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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:24 am

Training 12.8.2021:
Samuel Lanz Berg: -1
Samuel Lanz Flach: -1
Samuel Lanz Zeit: -1
Samuel Lanz Sprint: -1
Baaba Faye Flach: -1
Fabian Messerli Abfahrt: -1
Fabian Messerli Zeit: -1
Tim Eiffel Berg: -1
Tim Eiffel Zeit: -1
Gorgonio Moretti Berg: +1
Moritz Gabel Sprint: +1
DucThiep Tran Flach: +1
Dario Meucci Berg: +1
Dario Meucci Flach: +1
Swift gone, short training.
Lanz the full program again. At 37 he's overdoing it, but since he was very good until now, still 83 flat.
Faye only flat.
Messerli downhill and TT, no problem
Eiffel mountain and TT, problem. With that he's at 82 mountain and 60 TT.

+
Moretti mountain
GAbel sprint, now 86, we're only covering it actually, going for flat.
Tran flat, now 78 100%, no wonder
Meucci double, 100% flat and the 71% mountain

Problem here clearly: Ardila. stuck at 81 mountain now, what to do for the Vuelta. 82 Eiffel downtraining or 81 Ardila?
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Re: Training

Post by flockmastoR » Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:14 am

Training 12.8.2021:
Michel Loève Berg: -1
Michel Loève Flach: -1
Michel Loève Abfahrt: -1
Michel Loève Zeit: -1
Michel Loève Sprint: -1
Wilfried Nöbauer Zeit: -1
Otto Schötensack Flach: +1
Boaz Trakhtenbrot Berg: +1
August Oetker Flach: +1
György Szabo Berg: +1
György Szabo Flach: +1
Just Loeve left of the old squad so gets short again. Trakhtenbrot nice, he can continure like that
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Re: Training

Post by flockmastoR » Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:50 am

Training 20.8.2021:
Michel Loève Berg: -1
Michel Loève Flach: -1
Michel Loève Abfahrt: -1
Michel Loève Zeit: -1
Michel Loève Sprint: -1
Akos Detreköi Sprint: +1
Otto Schötensack Flach: +1
Boaz Trakhtenbrot Berg: +1
August Oetker Berg: +1
August Oetker Flach: +1
György Szabo Berg: +1
György Szabo Flach: +1
Oskar Simony Berg: +1
Oskar Simony Flach: +1
Boaz still perfect in mountain -> very nice so far, August with first double at 22 -> very nice
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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:37 am

Training 20.8.2021:
Samuel Lanz Berg: -1
Samuel Lanz Abfahrt: -1
Samuel Lanz Zeit: -1
Baaba Faye Berg: -1
Baaba Faye Flach: -1
Fabian Messerli Abfahrt: -1
Tim Eiffel Zeit: -1
Gorgonio Moretti Berg: +1
Moritz Gabel Flach: +1
Oscar Lambert Berg: +1
Oscar Lambert Abfahrt: -1
DucThiep Tran Flach: +1
Dario Meucci Flach: +1
Triple Lanz, keeps flat, nice. At 37 still 83 flat, so good.
Baaba loses the 2 important skills, 67-77 at 36 now, still useable though.
Messerli only downhill, very good
Eiffel loses TT, in 7 trainings now he's lost 2 mountain, 3 TT and 1 flat. Not ideal, but well, he'll retire some time in September anyway.

+
Moretti, mountain, now 62-83, good
Gabel the flat, good, 69 and 72.6 pavé
Lambert mountain, 68-79 now, loses downhill, but we'll take the risk again in 7 days.
Tran and Meucci both the 100% flat, Meucci ignores his 2 37% or so, downhill and sprint, under 50, but doesn't matter.

The missing training of course is Ardila... 81 mountain still, he thinks he doesn't need mountain to beat Boaz? Ok... I'd feel more confident with mountain, but maybe he knows what he's doing.
For the rest actually very nice training, One of Baas/Gabel good, Lambert 68 very good
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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:30 am

Training 27.8.2021:
Samuel Lanz Berg: -1
Samuel Lanz Flach: -1
Samuel Lanz Zeit: -1
Samuel Lanz Sprint: -1
Baaba Faye Flach: -1
Baaba Faye Abfahrt: -1
Fabian Messerli Zeit: -1
Tim Eiffel Flach: -1
Endeavour Trewlove Flach: -1
Oscar Lambert Abfahrt: -1
DucThiep Tran Flach: +1
Dario Meucci Flach: +1
Ok, this one is bad.
Lanz -4 ok
Baaba -2
Messerli unimportant loss, good
Eiffel flat, at 34, why not.
Trewlove down to 87 flat at 33
Lambert loses the not covered downhill again.

+
The 2 guys with 100%
No Ardila again, 0 from 4 with 66%....
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Re: Training

Post by Bear » Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:48 am

Training 27.8.2021:
Tyler Medaglia Berg: -1
Tyler Medaglia Flach: -1
Tyler Medaglia Abfahrt: -1
Tyler Medaglia Zeit: -1
Emil Johansson Flach: -1
Harry Everts Berg: +1
Darren Berrecloth Flach: +1
Joel Smets Flach: +1
Update again since a long time.

Tyler downtrains as good as he trained up, now only 53-85. I hope to be able to ride Binckbanck-Tour to give him the last race he deserves.

Emil also like to lose skills pretty fast.

Darren is a miracle. With 23 no flat training at all with 70%, but with 24 he takes every flat training. Nice, now: 54-84, 81,6pavé

Joel was still on 100%.

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Re: Training

Post by flockmastoR » Fri Aug 27, 2021 8:23 am

Training 27.8.2021:
Michel Loève Berg: -1
Michel Loève Flach: -1
Michel Loève Abfahrt: -1
Michel Loève Zeit: -1
Michel Loève Sprint: -1
Akos Detreköi Abfahrt: +1
Otto Schötensack Flach: +1
Boaz Trakhtenbrot Berg: +1
August Oetker Flach: +1
György Szabo Berg: +1
György Szabo Flach: +1
Oskar Simony Berg: +1
Oskar Simony Flach: +1
BOAZ!!! :D 4/4 with 23, for starting with just 71 mountain he looks pretty good already, but as we all know A&D guys usually stop training at 24
August ok, was going for ~50% mountain ~90+% flat, luckily he takes all flat but just one mountain, with the missing mountain at 21 he is now at 77-64, will be hard to get him near 80mtn.
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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:03 am

In August the name August is a bit confusing...
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Re: Training

Post by flockmastoR » Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:41 pm

Robyklebt wrote:
Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:03 am
In August the name August is a bit confusing...
:lol: just realized myself
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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:32 am

Training 5.9.2021:
Samuel Lanz Berg: -1
Samuel Lanz Flach: -1
Samuel Lanz Zeit: -1
Samuel Lanz Sprint: -1
Baaba Faye Flach: -1
Baaba Faye Zeit: -1
Fabian Messerli Berg: -1
Fabian Messerli Zeit: -1
Tim Eiffel Abfahrt: -1
Tim Eiffel Sprint: -1
Endeavour Trewlove Abfahrt: -1
Endeavour Trewlove Zeit: -1
Michele Apicella Berg: -1
Dario Meucci Flach: +1
Asier Basterretxea Berg: +1
Asier Basterretxea Flach: +1
Hmmmmmm

Lanz ok, 38.
Baaba, Messerli and Eiffel all -2, but keep their important skills, so good.
Trewlove at 34 -2 less good, but downhill+TT. No problem.
Apicella down to 85 at the first chance...

+
Here it gets depressing.
Meucci 100%, Basterretxea 96+100%, that's it.
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Re: Training

Post by flockmastoR » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:24 pm

Training 5.9.2021:
Boaz Trakhtenbrot Berg: +1
August Oetker Flach: +1
György Szabo Flach: +1
Oskar Simony Berg: +1
Oskar Simony Flach: +1
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Re: Training

Post by team fl » Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:27 pm

Training 5.9.2021:
Uros Kovacevic Abfahrt: -1
Bertram Büchel Sprint: +1
Magnus Marxer Sprint: +1
Michelangelo LoBianco Flach: +1
Fortunato Fontdevila Flach: +1
Ben Bollendorff Flach: +1
Guido Görtzen Berg: +1
Guido Görtzen Flach: +1
Kevin Klinkenberg Berg: +1
Kevin Klinkenberg Flach: +1
name geben Berg: +1
name geben Flach: +1
Lots of young riders, hence lots of positive training. Büchel and Marxer are motivtated too, a nice addition. the name geben guy has a name now, btw. On the other hand, Kovacevic keeps being a rebel, even in his older days, and does the exact opposite of what the rest does. Pfff...
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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:03 am

Training 12.9.2021:
Samuel Lanz Berg: -1
Samuel Lanz Flach: -1
Samuel Lanz Zeit: -1
Samuel Lanz Sprint: -1
Baaba Faye Berg: -1
Baaba Faye Flach: -1
Baaba Faye Abfahrt: -1
Baaba Faye Zeit: -1
Baaba Faye Sprint: -1
Fabian Messerli Flach: -1
Fabian Messerli Abfahrt: -1
Fabian Messerli Sprint: -1
Endeavour Trewlove Berg: -1
Vasco Teixeira Flach: -1
Francis Quaghebeur Flach: +1
Moritz Gabel Flach: +1
Oscar Lambert Berg: +1
Ivan Ardila Berg: +1
Ivan Ardila Abfahrt: -1
DucThiep Tran Flach: +1
Dario Meucci Flach: +1
Asier Basterretxea Berg: +1
Lanz at 38 -4, but keeps the flat and pavé
Faye at 37 -5, less good
Messerli at 35 -3, loses flat and sprint, not ideal
Trewlove at 34 loses mountain.
Teixeira at 33 flat

+
Quaghebeur 87! Nice, needed, he made a long break at 84, but good flat now
Gabel now 70 flat, 73,3 pavé
Lambert mountain, now 69-79
Ardila gets the mountain, now at 82. Loses the downhill, now 76
Tran flat 81 now, 77,4 pavé
Meucci flat and Basterretxea mountain both 100%, now 80 flat and 75 mountain.

With ARdila finally training again of course we're happy. Quaghebeur very nice, Lambert, Gabel too.
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Re: Training

Post by flockmastoR » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:27 am

Training 12.9.2021:
Otto Schötensack Flach: +1
Boaz Trakhtenbrot Berg: +1
August Oetker Flach: +1
György Szabo Flach: +1
Oskar Simony Berg: +1
Oskar Simony Flach: +1
Geoffrey Hinton Flach: +1
Geoffrey Hinton Sprint: +1
Boaz is really on fire 85 mtn after second training at 24 starting with just 71 he is still perfect there
Geoffrey Hinton just joined the team after 5th, his goal is to train sprint and flat
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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:08 am

Training 20.9.2021:
Samuel Lanz Berg: -1
Samuel Lanz Flach: -1
Samuel Lanz Abfahrt: -1
Samuel Lanz Zeit: -1
Samuel Lanz Sprint: -1
Baaba Faye Berg: -1
Baaba Faye Flach: -1
Baaba Faye Sprint: -1
Fabian Messerli Berg: -1
Fabian Messerli Abfahrt: -1
Endeavour Trewlove Zeit: -1
Gorgonio Moretti Zeit: -1
Tom Espariat Berg: +1
Daan Baas Flach: +1
Oscar Lambert Berg: +1
Dario Meucci Flach: +1
Asier Basterretxea Berg: +1
Asier Basterretxea Flach: +1
Lanz -5
Baaba -3
Messerli, Trewlove don't downtrain the important things, so good.

So pretty satisfied with the oldies.

Moretti -1 TT, now at 50
Espariat mountain, 72-80 now, excellent
Baas flat, 83 and 81.8 pavé. Hope for still a bit more of course.
Lambert mountain, now 70-79 excellent too
Meucci flat, at 92% really expected, so ok
Basterretxea double, now 76-55

So despite Ardila not training again, stuck at 82, with Espariat and Lambert this is a good training.
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Re: Training

Post by flockmastoR » Mon Sep 20, 2021 1:22 pm

Training 20.9.2021:
Otto Schötensack Flach: +1
August Oetker Berg: +1
August Oetker Flach: +1
Oskar Simony Flach: +1
Geoffrey Hinton Flach: +1
Geoffrey Hinton Sprint: +1
Boaz first missing mnt training but August takes double 78-67 now
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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:39 am

Training 27.9.2021:
Samuel Lanz Flach: -1
Samuel Lanz Zeit: -1
Samuel Lanz Sprint: -1
Baaba Faye Berg: -1
Baaba Faye Flach: -1
Baaba Faye Abfahrt: -1
Baaba Faye Zeit: -1
Fabian Messerli Berg: -1
Fabian Messerli Flach: -1
Fabian Messerli Abfahrt: -1
Endeavour Trewlove Abfahrt: -1
Endeavour Trewlove Sprint: -1
Francis Quaghebeur Flach: +1
Moritz Gabel Flach: +1
Dario Meucci Flach: +1
Asier Basterretxea Berg: +1
Lanz -3, ok
Baaba -4, can live with it.
Messerli -3, keeps sprint so nice. 35 and only 1 sprint lost.
Trewlove-2, keeps flat, good

+
Quaghebeur flat, now 88!
Gabel flat now 71+74 pavé.
Meucci flat, 82.
Basterretxea mountain, 77-55 after 1 season.

Ardila missing, 82 at 24...
Tran and/or Lambert would have been nice too. Like this El guapo's refusal to progress overshadows the whole training.
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Re: Training

Post by flockmastoR » Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:03 pm

Training 27.9.2021:
Akos Detreköi Berg: +1
Oskar Simony Flach: +1
Geoffrey Hinton Flach: +1
Geoffrey Hinton Sprint: +1
Akos fine, 69-81-80 now, can still be our best 70-80 guy soon
Rest very bad, no Boaz, no August, no Franz
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Re: Training

Post by flockmastoR » Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:46 am

Training 5.10.2021:
Alexandros Karatzoglou Flach: -1
Alexandros Karatzoglou Zeit: -1
Uwe Schöning Abfahrt: -1
Lance Fortnow Flach: +1
Akos Detreköi Zeit: -1
Oskar Simony Flach: +1
Geoffrey Hinton Flach: +1
Geoffrey Hinton Sprint: +1
Hm positive thing is Lance 60-83 now
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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:47 am

Training 5.10.2021:
Samuel Lanz Berg: -1
Samuel Lanz Flach: -1
Samuel Lanz Abfahrt: -1
Samuel Lanz Zeit: -1
Samuel Lanz Sprint: -1
Baaba Faye Flach: -1
Baaba Faye Abfahrt: -1
Baaba Faye Zeit: -1
Baaba Faye Sprint: -1
Fabian Messerli Abfahrt: -1
Fabian Messerli Zeit: -1
Fabian Messerli Sprint: -1
Endeavour Trewlove Zeit: -1
Endeavour Trewlove Sprint: -1
Joan Coderch Flach: -1
Asier Basterretxea Berg: +1
Silvio Bieri Berg: +1
Silvio Bieri Flach: +1
Lanz -5 normal at 39
Baaba -4, keeps mountain at 38, nice to keep mountain!
Messerli -3, loses sprint, but at least keeps mountain and flat.
Trewlove -2 TT and sprint, perfect.
Coderch -1, flat, at 33 takes the first one, blah, but ok.
Not a bad minus training, actually pretty good. Teixeira, Stakhanov and Apicella keep all. Messerli sprint, but only the second time and he's 36

+
Basterretxea now 78 mountain. Took his 100%
Bieri the positive suprise it seems. 100% mountain and took the 8x% flat too. Have 34% at sprint...
Nothing else.
Meucci to Lambert, 23 to 26, at least one of them would be nice....

Not too happy with this training for the youngsters.
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Re: Training

Post by flockmastoR » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:17 pm

Training 12.10.2021:
Alexandros Karatzoglou Flach: -1
Uwe Schöning Flach: -1
Uwe Schöning Abfahrt: -1
Lance Fortnow Berg: +1
Otto Schötensack Zeit: -1
Oskar Simony Flach: +1
Geoffrey Hinton Flach: +1
Geoffrey Hinton Sprint: +1
Schöning losing flat on 2nd chance, not good, Lance 61-83 now very nice, August missing he really stops training at 24 too?
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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:32 pm

Training 12.10.2021:
Samuel Lanz Berg: -1
Samuel Lanz Flach: -1
Samuel Lanz Abfahrt: -1
Samuel Lanz Zeit: -1
Samuel Lanz Sprint: -1
Baaba Faye Berg: -1
Baaba Faye Flach: -1
Baaba Faye Abfahrt: -1
Baaba Faye Zeit: -1
Baaba Faye Sprint: -1
Fabian Messerli Flach: -1
Fabian Messerli Abfahrt: -1
Endeavour Trewlove Zeit: -1
Vasco Teixeira Flach: -1
Vasco Teixeira Abfahrt: -1
Michele Apicella Zeit: -1
Michele Apicella Sprint: -1
Joan Coderch Berg: -1
Daan Baas Flach: +1
DucThiep Tran Flach: +1
Dario Meucci Flach: +1
Asier Basterretxea Berg: +1
Asier Basterretxea Flach: +1
Silvio Bieri Berg: +1
Silvio Bieri Flach: +1
Lanz and Cousin Baaba full down, 39+38 so ok
Messerli flat and downhill, keeps sprint=good
Trewlove TT, good
Teixeira double down, flat and downhill, not ideal
Apicella double down, TT and sprint, no problem
Coderch -2 mountain, bah, not happy, but was bound to happen rather sooner than later

+
Baas, Tran and Meucci up flat, god. Baas 83 now, considering he started at 69 that's good enough. Of course hope for 85 at some point, but..
Basterretxea excellent. mountain AND flat. Flat? I'm not training flat! Good man, now I'm not training that anymore... took risk in the first training at 22, forgot to change to the no risk training after.... now changed.
Bieri double, so coming along well, he has risky training hoping for a triple including sprint, but maybe I'll just drop that and take mountain flat at 21
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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:44 am

Training 20.10.2021:
Baaba Faye Berg: -1
Baaba Faye Flach: -1
Baaba Faye Abfahrt: -1
Baaba Faye Zeit: -1
Fabian Messerli Berg: -1
Fabian Messerli Flach: -1
Endeavour Trewlove Berg: -1
Endeavour Trewlove Flach: -1
Endeavour Trewlove Abfahrt: -1
Michele Apicella Zeit: -1
Michele Apicella Sprint: -1
Joan Coderch Flach: -1
Dario Meucci Flach: +1
Asier Basterretxea Berg: +1
Silvio Bieri Berg: +1
Baaba keeps sprint, who cares
Messerli mountain and flat down, not ideal but sprint stays is more important
Trewlove loses the 2 most important skills, flat and mountain, now 55-86, still good, but not top anymore
Apicella TT and sprint gone, no problem
Coderch another flat down, wasn't top to start with, now 76 is far from ideal.

+
Meucci now 84, good
Basterretxea his 100 %, now 80
Bieri only the 100% mountain, no 77% flat this time and still no 34% sprint.

The plus is a bit short, only 3 guys, 21-23, usually nice to get somebody at 24+...like Baas and Tran last time. But on the other hand in the first October training didn't even get Meucci, so should not complain and take it.
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Re: Training

Post by flockmastoR » Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:09 am

Training 20.10.2021:
Alexandros Karatzoglou Zeit: -1
Uwe Schöning Berg: -1
Franz Schwackhöfer Flach: +1
Akos Detreköi Berg: +1
Oskar Simony Flach: +1
Geoffrey Hinton Flach: +1
Geoffrey Hinton Sprint: +1
Karatzoglou keeps sprint, Uwe keeps flat. Schwacki a nice to have 75 flat now, Detreköi now 70-81-80 with 27 and our 3rd classic reaching exactly 70mtn, Geoffrey 53-78 with 70 sprint now
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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:29 pm

Training 27.10.2021:
Baaba Faye Berg: -1
Baaba Faye Flach: -1
Baaba Faye Abfahrt: -1
Endeavour Trewlove Flach: -1
Asier Basterretxea Berg: +1
Silvio Bieri Berg: +1
Silvio Bieri Flach: +1
Short, shockingly short, not used to such short training.

Baabe -3, at 38 that's good
Trewlove -1, flat, at 35, not ideal, but ok.

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Basterretxea takes the risky last training at 22, perfect 81 mountain. Now the decisive seasons will start. 81-56-73 to start, I'm ok with that.
Bieri double, so +4+3 at 21, 60-72 mountain flat now. Took flat risk the whole time with something for sprint, but well, never a triple. From now on though sprint will be the second priority.

A bit short, some nice 23-32 year old training would have been nice.
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