Consulting for clueless managers

[bogis]

what do you thing about this rider: 53 74 64 75 62 62 reg 20 years?
I make a good choice to buy him?
how to train it?

[Robyklebt]

If you want to go for the GC in the GT next year... mmh, not a perfect choice. This is a leader himself, but very likely not for GTs. But he will use lots of resources. He can win tours too, with lots of TTs, but he'll need helpers too a guy that carries him up the mountains, etc. Training would be mountain and TT for him. But if you want to go for GTs and a GT team he's not the man you need.

[bogis]

he is for short tours with some mountain and much itt,and of course i will buy a mountain rider for him

[Robyklebt]

Problem is a bit that the mountain rider for him will have to be weaker than a mountain climber who rides the GC for himself. If that guy goes to 72 mountain for example, the helper should be.... 80? Not more (but I'm not a specialist for those 72 leaders, so don't know) The GT climber of course needs more. And if he wants a climbing helper too, that would have to more than 80 too. But ok, the other classics, which this leader needs too, are the same, guys that will be 7x-8x-7x, as high as possible of course... so those 2 or so support riders will be the same for both leaders.

[Lizard]

This kind of rider doesn't necessarily need a climber as helper, rather two other classic guys. If you go for such a "Leupold" type, you could need two more 70-80s to carry him and block on final kms.

[bogis]

so my next guy to buy should be a classic?

[Lizard]

Definitely. For teambuilding around those riders, let's take the example RV Allagen. He bought Peter Leupold, who made it to something like 74-70-65-84-60. His helpers were pure classics like Bernd Beuler (75-79) or Fabian Fuchsbaum (74-80). At least one of the helpers should be capable of downhill, and at best have a similar mountain skill as the leader aswell as something around 80 flat when they have trained. They carry the leader up the hill well enough, you don't need a climber for that. And I guess one helper should have some reg, around 50 would be good imo.

[Robyklebt]

Allagen had a climber, a puller for uphill, pretty sure.

[sylvainmeteo]

Definitely. For teambuilding around those riders, let's take the example RV Allagen. He bought Peter Leupold, who made it to something like 74-70-65-84-60. His helpers were pure classics like Bernd Beuler (75-79) or Fabian Fuchsbaum (74-80). At least one of the helpers should be capable of downhill, and at best have a similar mountain skill as the leader aswell as something around 80 flat when they have trained. They carry the leader up the hill well enough, you don't need a climber for that. And I guess one helper should have some reg, around 50 would be good imo.

I had Stoffel who was also a 74 MO 84 TT and Kapovnik now, yes, don't really need a climber, but numerous classic (at least 3 and 2 over 45 reg is the best), I did really good stages in TDF with Kapovnik and he ended 6th and best youth (68 MO and 82 TT during TDF), and Arbuckle and Bert (when he was a 76/60 was very useful, as well as Rupnik )

[Lizard]

Allagen had a climber, a puller for uphill, pretty sure.

Just seen the post. As far as I remember, not from the beginning, but when Leupold got around 30 or something. And I think he only had like 82 mountain.. but necessary? No, just money eating machines!

[Robyklebt]

When Leupold was 30 I'm fairly sure he wasn't at Allagen anymore, but with Elbcoast!
IMO he had one earlier. And yes, I think the climber can bring the decisive seconds. And yes, 82 or something, not 88, which doesn't help. So if somebody is serious about winning with a Leupold (so not SM, he wants to make money) depending on the course he'll need a climbing puller.

[bogis]

yes i thing a 80m65+flat and a 7x8x riders are enought for him to win some tours and some stages.

[Lizard]

I need advice.

bergwerk 6.807 current points
Wizards Cycling 6.788 current points

Even bergwerk passes me, what am I doing wrong?

[Quick]

I need advice.

bergwerk 6.807 current points
Wizards Cycling 6.788 current points

Even bergwerk passes me, what am I doing wrong?

What i've seen from sachsen - try to be more online.

[Neo]

Hello everyone,

I am new and I don't have any riders yet. Can someone tell me how strong the starter-teams are? For example the sprinter-teams.
I'm afraid, I will get the team without any chance of having a look at it first if I click on yes when asked if I'm sure.

Thank you all

Neo

Edit: Well I think I didn't put it the right way.
I want to know if the starter teams are worth it or if I should get my own riders from the free agency?

[Mangahn]

Keine Angst. Du kannst in der Anfangszeit (bis zu) täglich resetten. Fehler sind also nicht wirklich schlimm und korrigierbar.

Weiss der Teufel wie gut die automatikteams sind. Soweit ich mich erinnern kann waren die nicht übel, aber eine gemeinsame Zusammenstellung mit einem Mentor ist sicher einfacher, bringt mehr Spass und sicher mehr Erfolg.

Ich bin weder ein Sprintspezialist noch besonders up to date, aber vielleicht willst Du mir trotzdem eine Private Nachricht (PN) mit Deiner ICQ-Nummer schicken? Skype müsste ich sonst auch wieder ausgraben können.

[NoPikouze]

I dont know exactly, starter-teams are OK but not perfect.
Anyway, you should have several riders over 82 flat, a sprinter with 50 mountain, 56+ flat and 92+ sprint.
And no flatrider/helper under 70 flat

[Rastaman]

Just specialize in one kind of races

[AlmavivaItalia]

Need the "go to guy" for Next Year GT's

after a long PM with one of the experienced one guy in the game, this is the result:

He give me the input to buy before 5th of december one between a climber with TT, an "Huber" or a classic climber


But...Now no great leaders on YTM:
-best 70-55-56-63-XX 57 reg (out of cash for me now and no downhill)
-No complete huber (66-71 or 67-71, first one bit better)

Great climber hasn't right skills:
Complete one is 73-53-68-49-59 40reg

So i need to wait... and wait, and wait?
or i can try to buy one of these?

Or, instead of focusing into a GT's, i may try to choose something different? A sprint classical guy? something other? (i really hate sprinterteams, so sorry)

[Robyklebt]

Not many answers...

I'd wait, that climber isn't worth it, the 70/63 yeah.. downhill would be nice... and a bit less reg... I'd wait.

Other goals.. don't really know, wait and see, if you see a perfect guy and get him, why not, but if it's GTs you want to be strong in, then go for GTs. But more important: the training problem of your team is clearly due to the Brathwaite name... they cheat you, Kyle says, yes, did my training today, but he sent some other Brathwaite to do it for him.. and then of course he doesn't improve!

[Rake]

There is a nice Huber on it 68/55/72/69 a bit much Reg, but if u have the money.

[Rastaman]

I just got a new guy, how should you train him

Dean Myrie 55 71 70 76 61

Honnestly i think a guy for all the short tours, other suggestions are also welcome.

[bergwerk cycling]

I just got a new guy, how should you train him

Dean Myrie 55 71 70 76 61

Honnestly i think a guy for all the short tours, other suggestions are also welcome.

Hill and time ... in the end 73-70-68 with 84 time and 60 sprint possible (nearby my Mick Jagger at the start)
and not only good for all the short tours ... .-)
good luck

[Rastaman]

I just got a new guy, how should you train him

Dean Myrie 55 71 70 76 61

Honnestly i think a guy for all the short tours, other suggestions are also welcome.

Hill and time ... in the end 73-70-68 with 84 time and 60 sprint possible (nearby my Mick Jagger at the start)
and not only good for all the short tours ... .-)
good luck

Thank you

[AlmavivaItalia]

OK, now is the situation:

Old AlmavivaItalia give no money for Market, so New Team Manager of Brath Rhum Factory has only the team and anithing to act in market.
Also for this, probably the RSF Uci (in the person of Pat BuhmannQuaid) Disqualified the team from the "Giro" due to financial loss and suspected illegal transaction (Gerard Fournier Buying is the "enquired transaction").

The team is getting old, and now it's time to rebuilt it.

This is the actual Situation:

Cash now 2M nearly


Not To Sell IMO

Kyle Brathwaite 83-58-79. 25yo. He's a good helper, he will remain in my team except if i will rebuilt totally the team from 0.

Peter Brathwaite 72-78-70 26yo. surely my classicguy at the moment. Not so strong, probably i should sell him, but he's cheap and still growing. N° 2 to remaining in the team

Aaron Brathwaite 53-82-67 25yo. A good flatrider/helper, and enough young. 3rd of the future lineup.

Obadele Brathwaite 89 sprint 23yo. 4th of the future lineup. Young.


To Sell

Gerard Fournier 89-64-50 etc... 34yo. I'm undecided if i will sell him until the end of january (+1,8M in cash) or took him until february because he's still an 88 rider.

Ayrton SennaDaSilva: 70-78-76 61 reg 30yo. He can be sold. Old, Expensive, not so strong. +1.4M if i sell him before february

Michael Brathwaite: 88TT, 33YO. Nothing else. He is the first one targeted to be sold. Too Expensive to took him as helper. +1.3M solding him.


Unknown

Rick Brathwaite 43-80 29yo. Cheap guy. +500K selling him
Fred Brathwaite 45-80 28yo. Same as Rick. +600k
Abel Muzorewa 60-83-72. but 32 yo. +900k
Mark Huges 59-84 but 31yo. +800k
John Brathwaite. 51-87 28yo. Flatrider. Nothing else.

What are my targets? Have an almost useful team for Mountain/Classicstage (not a specific target).