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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:41 am
by chartreusecycle
Thanks !

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:28 pm
by olaf
you have removed nationality for my two argentine riders, which is incorrect, below are the links
Milton rhys
The Welsh Argentine who fought the British

A choirmaster in Patagonia describes how he was conscripted by the junta to take part in its Falklands campaign. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldn ... itish.html
A champion of the Welsh language in South America has died in Patagonia, aged 87.

Tegai Roberts, described as “a cultural legend”, was a direct descendant of the Welshmen who colonised part of Argentina almost 150 years ago.


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wale ... nt-7029866

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:12 am
by Mangahn
https://geboren.am/orte/europa/belarus

Ich weiss, dass es üblich ist, meine Fahrer um ihre Nationalität zu bringen und habe mich nur gewundert warum es so lange gedauert hat.
Ich gebe sie ihnen jetzt zurück und bitte darum, die voreiligen Finger davon zu lassen. Nachweise oben müssten vollständig sein.

lg

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:37 am
by team fl
Mangahn wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:12 am
https://geboren.am/orte/europa/belarus

Ich weiss, dass es üblich ist, meine Fahrer um ihre Nationalität zu bringen und habe mich nur gewundert warum es so lange gedauert hat.
Ich gebe sie ihnen jetzt zurück und bitte darum, die voreiligen Finger davon zu lassen. Nachweise oben müssten vollständig sein.

lg
Name des Fahrers?

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:23 am
by olaf
olaf wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:28 pm
you have removed nationality for my two argentine riders, which is incorrect, below are the links
Milton rhys
The Welsh Argentine who fought the British

A choirmaster in Patagonia describes how he was conscripted by the junta to take part in its Falklands campaign. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldn ... itish.html
A champion of the Welsh language in South America has died in Patagonia, aged 87.

Tegai Roberts, described as “a cultural legend”, was a direct descendant of the Welshmen who colonised part of Argentina almost 150 years ago.


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wale ... nt-7029866
is this enough information for you????

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:28 am
by team fl
olaf wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:23 am
olaf wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:28 pm
you have removed nationality for my two argentine riders, which is incorrect, below are the links
Milton rhys
The Welsh Argentine who fought the British

A choirmaster in Patagonia describes how he was conscripted by the junta to take part in its Falklands campaign. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldn ... itish.html
A champion of the Welsh language in South America has died in Patagonia, aged 87.

Tegai Roberts, described as “a cultural legend”, was a direct descendant of the Welshmen who colonised part of Argentina almost 150 years ago.


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wale ... nt-7029866
is this enough information for you????
Yep, thanks. I check what happened to them.

Edith says, Argentina is set, but it takes the usual three days due to technical reasons.

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:31 am
by auxilium torino
Why De la Hoya without nationality? i choise Venezuela, De La Hoya is a typical spanisch surname, Valentin, is a male name...i don`t understand who delete the nationality...

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:02 pm
by team fl
auxilium torino wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:31 am
Why De la Hoya without nationality? i choise Venezuela, De La Hoya is a typical spanisch surname, Valentin, is a male name...i don`t understand who delete the nationality...
Not without but wrong nationality. Try mexican ;)

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:19 pm
by auxilium torino
FL, oscar is a famous de la hoya, but the name give also in others spanish speaknd latin country...
Come from Spanish ( give several town or comunity in spain), also can found it in every spanish ex colonie, others as typical native latinaamerican name that come from Maya, Azteca or Inca cultur.
I find wrong to delete venezuelan name, that was a Gran Colombia nation after the discovery from america, wo you find it spanish and italian name!

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:27 am
by team fl
auxilium torino wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:19 pm
FL, oscar is a famous de la hoya, but the name give also in others spanish speaknd latin country...
Come from Spanish ( give several town or comunity in spain), also can found it in every spanish ex colonie, others as typical native latinaamerican name that come from Maya, Azteca or Inca cultur.
I find wrong to delete venezuelan name, that was a Gran Colombia nation after the discovery from america, wo you find it spanish and italian name!
Then show me, from a serious source, a venezuelan citizen with the name de la hoya please. Or from another spnaish speaking latin country. Cause I could not find any.

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:26 am
by Pokemon Club
Yop, question :

I want to name my new japanese rider Mayumi "Cindy" YAMAMOTO. Cindy was the artist name of the woman. Is it good or not ?

http://jpop.wikia.com/wiki/CINDY

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:13 am
by Hunsrueck
Pokemon Club wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:26 am
Yop, question :

I want to name my new japanese rider Mayumi "Cindy" YAMAMOTO. Cindy was the artist name of the woman. Is it good or not ?

http://jpop.wikia.com/wiki/CINDY
Should be no prob.

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:22 am
by team fl
Hunsrueck wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:13 am
Pokemon Club wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:26 am
Yop, question :

I want to name my new japanese rider Mayumi "Cindy" YAMAMOTO. Cindy was the artist name of the woman. Is it good or not ?

http://jpop.wikia.com/wiki/CINDY
Should be no prob.
Depends. Will he be called:

- Mayumi Yamamoto, or
- MayumiCindy Yamamoto, or
- Cindy Yamamoto

Also ".." is not possible when namimg a rider ;)

The NC-Guidelimes state:
§1(2) Nicknames (f.e. „Katsche“ Schwarzenbeck), artist names (f.e. „DJ Ötzi“) or fantasy names (f.e. „Pepsi Cola“, „Baum Stamm“) are not allowed. Riders with such names will be made stateless.
The exception is, if a person is mainly known undee that name, f.e. Jeff Bridges, whose real name would be Jeffrey Bridges. I don't know anything about Cindy Yamamoto though, but i would give the benefit of the doubt.

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:15 pm
by Pokemon Club
team fl wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:22 am
Hunsrueck wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:13 am
Pokemon Club wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:26 am
Yop, question :

I want to name my new japanese rider Mayumi "Cindy" YAMAMOTO. Cindy was the artist name of the woman. Is it good or not ?

http://jpop.wikia.com/wiki/CINDY
Should be no prob.
Depends. Will he be called:

- Mayumi Yamamoto, or
- MayumiCindy Yamamoto, or
- Cindy Yamamoto

Also ".." is not possible when namimg a rider ;)

The NC-Guidelimes state:
§1(2) Nicknames (f.e. „Katsche“ Schwarzenbeck), artist names (f.e. „DJ Ötzi“) or fantasy names (f.e. „Pepsi Cola“, „Baum Stamm“) are not allowed. Riders with such names will be made stateless.
The exception is, if a person is mainly known undee that name, f.e. Jeff Bridges, whose real name would be Jeffrey Bridges. I don't know anything about Cindy Yamamoto though, but i would give the benefit of the doubt.
Hum
First Name : Mayumi Cindy
Family name : Yamamoto

Mayumi Yamamoto refer more at 2 or 3 others instead of her as she was know as Cindy only

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:45 pm
by team fl
For me it would be okay as I see the your point and as it was explained with reason why. Hunsrueck seems fine with it too, so the rider will have at least two out of three needed "OK"s ;).

But I guess you could also argue against it according to the NC-Guidelines. Anyway, we've been told to not be too overly nitpicking (De La Hoya has that opinion too I guess)... As said, I am fine with it.

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:46 pm
by team fl
auxilium torino wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:19 pm
FL, oscar is a famous de la hoya, but the name give also in others spanish speaknd latin country...
Come from Spanish ( give several town or comunity in spain), also can found it in every spanish ex colonie, others as typical native latinaamerican name that come from Maya, Azteca or Inca cultur.
I find wrong to delete venezuelan name, that was a Gran Colombia nation after the discovery from america, wo you find it spanish and italian name!
After thinking twice about it, just try it again. Will be ok from me.

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:34 am
by auxilium torino
Thank you!

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:45 pm
by Mangahn
https://www.heiligenlexikon.de/Biograph ... _Kiew.html

Wladimir Kiew ist ein Name.
Nur weil unser System es nicht zulässt den vollständigen Namen zu schreiben ist die Behauptung, der Großfürst hätte keinen korrekten Namen getragen sicher nicht zu halten.

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:52 pm
by Robyklebt
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
:? :? :? :?
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:24 pm
by Hunsrueck
Mangahn wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:45 pm
https://www.heiligenlexikon.de/Biograph ... _Kiew.html

Wladimir Kiew ist ein Name.
Nur weil unser System es nicht zulässt den vollständigen Namen zu schreiben ist die Behauptung, der Großfürst hätte keinen korrekten Namen getragen sicher nicht zu halten.
Wie in deinem Link schon richtig beschrieben:

Familienname: Swjatoslavič

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:31 pm
by Mangahn
Wirklich euer Ernst? Staatenlos?

:lol:

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:43 am
by team fl
Mangahn wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:31 pm
Wirklich euer Ernst? Staatenlos?

:lol:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wladimir_I.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_the_Great

Have a look at the russian version too.

And what Hunsrueck said. Case closed.

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:51 pm
by olaf
why remove cerys Mathews nationality? Cerys [cerys] as a girls' name is of Welsh derivation, and the name Cerys means "love". Cerys is a variant form of Carys (Welsh): from "caru". As of 2014, 53.6% of all known bearers of the surname Matthews were residents of the United States (frequency 1:2,136), 19.2% of England (1:917), 8.1% of Australia (1:932), 4.9% of South Africa (1:3,498), 4.8% of Canada (1:2,425), 2.0% of Wales (1:492), 1.1% of New Zealand (1:1,251), 1.0% of the Republic of Ireland (1:1,445) and 1.0% of Jamaica (1:908).

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:19 am
by team fl
olaf wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:51 pm
why remove cerys Mathews nationality? Cerys [cerys] as a girls' name is of Welsh derivation, and the name Cerys means "love". Cerys is a variant form of Carys (Welsh): from "caru". As of 2014, 53.6% of all known bearers of the surname Matthews were residents of the United States (frequency 1:2,136), 19.2% of England (1:917), 8.1% of Australia (1:932), 4.9% of South Africa (1:3,498), 4.8% of Canada (1:2,425), 2.0% of Wales (1:492), 1.1% of New Zealand (1:1,251), 1.0% of the Republic of Ireland (1:1,445) and 1.0% of Jamaica (1:908).
Hi olaf

Cerys is perfectly fine, but Matthews is the common spelling of the family name, not Mathews (with one "t"). And your argument about the name is also with Matthews, not Mathews.

Anyway, this would not be to big of a problem though as the family name "Mathews" seems to exist too, but additionally: We found Cerys Matthews: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerys_Matthews and hence deemed your rider's name to be a clone of her. And I quote the NC-Guidelines:
§ 2:
(1) It’s not allowed to alter names of real existing celebrities (sports, politics, music, films, etc.) either by adding, deleting or changing letters (f.e.. Lance Armstronger, Alejand Valverde, Andy Shlek, Alberto Kontador).
Then again, I haven't known that singer yet, so how famous can she be. And as Mathews exist too... So in doubt pro player, Cerys gets the nationality back. Next time, find a proper male name for your rider, it's embarassing :P

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:19 pm
by olaf
Next time, find a proper male name for your rider, it's embarassing :P
we are a gender neutral team lol