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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:20 am

Training 5.1.2021:
Andreas Nägele Berg: -1
Andreas Nägele Flach: -1
Andreas Nägele Abfahrt: -1
Andreas Nägele Zeit: -1
Andreas Nägele Sprint: -1
Ticio Bogarin Berg: -1
Ticio Bogarin Flach: -1
Ticio Bogarin Abfahrt: -1
Ticio Bogarin Zeit: -1
Ticio Bogarin Sprint: -1
Orhan Hikmet Berg: -1
Orhan Hikmet Abfahrt: -1
Orhan Hikmet Sprint: -1
Habib Belhassen Berg: -1
Felix Krankl Abfahrt: -1
Felix Krankl Zeit: -1
Felix Krankl Sprint: -1
Armand Brotcorne Flach: -1
Armand Brotcorne Sprint: -1
Samuel Lanz Abfahrt: -1
Fabian Messerli Flach: +1
Michele Apicella Berg: +1
Michele Apicella Zeit: -1
Joan Coderch Berg: +1
Mikhail Stakhanov Abfahrt: +1
Johann Löffel Berg: +1
Francis Quaghebeur Flach: +1
Nägele and Bogarin with the full down program, 39+38
Hikmet 3
Belhassen mountain
Krankl -3 but not the 2 more important ones, good
Brotcorne double down, flat included

32 or younger
Lanz loses downhill, no problem
Messerli another flat, nice, now 55-64 with 87 sprint
Apicella mountain! 86. And lost his extra TT, now 50
Coderch the mountain, good, 69-76 now, still perfect, excellent
Stakhanov another training finally, downhill.... now 49-79-74, while I said that we don't need him to train too well in flat, only 7 of 13 seems a bit worrying.
Löffel mountain, now 58 mountain 74 sprint, with risky training, 54%-59% now.
Quaghebeur just flat, has some mountain and downhill too, but flat is ok (and 95%, now 100)
Missing Moretti, 50-82%, stays at his 56-76, if he misses again in a week we'll go for safety flat.

Despite Moretti, thanks to Apicella!!! and Coderch a good training.
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Re: Training

Post by flockmastoR » Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:28 am

Training 5.1.2021:
Sebastian Hirschmoser Berg: -1
Arthur Rinderknech Berg: +1
Jacob Wolfowitz Flach: +1
Lance Fortnow Berg: +1
Lance Fortnow Flach: +1
Hm not good at all, Lance taking 2x 100%, Rinderknech 100%, Wolfowitz missing mountain and taking flat (going for 72% mtn, 60% flt)
Alexandros missing >60%, 10%, no Schöning
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Re: Training

Post by el Galactico » Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:44 pm

Training 5.1.2021:
Cristobal Yanez Berg: -1
Cristobal Yanez Sprint: -1
Rafael RuizCabal Abfahrt: -1
Felipe FloresNyuti Abfahrt: -1
Humberto Vega Flach: +1
Maxciel Pereira Berg: -1
Maxciel Pereira Abfahrt: -1
Maxciel Pereira Zeit: -1
Francisco Guerra Flach: +1
Francisco Guerra Sprint: +1
Taison Souza Berg: +1
Taison Souza Flach: +1

deMarchi missing so can't be a good training per se.
Wallnöfer also missing out in this super important month for both.

The rest is ok. Yanez keeps loosing mountain but flat is more important anyway.
Rafa + Felipe start their decline with loosing downhill. Acceptable! They will have to keep up like that.

Guerra in 5 trainings so far with flat +3, mountain +4, sprint +5. Very nice.
Souza with the expected double training.
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Re: Training

Post by Pokemon Club » Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:46 pm

Training 5.1.2021:
Sky Walker Flach: -1
Sky Walker Abfahrt: -1
Ricardo Milos Berg: -1
Ricardo Milos Flach: -1
Patrick Pachere Flach: +1
Patrick Pachere Abfahrt: -1
Tom Nook Flach: +1
Thierry Beauvue Flach: +1
Thierry Beauvue Sprint: +1
Kaede Rukawa Flach: +1
Hisashi Mitsui Berg: +1
Hisashi Mitsui Flach: +1
Adam Hlosek Berg: +1
Adam Hlosek Flach: +1
Ryota Miyagi Berg: +1
Beauvue double Flat/Sprint is good, 80-57-77-71-60 is nice. Tom Nook 75 flat ow good point too, Ryota first training and he missed 93%...lazy

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Re: Training

Post by Bear » Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:44 pm

Training 5.1.2021:
Pol Tarres Berg: -1
Blake Gutzeit Abfahrt: -1
Hamish MacDonald Abfahrt: -1
Joel Robert Berg: +1
Emil Johansson Sprint: +1
Wyn Masters Abfahrt: +1
Otokar Kotrba Flach: +1
Petri Pohjamo Berg: +1
Petri Pohjamo Flach: +1
Harry Everts Berg: +1
Harry Everts Flach: +1
Minus:
- Pol just mtn down with 35 is ok
- Hamish and Blake only negative training in downhill

Plus:
- Wyn takes downhill but no mtn or flat. Maybe he took the team idea too serious
- Emil trains sprint. was just to secure it. mtn or flat would be better
- Otokar flat, now 66% and 81flat, two more trainings with 23 would be very nice
- Petri and Harry with the double, very nice especially because I took no risk with flat

Missing:
- no high % missing. nice would have been some mtn trainings from Wyn and Emil

Bottom Line:
- ok training. no positive surprises but solid. downtrainings good.

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Re: Training

Post by L RSV » Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:51 am

Training 12.1.2021:
Enrique Sabater Berg: -1
Enrique Sabater Flach: -1
Enrique Sabater Abfahrt: -1
Enrique Sabater Sprint: -1
BacQuang Bong Berg: +1
BacQuang Bong Flach: +1
Niilo Loipinen Berg: +1
Ernesto Arboleda Berg: +1
Yembe Elikia Flach: +1
Igo Jasnic Flach: +1
Djevat Trkman Berg: +1
Djevat Trkman Zeit: +1
Finally Niilo is training again....

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Re: Training

Post by flockmastoR » Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:30 am

Training 12.1.2021:
Sebastian Hirschmoser Abfahrt: -1
Noah Harrison Abfahrt: -1
Alexandros Karatzoglou Berg: +1
Arthur Rinderknech Berg: +1
Jacob Wolfowitz Berg: +1
Lance Fortnow Berg: +1
Lance Fortnow Flach: +1
Ok one, Karatzoglou restarting training, now 60-65 with 78 sprint
Wolfowitz really doesn't like flat too much
Rest as expected
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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:21 pm

Training 12.1.2021:
Ticio Bogarin Berg: -1
Ticio Bogarin Flach: -1
Ticio Bogarin Zeit: -1
Ticio Bogarin Sprint: -1
Orhan Hikmet Berg: -1
Orhan Hikmet Zeit: -1
Orhan Hikmet Sprint: -1
Habib Belhassen Flach: -1
Armand Brotcorne Berg: -1
Armand Brotcorne Flach: -1
Armand Brotcorne Abfahrt: -1
Armand Brotcorne Sprint: -1
Fabian Messerli Zeit: -1
Tim Eiffel Sprint: -1
Joan Coderch Flach: +1
Johann Löffel Sprint: +1
Gorgonio Moretti Flach: +1
Francis Quaghebeur Berg: +1
Francis Quaghebeur Flach: +1
Francis Quaghebeur Abfahrt: +1
Bogarin -4, now 38 so ok.
Hikmet -3 at 37, keeps flat, nice.
Belhassen loses flat, at 36, so now 70-77, still ok.
Brotcorne shocked by Feitings retirement probably goes -4, keeps TT only. At 35 that's overdoing it a bit, but ok, the shock seems big.
Messerli and Eiffel lose their extra skills, Eiffel now 55 sprint so won't lose more. Messerli still has some TT to lose, 53 now.

+
Coderch, hoped for mountain, NOW he takes a flat, 7% covering. Nice too, better than nothing, but really hoped he gets the 70 mountain soon. With Faye stuck at 69 a classic with 72+ really necessary for my team.
Löffel takes the sprint, now 58-75 mountain sprint, training changed to mountain now, was risk before.
Moretti flat, 56-77 now, will train mostly flat now, 95%, to keep one unit and 25% for mountain. HOpe won't regret it.
Quaghebeur on the other hand seems relieved that Feiting is gone, triple, mountain 50, won't train that anymore now, flat 75 downhill 69, will keep the rest on downhill for the moment. Maybe later he can lose it again, since 70 or 68 won't matter that much.

Löffel, Moretti take one of 2, good, Coderch flat, so finally an ok training.
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Re: Training

Post by Bear » Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:13 am

Training 12.1.2021:
Pol Tarres Flach: -1
Blake Gutzeit Abfahrt: -1
Wyn Masters Berg: +1
Wyn Masters Flach: +1
Petri Pohjamo Flach: +1
Harry Everts Flach: +1
Minus:
- Pol just flat with 35years, ok
- Blake only dh with 34 years, ok
- no downtraining Hamish, brilliant

Plus:
- Wyn with mtn/flat double, perfect. now 83-60-79 with 24. not too bad.
- flat training of Petri and Harry as expected

Missing:
- Otokar misses 66% flat. can happen.

Bottom Line:
- very good training because of Wyn.

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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:11 am

Training 20.1.2021:
Ticio Bogarin Berg: -1
Ticio Bogarin Abfahrt: -1
Ticio Bogarin Zeit: -1
Orhan Hikmet Berg: -1
Orhan Hikmet Abfahrt: -1
Orhan Hikmet Zeit: -1
Orhan Hikmet Sprint: -1
Felix Krankl Berg: -1
Felix Krankl Abfahrt: -1
Felix Krankl Zeit: -1
Armand Brotcorne Flach: -1
Armand Brotcorne Abfahrt: -1
Armand Brotcorne Sprint: -1
Samuel Lanz Berg: +1
Samuel Lanz Flach: +1
Samuel Lanz Abfahrt: -1
Michele Apicella Abfahrt: +1
Joan Coderch Berg: +1
Mikhail Stakhanov Abfahrt: +1
Johann Löffel Berg: +1
Gorgonio Moretti Flach: +1
Francis Quaghebeur Flach: +1
Bogarin -3, good, but too late. Hikmet -4, keeps flat, nice. Krankl, and Brotcorne both -3

+ Lanz with a double... Mountain and flat! Outstanding. 56-87 now, Loses downhill, but who cares.
Apicella downhill, not the most important, but why not.
Coderch mountain, good, 70-77 now.
Stakhanov finally trains again, downhill. For him some flat to be a good pavé helper would have been nice at some point, still 49-79, but now 75 dwon.
Löffel the 100% mountain, now 59-69 with 75 sprint
Moretti flat: 56-78 now
Quaghebeur flat, 50-76

Lanz of course makes this good. If the new version had the right pavé thing I could even say how much he has there now....
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Re: Training

Post by flockmastoR » Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:57 am

Training 20.1.2021:
Noah Harrison Flach: -1
Alexandros Karatzoglou Berg: +1
Arthur Rinderknech Berg: +1
Jacob Wolfowitz Berg: +1
Jacob Wolfowitz Flach: +1
Lance Fortnow Berg: +1
Lance Fortnow Flach: +1
- just one but Harrison is the worst possible to downtrain
+ Alexandros nice, now 61-65 with 78 sprint
+ Wolfowitz nice double so 80 flat is not out of reach despite early dropping it
Rest are 100% trainings (or close like Fortnow flat with 93%)
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Re: Training

Post by Weezel » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:00 am

Training 20.1.2021:
Nicola Scinto Berg: +1
Toivo Tivalainen Flach: +1
Hermann Pernsteiner Berg: +1
Hermann Pernsteiner Abfahrt: -1
Valentin Götzinger Flach: +1
Valentin Götzinger Abfahrt: -1
Philipp Hofbauer Berg: +1
Philipp Hofbauer Flach: +1
Benjamin Eckerstorfer Berg: +1
Benjamin Eckerstorfer Flach: +1
A massiv up and down in this training!

Positive:

- Hofbauer taking the 7th double-training in a row, now 63/80 with 22 years - great!
- No downtraining by Mercado
- Scinto taking mountain with 2 %, but no real need to
- Pernsteiner taking suprisingly mountain, wasn't the plan
- Toivo and Götzinger taking flat

Negative:

- Ockers no mountain uptraining, stays at 70/82
- No sprint-training from Krog with 87 %
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Re: Training

Post by Bear » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:45 am

Training 20.1.2021:
Pol Tarres Berg: -1
Pol Tarres Abfahrt: -1
Pol Tarres Zeit: -1
Blake Gutzeit Sprint: -1
Hamish MacDonald Sprint: -1
Emil Johansson Berg: +1
Otokar Kotrba Flach: +1
Petri Pohjamo Flach: +1
Harry Everts Berg: +1
Harry Everts Flach: +1
Minus:
- Pol takes 3, not flat is nice but not imprtant. he will still retire soon
- Hamish and Blake only sprint, really nice

Plus:
- Emil takes mtn, 70-78 now. ok.
- high % trainings and Harry with mtn, 54-78 now

Missing:
- nothing I expected

Bottom Line:
- good training because of Emil and Hamish

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Re: Training

Post by L RSV » Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:51 pm

Training 20.1.2021:
Enrique Sabater Berg: -1
Enrique Sabater Abfahrt: -1
Enrique Sabater Zeit: -1
Enrique Sabater Sprint: -1
Lojze Logar Berg: -1
Ernesto Arboleda Berg: +1
Ernesto Arboleda Flach: +1
Yembe Elikia Flach: +1
Igo Jasnic Flach: +1
Djevat Trkman Berg: +1
Djevat Trkman Zeit: +1
Negativ: Niilo not training. Yembe only flat.

Positiv: Djevat double, Ernesto double!

neutral: Enrique, Some Flatties train flat from time to time. Bong could also have trained again, but after the double last training... I hope he does again next time

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Re: Training

Post by Weezel » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:45 am

Training 27.1.2021:
Davide Celestino Sprint: +1
Leevi Tivalainen Flach: +1
Constant Ockers Berg: +1
Hermann Pernsteiner Flach: +1
Fabian Steininger Flach: +1
Philipp Hofbauer Berg: +1
Philipp Hofbauer Flach: +1
Magnus Krog Sprint: +1
Benjamin Eckerstorfer Flach: +1
Holy shit, I'm shacking!
I think this was the best training ever.

Celestino takint sprint, is not at 80 - great!
His best helper Leevi takes flat, is now 64/85 with 63 sprint.
Ockers taking mountain, is now 71/82 with 26 years.
Pernsteiner takes the flat I waited the whole month, now 87 flat.
Eights double-training for Hofbauer, with 22 years he is at 64/81/75/54/57 - wow!
Krog takes sprint, now with 88 at the age of 22.
Also Steininger and Eckerstorfer taking flat.
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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:48 am

Training 27.1.2021:
Ticio Bogarin Berg: -1
Ticio Bogarin Flach: -1
Ticio Bogarin Abfahrt: -1
Ticio Bogarin Zeit: -1
Ticio Bogarin Sprint: -1
Orhan Hikmet Flach: -1
Orhan Hikmet Abfahrt: -1
Orhan Hikmet Zeit: -1
Orhan Hikmet Sprint: -1
Habib Belhassen Flach: -1
Habib Belhassen Abfahrt: -1
Felix Krankl Flach: -1
Felix Krankl Zeit: -1
Armand Brotcorne Berg: -1
Armand Brotcorne Abfahrt: -1
Mikhail Stakhanov Flach: +1
Johann Löffel Berg: +1
Johann Löffel Sprint: +1
Gorgonio Moretti Flach: +1
Francis Quaghebeur Flach: +1
Francis Quaghebeur Abfahrt: +1
5 Bogarin, 4 Hikmet, Belhassen keeps the mountain, so does Krankl. Brotcorne keeps flat.

+
Stakhanov wakes up and is at 80 now.
Löffel double, 100% mountain ,the sprint unexpected. 60-76 now.
Moretti flat, 79 now, 77,2 pavé
Quaghebeur flat and downhill.
Ok with that training
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Re: Training

Post by flockmastoR » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:07 am

Training 27.1.2021:
Max Simmer Flach: -1
Emir Bajramovic Flach: -1
Alexandros Karatzoglou Berg: +1
Arthur Rinderknech Berg: +1
Jacob Wolfowitz Flach: +1
Lance Fortnow Berg: +1
Lance Fortnow Flach: +1
Ok Training
The minus ones are ok, Max just needs some flat to follow, Emir still enough flat to be usefull

Fortnow with 4 doubles at the age of 21 -> 53-75 now
Wolfowitz with 2 Mountain and 3 Flat at the age of 22, also reached 80 flat at 22 and can concentrate now on Mountain (62-80 now)
Rinderknech with 4 Mountain at the age of 23 without taking the risk has 66-80 now
Karatzoglou with 3 Mountain at the age of 24 -> 62-65 78 Sprint now
Schöning completely missing, no flat and no covered side values, 50-85 at 24
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Re: Training

Post by L RSV » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:15 am

Training 27.1.2021:
Enrique Sabater Berg: -1
Enrique Sabater Zeit: -1
Enrique Sabater Sprint: -1
Lojze Logar Berg: -1
Lojze Logar Zeit: -1
Lojze Logar Sprint: -1
BacQuang Bong Flach: +1
Niilo Loipinen Flach: +1
Ernesto Arboleda Berg: +1
Yembe Elikia Flach: +1
Djevat Trkman Berg: +1
Djevat Trkman Flach: +1

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Re: Training

Post by Hansa » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:17 am

Training 27.1.2021:
Xherdan Emmenegger Berg: +1
Jochen Metzing Berg: +1
Levi Staldenried Berg: +1
Levi Staldenried Flach: +1
Urs Zwingli Berg: +1
Ludwig Langeleben Berg: +1
Lukas Suter Berg: +1
Lukas Suter Flach: +1

Xherdan 71-78 not ideal but ok
Jochen 88 Mountain with 24 sadly ist the one without TT Captain stays at 85
Levi double good 62-79 now
Urs mountain would have preffered flat but ok 57-79-77
Ludwig 62-79
Lukas 52-75-77 with 65 sprint
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Re: Training

Post by Bear » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:58 pm

88 with 24 :roll:

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Re: Training

Post by Bear » Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:03 am

Training 27.1.2021:
Pol Tarres Abfahrt: -1
Pol Tarres Sprint: -1
Blake Gutzeit Flach: -1
Emil Johansson Berg: +1
Otokar Kotrba Flach: +1
Petri Pohjamo Flach: +1
Harry Everts Flach: +1
Minus:
- Pol not important
- Blake flat. bad, thats the only skill I care about here.

Plus:
- Emil takes mtn, 71-78 now. very nice 2/4 this month
- high % trainings 66, 2x100

Missing:
- nothing I expected

Bottom Line:
- ok training

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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:48 am

Training 5.2.2021:
Ticio Bogarin Berg: -1
Ticio Bogarin Flach: -1
Ticio Bogarin Abfahrt: -1
Ticio Bogarin Zeit: -1
Ticio Bogarin Sprint: -1
Orhan Hikmet Berg: -1
Orhan Hikmet Flach: -1
Orhan Hikmet Zeit: -1
Orhan Hikmet Sprint: -1
Habib Belhassen Berg: -1
Habib Belhassen Flach: -1
Habib Belhassen Zeit: -1
Habib Belhassen Sprint: -1
Felix Krankl Berg: -1
Felix Krankl Flach: -1
Felix Krankl Sprint: -1
Armand Brotcorne Berg: -1
Samuel Lanz Flach: +1
Vasco Teixeira Berg: +1
Joan Coderch Berg: +1
Johann Löffel Berg: +1
Gorgonio Moretti Flach: +1
Francis Quaghebeur Flach: +1
Tom Espariat Berg: +1
Tom Espariat Flach: +1
Bogarin -5 in his probably last training
Hikmet -4
Belhassen -4
Krankl -3
Brotcorne -1, loses mountain, so ok

+
Lanz, flat :lol: 88 flat, 85,3 Starting to feel the pressure to deliver with him now
Teixeira, 58 mountain now, finally moving.
Coderch 71-77, good
Löffel 61 mountain now, good
Moretti: 80 flat, 77,9 pavé
Quaghebeur: 78 flat, normal at his age.
Espariat: Double, so 57-75 now

So excellent training. Not even because of Lanz, that guy is just trolling the game by now, but Teixeira, Coderch, Löffel, Moretti, all trainings that help a lot.
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Re: Training

Post by el Galactico » Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:36 am

Training 5.2.2021:
Rafael RuizCabal Flach: -1
Felipe FloresNyuti Flach: -1
Felipe FloresNyuti Zeit: -1
Alejandro Betancur Abfahrt: -1
Maxciel Pereira Berg: -1
Maxciel Pereira Flach: -1
Maxciel Pereira Abfahrt: -1
Maxciel Pereira Sprint: -1
Daniele Marcolli Flach: +1
Luca deMarchi Berg: +1
Francisco Guerra Sprint: +1
Taison Souza Berg: +1
Pedro CastelloRuiz Berg: +1
Pedro CastelloRuiz Flach: +1

de Marchi makes it a good training. The rest is shitty.

- both classics losing flat
- Wallnöfer missing once again
- Souza just mountain
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Re: Training

Post by flockmastoR » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:56 pm

Training 5.2.2021:
Max Simmer Flach: -1
Max Simmer Zeit: -1
Sebastian Hirschmoser Zeit: -1
Emir Bajramovic Flach: -1
Arthur Rinderknech Berg: +1
Arthur Rinderknech Flach: +1
Jacob Wolfowitz Berg: +1
Lance Fortnow Flach: +1
Franz Schwackhöfer Berg: +1
Franz Schwackhöfer Zeit: +1
Simmer takes the right minüsse to be still usefull as a parasite.
Rinderknech taking double at 24 first training, keep going like that 67-81 now
Wolfowitz as expected taking 100, not taking 10
Fortnow missing 50% mountain ok, taking 80% flat, good
Schwackhöfer taking 100% mountain and 80% TT, no clue how to train this guy, needs to get 82+ TT but how? Alternative is 66% mountain and 100% TT. Hm probably I risk one more on TT.
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Re: Training

Post by Bear » Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:35 pm

This Lanz is a crazy guy. I thought Tyler is the only training hero of the pavé talents. As I plan to ride some of the classics in the afternoon this could result in some nice fights.
Training 5.2.2021:
Blake Gutzeit Berg: -1
Petri Pohjamo Flach: +1
Harry Everts Flach: +1
Matteo Pavoni Berg: +1
Matteo Pavoni Flach: +1
Kees VanDerVen Berg: +1
Kees VanDerVen Flach: +1
Loic Larrieu Flach: +1
Minus:
- only Blake, only mtn - good

Plus:
- only high % trainings

Missing:
- Loic missing 7X% and Otokar 35% - no problem

Bottom Line:
- not good, not bad
- Otokar would be nice but he has time for 1-2 trainings this month
- some low percentage trainings could be a nice surprise. ok, then doubles next week.

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