Consulting for clueless managers

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Re: Consulting for clueless managers

Post by IDF » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:03 pm

I've a problem too...


i've 2 TT riders..Ante and Hessem and i will participate to the Czech Tour.. but i don't know how make my settings for win easily?

I've 2x 82 ( probably if Ante will train tonight.. ) - 58 - 53-51 etc...

Please , do you have any tips for me ? The TTT does 20 kms.. very important for me :(

Thx :D
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Re: Consulting for clueless managers

Post by flockmastoR » Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:17 am

Hello me again.

After a long time i am starting racing again and my team looks awfull right now. 11 riders and 10 of them are older than 29, 4 older than 36. My youngest guy is 25. All the helpers are very old except for the 2 flat guys (87 and 86) together with my 93 sprinter and the old ones i can at least put a weak sprint team on the sheet. 2 TT specialists (25 and 29 years old) and a climber (85). Well i know a have to buy some flatriders and helpers first but my question is what to to with this team in the future. The climber seems to be false in my team because my best support for him has 62 mountain and that guy is very old. So sell him already? I would get 3,3 millions for him. Right now i am riding Sibiu and he is still able to get into the top3 even without support. I want to ride little tours (with TT) and one day races in the future so a climber would make sense hm. some ideas?
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Re: Consulting for clueless managers

Post by Chense » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:20 pm

Time to fresh this up a bit ...

Actually my team will change soon and i dont know what i should do with the following riders and when:

Christian Grafenmatt: He is only 26 years old and a 82-63 62TT that performed overaverage at Giro and Suisse but neither TDF nor Giro seem to be made for him and he costs shitloads of money (98k) for beeing only a top 10 to 15 rider for both tours and has only 51 reg which makes it hard for him to launch many attacks.
So he will not start TDF 98% ... so he could be sold ...
But he performed well and he was bought cheapened so i get only 2.3m and if i want to take siegfried to the TDF he would be the sieber ... and then the team will be around 500k

Siegfried Schauinsland: 76-82 60 Reg 33 years old ... could be a nice and cheaper leader for the tdf but see above needs christian somehow as the next best guys in mountain will be 64-68 while the TDF ... and most likely in the end of the tour he will be more a 74-80 or even less ... would bring 2.1m when sold

The rest of the team is pretty young and can stay together at least for the rest of the real season (Heinrich Eck 64-83 and Dachsberg 50-70 82sp the oldest with 28)

So what are the options?

- Sell Grafenmatt buy the next classics captain and have about 500k left - ride tdf with schauinsland with a 440k team

- Sell Grafenmatt buy a cheapened semi gc leader like soler (83-54 57 reg 30 years 1.7 mio) for the next 2 gts and ride them with a 480k team keep the rest of the money and hopefully buy a cheap 11th rider after tdf

- Sell Grafenmatt buy a cheap classic (regless for one day races) and a cheap 11th rider

- Keep Grafenmatt and Ride TDF just without him with a 460k team

- Sell both buy a cheap classic and the new gt captain and ride tdf with a 410k team

- Sell both buy a new classics captain and a mediocre 11th rider (future flat blocker with some reg and sprint)

Or something else?

Please give me some opinions

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Re: Consulting for clueless managers

Post by Quick » Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:01 pm

Depends what you value. A GT might be fun with a semi-leader and Schauinsland but selling both and buying a youth classic + 1 cheap rider would pave the way for more profit and better riders further down the line.
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Re: Consulting for clueless managers

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:37 pm

Selling Schauinsland before he turns 34 would be scandalous!!! Self trained 76 classic, he deserves to retire at your team.

Selling Grafenmatt, why not, but claiming he doesn't have reg? 51 is good enough.
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- Sell Grafenmatt buy the next classics captain and have about 500k left - ride tdf with schauinsland with a 440k team
Next classics captain? That's not Andreas Hofer? If you sell Grafenmatt I'd rather buy 2 flat riders, one with pavé for PR 24, the other without, both little reg.

440k TdF team seems fine. With your reg you can attack often, Dachsberg some sprint money. Schauinsland stage chances, somebody almost always siebs, so even without sieber...

Keep Grafenmatt, save him for the Vuelta another option.
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Re: Consulting for clueless managers

Post by Chense » Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:54 pm

Thanks for the replies already:

Somehow Roby is right ... selling Schauinsland would be a shame ... he will get the tour.

That makes the options a bit smaller:

Grafenmatt has to less reg for his mountain value and my style of riding - a big early gc attack is not possible because hell often be at around 900 the next day then and also the vuelta does not fit i think ... so i could really sell him ... makes around 2.5 mio on the bankroll maybe a bit more if the rest of the month runs well...

About PR: Nope i am not a pave team and wont change :)

What are my plans for the future?
- having about 12-13 riders again in the winter
- going next year either for an 80-70 with some tt or a real mountain guy without tt for the gts
- have at least 3 classic riders by january
- overall have the team for my extremely aggresive riding again ;-) want to make the early evening guys sweat more again ...
- ride the bigger upcoming tours and all in all 15-20 races a month (except gc months)

So which options do i have:
- Buy that soler guy have a cheaper sieber for schauinsland with more reg have 850k left hope to get enough until the end of the month for a really cheap 11th guy then go for money until end of vuelta buy the next gc captain then when siegfried is gone

- buy another classic like hofer have the expensive double with garibaldi as addon have 500k left hope to buy a cheap guy after tdf and a gc guy in november when siegfried is gone

- buy a classic for one day races like 55-73 with downhill and around 58 sprint without (<45) reg have 800k left see above

- buy 2 cheap guys (1 flatrider without reg, 1 battery with some reg virtually a nothelfer with 55 reg) ride tdf and vuelta really cheap hope to earn much money then buy whats needed for next year

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