-54-64, 42 reg. NoPikouze. MW 1,871, payed 2,015. Good good, very good buy. Price wise and what he can become. The lack of downhill of course can hurt sometimes, but with the classic army NoPIk is building. Fantastic rider. Can be in the train for the hill sprinter, can become an occasional winner. Depends a bit on the training too. Going for sprint, he can become more than just the normal 63-67 guys who can win sometimes.

Sprinter

Ibai Letxundi 50-59 with 80 sprint, L RSV D6 guy, here ok, only 80 sprint fits IMO. Excellent secondary skills

Other sprinters not good enough or no name or not in teams that I know, or find worthy of commenting. Plus enough anyway.... so I won't even look for LEupolds or Hubers.. ah now, short look.No no, nothing interesting enough.

Generally: An immense classic generation. There are x other riders that could appear here too, classics. Much less in other specialities.
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Re: New riders

Post by sylvainmeteo » Sat May 04, 2013 12:03 pm

Kurzejewski not here? bahhh :P started 72/55/69 and now 80/62/69
The Bjorkman brothers from GUDE LAUNE are interesting too
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Victoires d'étape : 374 ; dont les 5 monuments et les 3 GTs !
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Re: New riders

Post by IDF » Sun May 05, 2013 1:06 am

News from Hessem and Sergey :

Hessem : 67-67-64-81-61 24 y.o
Sergey : 69-79-50-58-65 24 y.o :)
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Re: New riders

Post by ariostea » Tue May 14, 2013 9:46 pm

Roby:
Marco Zanin: 56-74-73-53-48. 37 reg and 71,9 pavé. Ariostea Now 63-84-74-53-48. 78,2 pavé, 2 eternal points. Training as a helper, riding litte since after 3 more active months Ariostea seems to be back in inactive mode.
Zanin: a typical 70-85-try... you have to be lucky with flat at 22 and 23 otherwise looks like that...
Ari will may be back from next week for some races, but not sure yet... let´s see.

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Re: New riders

Post by IDF » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:46 pm

Hi guys , little up ! I will make my selection for the best new young riders this month ( ok 20 days/30 but.. )


According to me , the best youngs are : ( after 3 trainings!)


Climbers

Christian Vallet (Bigoudins D6) : Young jersey's winner in Switzerland . Good helpers for the future ( young team ) but not a big team for flat at the moment.. 1016 pts .
Stats : 74-56-61-63-58-56-65 reg
Sultan Saladin (Team Radeberger D5) : 0 races now but a good stats. Buy 3.5M by Rade. Perfect for mountain stages but not for a GK with TT... Nice sprint skill and reg too.
Stats : 76-56-79-48-55-53.3-57 reg
Maybe Laurens Ten Dam from Once-Team but i think it will be use like a helper for Carl , his huber.

Classics

Pieter Vanspeybrouck (Unicef WWF D1) : Good skills for him with a nice manager. A future star? Maybe , he can. The new TVA ? 2.2M MV , payed 2.9M. 43 pts
Skills : 59-75-67-65-65-69-39 reg
Jelle Wallays (Unicef too) : Good pave skill for a classic rider... 1.9 M MV , payed 2.5M !
Skills : 58-75-68-50-56-72.6-47 reg
Tomas EstradaPalma (Alkworld D1) : Strong pave guy.. OMG. With one of the best managers... a crack ! 9 pts Payed for his price
Skills : 58-76-50-50-55-77.2-39 reg
Nunung Burhanudin (Team Indonesia D4) : Amazing guy for the team , he can win little tours but the big problem is a team... one guy at the moment for help him for " hard " races... payed 2.85M
Skills : 59-70-74-80-45-62.5-56 reg

Guys against the trial

Marcelo Gracès (Auxilium Torino D3) : A nice guy can help easily with his good flat skill . Good reg for ride ( for the sprinter ) , for chain stages , nice guy. He will win maybe the white jersey in Elektrotoer (24h) against.. the new one. 271 pts . 2.54M MV , payed 2.42M
Skills : 51-74-63-80-46-68-63 reg
Ante Snjezana (RideForMoney D1) : Ok it's my rider.. Objectively , he has a good flat skill but contrarily to Marcelo , he has " only " 48 mountain , can be siebed in 5% ... But otherwise , nice skill in sprint for take bonifications against his opponents... Already one win.. for his first race in Switzerland. He took different jersey during 4 jours so he has so many pts.. 346 pts , 1 stage win. Fight against Marcelo for white jersey in Elektro... 2.178M MV , payed 2.2M.
Skills : 48-74-51-80-62-68.3-38 reg
And the two teamschleck's (D6) riders but maybe too weak...

Sprinter

Nuno Rosado (Mourao D3) : Nice skills , a good manager for sprints but a bit expensive , nice " mélange " :) ?
Skills : 50-60-73-53-84-57.6-49 reg 2.3M MV , payed 2.45M


This was my choice , maybe you will be agree with me , or not , go discuss here :) , have a nice day ;)
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Re: New riders

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:12 am

I try a different format for once:
Just the 21 year old of D1 teams, start from the top, stop when I'm tired:

Gaurain: Frank LeTerrible. The name says it all. Did SM hack him and buy that guy? No no, pretty good, solid flat helper. 48-71-69-49-50 with 44 reg. Maybe a better one, 74 flat would have made sense, Gaurain risks running out of top flat riders soon. But this guy certainly is ok too, has downhill which never hurts, price ok, got him for 33k under market value. Good.

Alkworld: Manuel Azana, 53-74-77-53-52, 45 reg. 1,766 Market value, 1,818 payed. A bit weak in the mountain maybe, but it's Alk, he'll make something good of this guy. Flat power man or classic? We'll see. Both seems possible at this point

SM: Knew that was going to be fun:
- Gyozo Törok: 47-70-78-52-53, 54 reg 1,587, bought for 1,508
- Ladislas Zsombok: 49-71-72-53-45, 55 reg, 1,636, bought for 1,555
2 flat helpers with reg. Not even cheap, since they have reg. But really needed 2 of them? They look the same to me.. .one more downhill, one more flat and more mountain... mountain which probably will be irrelevant with those guys. Ok, maybe SM needs guys like this like Gaurain definetly needed a flat guy? No, of course not, SM already has 2 23 years old guys.. that look almost the same. One started 46-69-77 with 49 reg, the other is something different, no reg, no downhill, but pavé and sprint. But ok, SM now brought 2 guys that look the same as one 23 year old he already has. And, as everybody who follows SM even a tiny little bit knows, since every second sentence SM writes is about that, SM has over 10 millions in the bank. And then he had no better idea then to buy 2 flat helpers with reg? TWO? Why not a 74 flat guy with no reg, which is what he actually needs. One flat guy is getting old, the other has 59 mountain, makes him expensive, the third one shouldn't ride, since he has sprint and is important in the more than decent sprint train SM can build. Who exactly is supposed to keep the peloton together in 2 months? Those guys can go to 85 yes yes... but 88 is nicer. Or why not at least one of the 2 with some pavé? 69 start instead of 63, so can at least be decent helpers there too? Don't get it. Especially since he doesn't have any money problems at all... why go for 2 guys like that? OK, he still has a free spot, let's see if he'll use that one for July or save it for the big August purchase (48-70-75-50-50 with 50 reg?)

Nothing for RideforMoney, nameless guy for Radunion (refuse to analyse guys who don't have a name yet), next up
VeloPiemonte: 2 riders:
- Manlio Nochi: 51-62-70-50-60, 44 reg, 1,511, payed 1440
- Stefano deStefanis: 48-62-76-62-54, 39 reg, 1426, payed 1355
Ok, I really like SMs riders now. What is this? One maybe maybe I can kind of understand. NO money, want one anyway, ok, take that guy. But 2? What is it with those couple buys, SM 2 reg flat guys, he 2 62 heroes. Both are not completely useless.... Nochi can be something like a mini sprinter, which right now seems a bit less useful than it used to be, but ok, he can be a nice little 60-60 with 70+ sprint, brings money. The other one... TTT man? But for whom? Velo Piemonte has nothing that resembles a GC rider right now. Good flat riders, good 60-80, old good classics, no climber, no sprinter, old TT guy... and he buys those 2? Don't get the plan really. Buy cheap riders before you buy an expensive one? Because he would have needed a new classic IMO. OR TT guy. Or a sprinter, which would fit in pretty nicely, or a climber if he wants. But these 2 guys? Just to load others cheaply. You can find better riders that cost less for that, see the one Gaurain bought. Who as a plus can even do more than just load the leader. Weird people to be found in D1 anyway, not only SM but Velo too (and luckily RideforMoney didn't buy anybody, otherwise by now I might attempt suicide)

Rockstar:
Colby Lopez: 70-56-70-63-56, 62 reg. 3627, bought for 3464. Perfect 70 climber basically. Can be a hell of a leader. The question is more if that's what was needed. The Huber doesn't necessarily need a Co Leader, because that's what Lopez really should be. OK, maybe a case of "too nice to pass up", which is true. He is pretty perfect. Reg (not sure if those guys need that much, but probably doesn't hurt), downhill ("only" 70) the only possible "weaknesses". For the Huber, Garnier, probably a new Ghorbani, 80-70 or similar would have been more useful... or a guy like Lopez but without the own GC ambitions, just a "simple" 84/85 climber with reg to carry Garnier over mountains. But ok, certainly a very nice rider.

Bergwerk:
Phil Collins: 73-56-74-50-50 with 59 reg, a perfect Ape rider! Love him! Very nice. 3242, overpayed and got him for 3512, not sure how much would have been necessary, but seems a bit much? But then 3242 somehow seems very low for a guy of this quality... so finally ok. Anyway, very nice guy and what BW really needed as well. He probably needed that guy 1-2 months ago already. But like this nice for vuelta (22-23, learning), Andes (25), Giro 31 and Tour 33. Good rider, only Bergwerks taste in music has to be doubted.

Petit Singe: Ikhtiyor Tansykbayev: 55-74-71-51-47, 38 reg. 1638, payed 1974. Overpayed too. Nice rider, clearly the best 21 year old Usbek, and kind of what the team probably needed... Lots will depend on the mountain training, that's his strenght. Downhill a bit too little, reg 40-42 would have been better too, but if the mountain training (and flat) goes well a good rider, even if he was overpayed.

ONCE Jonathan Tiernan Locke: 56-74-52-50-51, 41 reg. 1691, payed 1621, good deal. The lack of downhill will not help, but for this price it's still a good buy. And fits in the team too IMO. Even if it's the second classic without downhill, nr 1 has 68 sprint, so for him a guy with downhill would have been good. But there's 2 of those in the team as well, so seems a good buy, especially for this price.

CircleCycle: Joar Lundwall 49-74-71-49-54 with 55 reg, 1707, payed 1692. could have too much reg, a flat rider certainly doesn't hurt here, but maybe not as much reg would have been ok too.In the beginning though very useful to have him with lots of reg, later if he trains well, let's say to 88... a bit useless then the reg.. .but maybe he won't train that far.

Nothing for Poke,
Rado, 2 guys, one still nameless:
- Robert Prygiel, 56-73-73-62-51, 49 reg, 2125, payed 2150. The new Szary! So a good buy. But of course not all riders train like him... if Robert doesn't deliver in training he risks ending up as an overpayed classic with too much TT. If it works.. new Szary. Ape not a big fan of TT+reg classics actually, but well, since Szary is world champion... but still, even with his supermountain skill, only 1 stage race won for Szary... lots of placements... so for GC this 6x probably not really enough, even with super training... but of course costs in salary. So.. ape not really convinced, but as I said, Szary world champion, try to make a second one then ok

Hansa nameless, Black Star nothing, FL nothing, Girl nothing, Suessem nothing, PTT nothing, next
Walbeck: Trai Duong 49-65-62-76-46, 36 reg. 1829, payed 1830. TT guy, maybe some more downhill to make him more complete would have been good. Otherwise just a TT guy that should bring money, no idea if he's good enough for win, probably yes if he trains well. A bit surprising maybe in the team, looks more like climbers and classics so far, no climber needed now, a classic wouldn't have hurt, but why not a TT guy? Seems good neough to me.

speed, escartinos, Iroise, Stevens, Rabo, ATB Hypo, TDX all nothing, next
Furpach 2 riders
- NIck Save 46-73-60-56-53, 48 reg 1474, payed 1435.
- Mick Tank, 50-51-67-54-82, 35 reg, 2111, payed 2110
Imo maybe overpayed a bit for both? I'd have tried with less, especially the sprinter, the 51 flat is a big weakness. Nick Save though ok, 48 reg, 73 flat, good. Mmh, maybe SM should have tried to buy that one? The big minus here thoug hthe names, he's lucky I'm not in the nations committee.... NAmes in Tuvalu are not english..... old research in my NC time showed that there's basically very few english names, guys that settled there a long time ago, the rest is basically some weird polynesian stuff... I'd take both nationalities away... not Tuvalu, but ok, not my job. Otherwise yeah, 2 ok riders. More doubts about the sprinter, especially since Furpach usually doesn't seem to have much confindence in his sprinter anyway...

Avaya, nameless guy.

Best rider: Phil Collins, beating out Colby Lopez by a small margin. Mostly 2 reasons: Collins a typical rider that the ape likes. 2 Colby somehow doesn't fit perfectly in the team.
Worst transfer campaing: Velo Piemonte, dominating SM, who gets a mention too of course, but Velo Piemonte absolutely dominated this one
Best Usbek: Tansykbayev!
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Re: New riders

Post by IDF » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:57 am

hmm SM still shit guys...
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Re: New riders

Post by Pokemon Club » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:22 am

Ah nice !

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Re: New riders

Post by Radomiak » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:33 am

@Robyklebt great job, I enjoy reading that very much. Its always interesting to see how other analyze buying riders, you can always learn a bit reading other point of view. However too bad i had this one guy nameless, but i bought him today at 6 or 7 am, so I couldnt name it earlier :P
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Post by Rockstar Inc » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:23 am

Robyklebt wrote: Rockstar:
Colby Lopez: 70-56-70-63-56, 62 reg. 3627, bought for 3464. Perfect 70 climber basically. Can be a hell of a leader. The question is more if that's what was needed. The Huber doesn't necessarily need a Co Leader, because that's what Lopez really should be. OK, maybe a case of "too nice to pass up", which is true. He is pretty perfect. Reg (not sure if those guys need that much, but probably doesn't hurt), downhill ("only" 70) the only possible "weaknesses". For the Huber, Garnier, probably a new Ghorbani, 80-70 or similar would have been more useful... or a guy like Lopez but without the own GC ambitions, just a "simple" 84/85 climber with reg to carry Garnier over mountains. But ok, certainly a very nice rider.
just a small explanation for all:
Garnier/Ghorbani are my "Test-GC-Duo" which i bought to get some more experience in riding for GC....flattours, pavetours...have some expirience...i lack a bit of expirience in hillier or mountainos tours...so these two give my information and show me some weakness i'll need to correct for the next year...i got some money left and in a few month i'll see ghorbani/garnier...even if they are still usefull then...to buy the complete entourage for Lopez and his GC campaign 2014...ok, i know Lopez is 33 at "Le Tour 2014", but we got the Giro to win...some one-week tours...and of course Dec-Tour and .....
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Re: New riders

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:38 am

Don't quote me. Ever.
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Re: New riders

Post by Rockstar Inc » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:14 pm

the old egg and chicken discussion...

if you don't want to be quote or if you don't want to get a comment in this case...just leave my rider out...if you mention the rider or my team...i'll explain some notes like in the post before...deal with it

i'm quiet happy if you delete my rider out of your post...then you can delete my comment too...
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Re: New riders

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:48 pm

NOthing to do with biology. Comment it without quoting me.
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Re: New riders

Post by Radomiak » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:59 pm

Robyklebt wrote:NOthing to do with biology. Comment it without quoting me.
What about me, can i quote you?
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Re: New riders

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:24 pm

You, of course.
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Re: New riders

Post by IDF » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:44 pm

Ante Snjezana (RideForMoney D1) : Ok it's my rider.. Objectively , he has a good flat skill but contrarily to Marcelo , he has " only " 48 mountain , can be siebed in 5% ... But otherwise , nice skill in sprint for take bonifications against his opponents... Already one win.. for his first race in Switzerland. He took different jersey during 4 jours so he has so many pts.. 346 pts , 1 stage win. Fight against Marcelo for white jersey in Elektro... 2.178M MV , payed 2.2M.
Skills : 48-74-51-80-62-68.3-38 reg
News from Ante : Skills : 48-74-51-82-62-68.3-38 reg

Nice training... and another victory in Austria .. against Hessem :) 757 eternal pts... nice ;)
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Re: New riders

Post by NoPikouze » Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:33 am

The new climbing star that everyone is talking of has alledgedly been seen with the manage of NoPikouze during the last days. Rumours say that he signed a 14 year contact with the team and will receive an astronomic salary.
His theoretical skills ? 89-60-75-50-58-58.2-56 :shock:
His main objective will of course be the Giro and also some classics.
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Re: New riders

Post by NoPikouze » Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:56 pm

Robyklebt wrote:I try a different format for once:
Just the 21 year old of D1 teams, start from the top, stop when I'm tired
So... the current teams in the top didn't buy anything almost.

-Astana :
Simon Yates 56 72 75 49 54 66.6 64 - Great classic imo, excepted the reg which is too high.
Alistair Slater 47 72 756 56 47 68.4 50 - Perfect flat rider and helper, with some reg, some tt, good enough pavé, and downhill.

-Rideformoney
Jade Kourklic 48 59 59 54 82 55.1 53 - nice sprinter, fits well into this sprintteam, to replace the 33 year old one I guess. Too much reg of course but he doesn't care with the shitload of money he has in his account. Nevertheless the whole team lacks flatpower, and the young riders have anaverage of 78 (85 at best). He will need to work on that.

-Furpach
Brad Second 49 64 66 46 64 61.3 35 - What the hell is this ? Ok for 1.35m he might become a 75 flat 75 sprint or something like that... Great rider, fits admirably well in this team.

-SM Team
Erik Gobervik 49 69 66 46 46 64.5 40 - For less then 1.2m, the usual sm rider. Perfectly useless for anything excepted helping and controlling the gap with the breakaway (40 reg is enough for him, since sm never puts a rider under orange energy!). One might wonder is this kind of rider is really what he needs though. Under 28 years old, the team has nothing with more than 82 flat !

-VeloPiemonte
Michele Orecchia 48 71 79 54 56 64.1 52 - Great flatguy, but too many sideskills, which made him cost 1.67m. Of course Piemonte is always riding very expensive, so I guess he doesn' care about that kind of stuff. Maybe there is a balance to find between him and SM...

-Liberty
Danhildur something 49 73 54 49 47 68.5 35 - Good flatguy, good helper on pavés. A libby rider obviously. Reg a bit low for my taste (especially with the energy reform coming!!)
Vilbergur something 52 74 49 51 64 71.6 39 - Looks like this will be a pavé leader, with 85 flat and 70 sprint ?

-Petit Singe
Michael Creek 50 59 56 58 82 55.1 42 - Nice skills for a sprinter, but who wants to buy that kind of rider anymore ? For 2.3m, bèèèh.

-Oxfam
Santiago Vergara 55 73 78 71 55 67.9 46 for 2.4m
Francisco Jaimes 54 74 74 53 53 65.3 48 for 1.9m
2 nice classic riders, i like them. With 2 young climbers in the team, those guys will be their support (with some TT and downhill). Great buys. Reg a bit low for my taste, in regards to the job they'll have to do.

-Nopik
Cornelis vanRavesteyn 73 54 75 48 58 54 56 for 3.15m
Will be nr 1 of rsf in 2014.

-Radomiak
Noname 55 70 76 57 64 63.7 44 for 2m - A classic with sprint but not enough flat to do anything than sucking and following. I hate that kind of shit. Not sure he's building a team for a KS, so probably it will just be a 70 77 76 with 65 sprint or some jerk like that. Berk.

-Lorient
Noname 56 72 60 56 50 71.4 41 - Standard classic with 56 but non perfect side skills. Result is hard to predict. He has a classic army though. And the pavéskill might make him a leader for the classics.

-Whereisthebluelake
Louison Galle 52 74 72 52 51 67.4 48 - Perfect flat rider and helper, or more likely a 60 85 kind fo guy. Great buy!

In conclusion, nobody bought a climber excepted me, whereas the month was perfect !
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Re: New riders

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:28 pm

Pffff

The ape payed 2,2 millions for his sprinter. Not 2,3!
Perfect month for climbers? No, they will be still young for the Giro. And 32 in September when there's nothing to do for them, unless you are classless and ride the Vuelta!
Ox's classics have too much reg, not too little! Especially the monstertt guy, not sure if that's just a simple helper either.

But good job anyway, thanks pikipiki
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Re: New riders

Post by sylvainmeteo » Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:35 pm

Like the 2 Oxfam guys :)
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