Cool Rider of the year 2011

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Cool Rider of the year 2011

Post by Robyklebt » Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:59 pm

Ok, to the other awards this year too... 2009 Allagen did, he forgot to put a limit to the votes so we still could vote for Reynolds vs Leupold if the forum hadn't crashed... 2011 Lizard, he seems gone. So ok ok, I'll just do it:

Rules. From Dec. first to Dec 15th nominate riders. Max. 3 nominations per person. No need to make an order. No need to nominate riders already nominated by others. Around Dec. 15th Roko Keko will put all the nominated riders in a vote. If there are more nominated riders than there is places in the vote, the ape will simply decide himself which 15? 20? riders get a place in the vote. Ah, he'll draft FL and NoPik to help him in the decision. but unlikely it happens. If it happens, the reasons given for the nomination will be taken into account.

Here: Cult rider of the year. Definition? Nobody knows. Nominations are open.
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Re: Cult Rider of the year 2011

Post by sylvainmeteo » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:31 pm

Kamehameha, could be a really great tour rider...
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Re: Cult Rider of the year 2011

Post by Robyklebt » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:38 am

Stupid award really... maybe we should all write in here and say KICK IT?

Old definition of "cult" rider was: Rider with a cool name, rider that is known, but not for his many wins, but for other reasons. Not meaning it has to be a loser, but maybe an attacking rider, that is often in escapes. Basically a Jacky Durand with a cooler name. But a Vinokurov, like him or dislike him, would qualify too, he is cult. A special character, an offensive riding style. That was in 06... nowadays... simply doesn't seem to exist anymore? Nobody really gives a character to his riders anymore, we are all more conservative with our energy management, wild offensive riders are mostly by new managers. Riders that are just well known even without successes don't exist that much. It's oh, the 75-79! He never wins! And I earned 2 millions last month! Cool.

So? This award really still necessary? Don't know... I'll change my definition and if I manage to change the title of the thread the title of the thread too.

Cool riders sounds better, easier to define.. Plus doesn't have the historical baggage for us RSF oldies, that think about the old style cult riders.

If it doesn't take off, we'll jsut cancel the vote, probably best:

Cool riders, defintion, well, up to yourselves. Mine is: cool! For whatever reason. Cool name. Cool way of riding. Cool wins with him. Cool attacks. Cool!

- Jawad Azizi. Just cool. Everybody in the french forum was .... :?: NoPik, NoPik... :roll: what's this, tocard de merde? Let's think back 1,5 years ago. NoPik, there since 1 year, not many successes, nice enough and funny guy, has Roko Keko. 14 wins until 01.07.2010, nothing special in the race. Then he bought this Iranian... 01.06.2010 No, No, Nopik, for a hill sprinter 50-77 mmh.. not that good. Training? stops him at 84 sprint. Idiocy... he'll never win anything... or just something by chance here and there. Getting 5 wins? Ari probably could, you'll stop at 3, maximum. Typical beginner, only there one year, that doesn't really get RSF yet. The rest is history.... 08.09.2010 NoPik has 17 wins. 09.09.2010, Jawad Azizi wins his first race. He went on to win 28 and really put NoPik on the map. Before, the funny useless guy, now, the angry danger man. As of today 78 race wins, the man that started it all=Azizi. Not just a surprise his wins, 84 sprint, even with 72 or something mountain wasn't expected to win so much, but his cool influence on the team, his managers rant in the chats when the noobs (Radler and everybody with less than 2000 races) chased him too hard or did mistakes. Azizi is cool!

- Billy Bummler: He's cool, because....he's uncool. He rides in the evening. And he's uncool, because this damn Radler somehow gets a very good classic in every generation. Willi Wiese, Pete Feet, now Bummler. That makes him cool again. And his name, perfectly fits into Radlers retarded naming pattern. Cool. 76-78, 0 wins, like Willi for a long time before him, like Pete Feet wasn't highly succesful either. But, that makes him cool. Not because he's a disappointment, he isn't, but because he is a pure helper. Radler is one of the very few, very very very few real climbers teams. (I'd say there are 2, I'm the other one, but might be forgetting sombody, so only say it in parenthesis) Nr 1 focus=climber, always climber. While others tend to go to the classic rider for wins, get him 60 sprint, try to make the race for him even if he has less, Radler goes for the climber, 100% when that one has even 1% chances, still 50% when he actually has 0% chances. The classic? Win with him? An after thought. If the climbers really can't do anything, ok. And Bummler being part of that very rare team philosophy makes him cool too.

-Fabian Höhenflug: A Habermacher. One of the great innovators and (assholes too of course :) ) of RSF, he did invent the Leupold, clearly the defining rider of 2009, went old school. Cool. A Habermacher. Everybody really knows he is clearly inferior to the Leupold. The flat training is wasted, 72 is enough, maybe 74 to be safer, what you need is mountain, mountain, TT, TT, and a team of good support riders, classics for the horrible flat attacks carrying the Leupold, a not too strong but not too weak climber to carry him up the mountain. Cover the flat, every other training unit on flat is 100% waste, you just minimize your chances of success, his mountain and TT skill, which will decide about winning or losing just have less chances to improve. Possibilty of results in classics, one day races? Who cares, the allrounder most often will be around all the time, but seldom on top, while the specialist Leupold will be nowhere at all or on top. Allagen knows that better than anybody else (except my boss Petit Singe, he knows everything best anyway), despite that he went for a Habermacher. Cool guy this Höhenflug! Don't care much about the name, no wins either, don't remember any special actions, he had no real own identity either, Allagens rider all have the same identity anyway somehow, but going back to the Habermacher is cool !
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Re: Cool Rider of the year 2011

Post by flockmastoR » Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:57 pm

Osamu Uchigasaki

buhmanns fault he is cool, won the NC in Japan but riding with the South-Korean jersey, funny guy
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Re: Cool Rider of the year 2011

Post by Robyklebt » Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:17 am

Award cancelled due to lack of participation.
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