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Änderung der Nationalität von Conway Mohamed:, "Zimbabwe" zu "Staatenlos"
Begründung: #keinName#


"Other top riders include the likes of .... , Conway Mohamed, ..."
zitiert nach:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwe_C ... Federation
(3ter Absatz)

der arme Junge wartet folglich auf die Rückerstattung seiner Papiere...
cheers deuse

edith sagt dank ob der schnellen antwort...

deuseburger wrote:moin miteinander...
Änderung der Nationalität von Conway Mohamed:, "Zimbabwe" zu "Staatenlos"
Begründung: #keinName#


"Other top riders include the likes of .... , Conway Mohamed, ..."
zitiert nach:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwe_C ... Federation
(3ter Absatz)

der arme Junge wartet folglich auf die Rückerstattung seiner Papiere...
cheers deuse

Pass ist unterwegs, Prozedere ist ja bekannt

hallo jungs

Wäre jemand von euch so nett anzuerkennen das der Name nicht verunstaltet wurde und das es ronny´s und robert´s gibt die SaynWitgenstein heißen können
und aus Deutschland kommen ...... ich kann nix dafür das es eine Buchstabengrenze gibt und ich ein t entfernen musste.

ich hätte gerne für beide Fahrer die Nation Deu wieder .... dankeschön

Kult wrote:hallo jungs

Wäre jemand von euch so nett anzuerkennen das der Name nicht verunstaltet wurde und das es ronny´s und robert´s gibt die SaynWitgenstein heißen können
und aus Deutschland kommen ...... ich kann nix dafür das es eine Buchstabengrenze gibt und ich ein t entfernen musste.

ich hätte gerne für beide Fahrer die Nation Deu wieder .... dankeschön

Der (korrekte) Name Sayn-Wittgenstein ist leider eher selten in Deutschland: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayn-Wittgenstein. Und für die Buchstabengrenze können wir auch nichts. Da hättest du einfach einen anderen Namen wählen können. Da werden sich übrigens noch ein paar andere beschweren, z.B. der hier: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfe%2B585,_Senior

Ich werde das aber mal intern ansprechen, ob SaynWitgenstein angesichts des Bezugs zu oben genanntem Familienamen ok ist.

Gruss, FL

danke....

What´s the problem with my irish Owen Owen? It´s a first name as well as a surname!
Please check it!

Team GAK wrote:What´s the problem with my irish Owen Owen? It´s a first name as well as a surname!
Please check it!

Pass is on the way

Why Nicolas De La Cuadra lost his Equatorian nationality ?

Ok, old painter is spanish. But that's a common family name nowadays in Ecuador and Nicolas is also common first name.

Give him his passport back as soon as possible

noo wait till the 29th

olmania wrote:Why Nicolas De La Cuadra lost his Equatorian nationality ?

Ok, old painter is spanish. But that's a common family name nowadays in Ecuador and Nicolas is also common first name.

Give him his passport back as soon as possible

He should get the Spanish passort then.

Alkworld wrote:

olmania wrote:Why Nicolas De La Cuadra lost his Equatorian nationality ?

Ok, old painter is spanish. But that's a common family name nowadays in Ecuador and Nicolas is also common first name.

Give him his passport back as soon as possible

He should get the Spanish passort then.

He is from Guyaquil !

Give him his passport, and the good one

and don't you know his famous great great great uncle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_de_la_Cuadra ?

olmania wrote:

Alkworld wrote:

olmania wrote:Why Nicolas De La Cuadra lost his Equatorian nationality ?

Ok, old painter is spanish. But that's a common family name nowadays in Ecuador and Nicolas is also common first name.

Give him his passport back as soon as possible

He should get the Spanish passort then.

He is from Guyaquil !

Give him his passport, and the good one

and don't you know his famous great great great uncle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_de_la_Cuadra ?

Again, please

Nicolas De La Cuadra is a real Person from Spain, so i can give him the Spain Passport.

OK for you or without nation better

Hunsrueck wrote:Nicolas De La Cuadra is a real Person from Spain, so i can give him the Spain Passport.

OK for you or without nation better

Damn ! Are you stupid ?

It's probably thousands of men called like this in Spain + Latin America.

If he can not have his equatorian passport, then it means that all latin american riders should have Spanish passport or not have nationality because basics of Latin American names are ... Spanish !

Think logical instead of being focus on that damn old painter that existed at time of colonialism in Ecuador !

olmania wrote:

Hunsrueck wrote:Nicolas De La Cuadra is a real Person from Spain, so i can give him the Spain Passport.

OK for you or without nation better

Damn ! Are you stupid ?

It's probably thousands of men called like this in Spain + Latin America.

If he can not have his equatorian passport, then it means that all latin american riders should have Spanish passport or not have nationality because basics of Latin American names are ... Spanish !

Think logical instead of being focus on that damn old painter that existed at time of colonialism in Ecuador !

Yes I'm stupid because I tried to help you!

Hunsrueck wrote:

olmania wrote:

Hunsrueck wrote:Nicolas De La Cuadra is a real Person from Spain, so i can give him the Spain Passport.

OK for you or without nation better

Damn ! Are you stupid ?

It's probably thousands of men called like this in Spain + Latin America.

If he can not have his equatorian passport, then it means that all latin american riders should have Spanish passport or not have nationality because basics of Latin American names are ... Spanish !

Think logical instead of being focus on that damn old painter that existed at time of colonialism in Ecuador !

Yes I'm stupid because I tried to help you!

How ? By telling me you can give only Spanish nationality ?

As I said, in that case, all guys from South America should have only Spanish nationality !

Hunsrueck wrote:Nicolas De La Cuadra is a real Person from Spain, so i can give him the Spain Passport.

OK for you or without nation better

Like Tony Martin is a real person from Germany, but I am sure there is at least 10 others Tony Martin just in France.

Anyway, I thaught NC didn't give nationality for a rider when his name isn't real or at least doesn't sound realistic. But looks rules change without we know that.

Pokemon Club wrote:

Hunsrueck wrote:Nicolas De La Cuadra is a real Person from Spain, so i can give him the Spain Passport.

OK for you or without nation better

Like Tony Martin is a real person from Germany, but I am sure there is at least 10 others Tony Martin just in France.

Anyway, I thaught NC didn't give nationality for a rider when his name isn't real or at least doesn't sound realistic. But looks rules change without we know that.

Didn't we have a rule (maybe not written down, but used in practise), that if there's a real person with the name that's chosen, the guy in RSF/C4F should have the respective nationality as it would have to be treated like some kind of clone otherwise? For cyclists and real famous persons this certainly makes sense. Meaning that Tony Martin in RSF/C4F should be German, as he's a famous German cyclist. If that should apply for a not so well-known painter a long time ago could be discussed. In that particular case you could argue either way.

Alkworld wrote:

Pokemon Club wrote:

Hunsrueck wrote:Nicolas De La Cuadra is a real Person from Spain, so i can give him the Spain Passport.

OK for you or without nation better

Like Tony Martin is a real person from Germany, but I am sure there is at least 10 others Tony Martin just in France.

Anyway, I thaught NC didn't give nationality for a rider when his name isn't real or at least doesn't sound realistic. But looks rules change without we know that.

Didn't we have a rule (maybe not written down, but used in practise), that if there's a real person with the name that's chosen, the guy in RSF/C4F should have the respective nationality as it would have to be treated like some kind of clone otherwise? For cyclists and real famous persons this certainly makes sense. Meaning that Tony Martin in RSF/C4F should be German, as he's a famous German cyclist. If that should apply for a not so well-known painter a long time ago could be discussed. In that particular case you could argue either way.

Here is the point :

If that should apply for a not so well-known painter a long time ago could be discussed. In that particular case you could argue either way.

Because I did not even know he was existing, I just wanted to use family name of this Ecuadorian :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_de_la_Cuadra

And for the famous names, I understand it's applying for cyclists and very famous persons (no prob to refuse a canadian Barack Obama) ! But in that case, seems to be an abuse of that ''rule'' ...

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin

So we have : 2 American, 1 Canadian, 1 Australian, 1 English. And that just with wiki, without anonymous people. And you want break balls with a stupid rules like "if there is a famous cyclist the rider need to have the same nationality than him" ? You don't think there is thing more important than that in the game ? A rider with a realist name and with maybe a lot of person who name like that can be American but not English ? French but not Belgian ? Spanish but not Bolivian ? Just be serious for one time guys.

Fact No.1: There is a (dead) painter called Nicolas de la Cuerta, he's a spanish citizen

Fact(s) No.2: The family name de la Cuerta exists in Ecuador. Nicolas de la Cuerta exists in Ecuador too.

Fact No. 3: There is no explicit rule about WHEN a rider has to get the citizenship of a real existing (more or less) famous person


These are the facts. So I guess, it's a decision from case to case. If you want to propose a new rule dealing with that, feel free. Until then, the NC will discuss this internally and decide (by coin toss or sth. like that )

olmania wrote:Why Nicolas De La Cuadra lost his Equatorian nationality ?

Ok, old painter is spanish. But that's a common family name nowadays in Ecuador and Nicolas is also common first name.

Give him his passport back as soon as possible

my colleagues of the nc could convince the stupid hunsrueck with arguments, and the pass is on the way!

Hunsrueck wrote:

olmania wrote:Why Nicolas De La Cuadra lost his Equatorian nationality ?

Ok, old painter is spanish. But that's a common family name nowadays in Ecuador and Nicolas is also common first name.

Give him his passport back as soon as possible

my colleagues of the nc could convince the stupid hunsrueck with arguments, and the pass is on the way!

You know we love you

Pokemon Club wrote:

Hunsrueck wrote:Nicolas De La Cuadra is a real Person from Spain, so i can give him the Spain Passport.

OK for you or without nation better

Like Tony Martin is a real person from Germany, but I am sure there is at least 10 others Tony Martin just in France.

Anyway, I thaught NC didn't give nationality for a rider when his name isn't real or at least doesn't sound realistic. But looks rules change without we know that.

@ poke: help your wry observations determined not

team fl wrote:

Hunsrueck wrote:

olmania wrote:Why Nicolas De La Cuadra lost his Equatorian nationality ?

Ok, old painter is spanish. But that's a common family name nowadays in Ecuador and Nicolas is also common first name.

Give him his passport back as soon as possible

my colleagues of the nc could convince the stupid hunsrueck with arguments, and the pass is on the way!

You know we love you

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