Helper of the Year Award 2010

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Helper of the Year 2010

Poll ended at Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:46 pm

Luca Arriatti
5
18%
Carlos Gardel
7
25%
Ivan Krajak
2
7%
Ashok Kumar
0
No votes
Bernd Möhnetal
1
4%
Helmfried Ohnemut
1
4%
Bernd Tanne
4
14%
Emanuele Terranova
2
7%
Jean Valjean
0
No votes
Getulio Vargas
6
21%
 
Total votes: 28

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Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by Lizard » Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:22 pm

Helper of the Year Award 2010
Every year the Radsportfreaks-Community finds together to decide which are the best of the best in our virtual cycling world. This year again, we honor the best of the rest, the one's that donated their performance for their captains. What I am talking about is: the best helper in 2010.

How to:
Each user may nominate 3 riders. The 10 being picked most are going to be implemented in the final voting.
Nominations: 01.12.2010-15.12.2010
Votings: 16.12.2010-30.12.2010
Formalities: Please only one post in this thread per user, if you would like to correct your nominations then use the EDIT-function. Apart from that please order your nominations from 1-3 and (if you'd like to) put a comment for why the rider deserves to win the award.
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Re: Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by Quick » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:27 pm

1. Luca Arriatti

2. Ivan Krajak

3. Carlos Gardel
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Re: Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by Gera » Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:20 pm

Quick wrote:1. Luca Arriatti

2. Ivan Krajak

3. Carlos Gardel

Das unterschreibe ich mal so ... hab mal geschaut und keine anderen auf Anhieb gefunden.
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Re: Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:23 pm

1 Getulio Vargas
2 Emanuele Terranova
3 Jean Valjean

1 Everybody says Gardel, but Vargas as important... Truebas 700 wins, probably not half as many without Vargas/Gardel.
2 Not meant to disrespect Terranova. He had lots of success as a leader of course. But he was an excellent support rider as well. TdF, Choice: Stage win with Terranova, very good chances to get it vs let Terranova work to try to gain time in the GC. Terranova and his manager took the risky option, they went for the GC instead of the stage win that seemed almost sure. It didn't work, but it showed the character of Terranova. Not a diva that wants all the wins, but a guy that can and does what's in the best interest of his team. Very impressive and seldom seen.
3 Typical early rider, good reg, he only has 50 actually, less than other support riders of his type. The first in tempo usually, then has to ride and ride and ride and ride. Valjean can do more though, he has 72 TT, which is of course very useful in TTT. And sets him apart from others of his kind. Still only 25. 108 races in 129 days. That shows how valuable he is. 21 stage wins or one day wins in that time frame for his team
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Re: Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by Alkworld » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:37 pm

Robyklebt wrote:1 Everybody says Gardel, but Vargas as important... Truebas 700 wins, probably not half as many without Vargas/Gardel.
I'd nominate both of them together. In maybe 95% of the hill sprint races they were both there with Trueba. One w/o the other wouldn't have been even half that effective, mainly because of the lower intimidation effect. If I would have to choose only one of them, it would be Vargas because of his 65 Reg.

But I am not choosing my own riders, so here are my nominations:
1. Ivan Krajak - The possible rider of the year wouldn't be in that position without a strong helper
2. Ashok Kumar - If Elb would have more time for races, Ashok would maybe have in tempo the most km of all riders this year
3. Bernd Tanne - Most important helper of Jonas Karatek, who was on the way of catching up with Trueba before he was sold

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Re: Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by Allagen » Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:29 pm

i like successful helpers. so the winner is....

1. Helmfried Ohnemut - allways a good helper for Spaten or Schlauberger, but with good attacks and he won 4 tours and 5 stages, 1 young jersey without beeing a leader. and still nice skills for a helper but not for a leader.

2. Bernd Möhnetal - It´s very close between Ohnemut and Möhnetal. He is an important part of RVA, especially for Schlauberger and Spaten or the Sprinters. 154 Races since Feb 2010 and he is known as Mr. Escape. Won Amstel Gold Race and 8 other Races. 8. Place at MSR, won the Wallonie Tour, but he allways was a good helper and no leader. He won the green jersey last tour

3. Nelson Muldaka. Bought him at October and please take a look at Schlaubergers 10 Saisons withour Nelson, 7 Stages, 2 Saisons with Nelson 7 Stages, 1 Tour, 2 Sprinterjerseys. and now he is able to win races. 2 stages and the tourment of Giro d´Abruzzo, damn good helper


3 Riders from RV Allagen, but i like them most and i do not know a lot of other successful helpers.
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Re: Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by Bear » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:28 pm

Well done Allagen. But it's always!

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Re: Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by Zentaron » Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:29 am

Allagen wrote:3 Riders from RV Allagen, but i like them most and i do not know a lot of other successful helpers.
Why then nominating at all? Then let others nominate riders and vote for the chosen ones. But nominating own riders is the biggest crap.
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Re: Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by Quick » Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:05 am

You forgot Allagens most important goal is to be crappy all the time.
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Re: Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by Lizard » Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:51 pm

Seriously, I dont really want to support you nominating three of your own riders (one would've been okay I guess), so if no one else wants to nominate those riders, I will not let them join the votings.
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Re: Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by Bear » Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:53 pm

Don't take that serious, it's the new charming Allagen.

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Re: Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by Allagen » Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:58 am

dachte man darf hier nur 1x was posten und jeder die fahrer die er mag? weiß gerade nicht was eure meinungen da hier zu suchen haben? Aber schließe mich mal den nichteinhalten der Regeln an.

ihr mögt andere Fahrer, ist doch okay, muss doch keiner Ohnemut oder Möhnetal, oder Nelson nominieren wenn er nicht mag. ich mag die halt mehr als andere, wieso auch nicht. Haben in meinen augen großes geleistet, in euren nicht, auch okay. dachte hier sollte jeder Seine Meinung äußern und nicht Eure Meinung...

Und in der Erklärung am Anfang steht auch nirgends geschrieben dass es verboten sei 3 von sich zu nominieren. Hingegen lese ich sachen wie "Formalities: Please only one post in this thread per user" aber daran haltet ihr euch ja recht gut.
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Re: Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by Zentaron » Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:14 am

Laß mich mal nachzählen. Allagen postet Schwachsinn. Der einzige, der vor dir doppelt gepostet hat, war Quick. Wo ist das "ihr"?
Ja, jetzt darfst du "ihr" sagen, weil ich mich dazu hinreißen lasse, auf deinen bescheuerten Post zu antworten.
Und es gehört sich in meinen Augen eben von selbst, daß man mal über den eigenen Tellerand schaut und nicht so arrogant, egoistisch, was auch immer ist, nur seine eigenen Fahrer zu betrachten.
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Re: Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by Allagen » Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:54 am

auch das ist deine meinung, dass das egoistisch, arrogant und schwachsinnig ist. tollerant seit IHR nicht gerade. Kaum hat man mal eine andere Meinung wie IHR und schon regt IHR euch auf. bear äußert sich 2x, quick 2x, wiz äußert sich auch extra nochmal dazu ohne fahrer zu nennen. wie gesagt, dieser thread soll nicht dazu dienen zu diskutieren wieso man die fahrer nominiert hat, sondern dafür, fahrer zu nominieren. mit persönlichen gründen. wenn ihr meint das fahrer x dazu gehört, kein problem (also für mich), nur wieso sollte fahrer y dann nicht genannnt werden? weil es euch nicht passt? sowas nenn ich mal demokratisch. was erstellen wir denn hier für ne wahllist wenn ihr die direkt einschränkt und manipuliert? werden ja sehen wer am ende der frist es in die wahl/top 10 geschafft hat und gut ist. wenn meine fahrer es durch meinen post schaffen, wieso auch nicht? okay, weil ihr das nicht wollt, aber bei einer normalen wahl wäre es okay. danach können immer noch die user entscheiden ob man für ohnemut seine stimme abgibt oder nicht. allerdings wird hier vor der wahl gleich mächtig auf den putz gehauen, also nicht lutz, aber so wird direkt versucht die wahl vorher schon zu beeinflussen. kaum postet man mal etwas anders wie ihr euch das so vorstellt, ist es arrogant, schwachsinnig, egoistisch, dabei ist jemanden die meinung zu diktieren schwachsinnig, egoistisch und arrogant...
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Re: Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by team fl » Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:07 am

trolleditrolll... hmm... lecker schmeckts...

Ok, der Post macht ohne Erklärung wenig Sinn merke ich gerade. Also: Last doch die Leute nominieren wen sie wollen. Ansonsten legt in den Regeln fest, dass man eigene Fahrer nicht nominieren darf. Und wenn sie gewählt werden, waren sie ja zurecht nominiert. Wenn nicht, dann nicht und auch nichts kaput gegangen dabei. Verstehe die ganze Aufregung nicht. Wenn man das dann auch noch kommentiert, braucht man sich nicht zu wundern, wenn ein Gegenkommentar auftaucht. Selber schuld, würde ich sagen. Mal ganz abgesehen von der Ernsthaftigkeit der Aktion.
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Re: Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by Bear » Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:03 pm

3.

Finde das super hier. Bin sogar ein wenig erregt dabei.

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Re: Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:48 pm

yes but how about going back to nominations now?
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Re: Helper of the Year Award 2010

Post by gaurain rx » Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:07 pm

Dites les germains, faudrait songer à arrêter de se prendre le melon :)

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