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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by CrazyV » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:50 pm

Wookie wrote:
CrazyV wrote:I don't know.
But where is the Problem by Kongsroe???
Give me please the Nation or Change the Name to Kongsroed...thanks ;)
The problem is that this isn't a real name.
We can't change names, only buh and leso can. Write leso a pm, maybe he will do it.
Then give him please the norge Nation.
I think that a lost of names for german riders aren't real names...or better, you dont find someone in Google who have this Name...

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by Wookie » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:53 pm

CrazyV wrote:Then give him please the norge Nation.
I think that a lost of names for german riders aren't real names...or better, you dont find someone in Google who have this Name...
Show us a proof and he will get his pass back.

And no, actually all german names are real names (at least they should :D)

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by CrazyV » Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:41 pm

What a nursery School is the nations committee?...sorry, but this case is a joke from you...not less and not more!
I gave you explanations and examples and this reaction, childlike.

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by Wookie » Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:48 pm

CrazyV wrote:What a nursery School is the nations committee?...sorry, but this case is a joke from you...not less and not more!
I gave you explanations and examples and this reaction, childlike.
Yes, you gave me explanations for Kongsröd/Kongsroed and Kongsro, but not for Kongroe.
Is it that difficult to understand?

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by team fl » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:22 am

Wookie wrote:
CrazyV wrote:What a nursery School is the nations committee?...sorry, but this case is a joke from you...not less and not more!
I gave you explanations and examples and this reaction, childlike.
Yes, you gave me explanations for Kongsröd/Kongsroed and Kongsro, but not for Kongroe.
Is it that difficult to understand?
Seriously, there is not much to discuss about. Rider is not Norwegian because his name:

a) does not sound realisitic for Norway to the NC. This opinion has not been changed by the player's arguments (would be even a clone of Kongsröd or Kongsro with the player's explanation)

and

b) does not exist in reality for Norway.

End of story.
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by Team Hockey » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:56 pm

Dominik Luft
Michel Maaßen
Michel Weidekamp
Christian Wendler

hatten alle die deutsche flagge...warum ist die flagge weg? sollten alle als deutsche angezeigt werden.

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by team fl » Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:41 am

Hallo Team Hockey

Auf den ersten Blick sehe ich auch keinen Grund, wieso diesen Fahrer die Nationalität aberkannt wurde. Bist du dir sicher, dass die vorher die deutsche Flagge hatten? Mein Tipp wäre hier fast gewesen, dass die als Staatenlos eingetragen wurden... Evtl. kann sich der Verantwortliche aus dem NC kurz hier dazu äussern. Ich hab es auch im internen Chat angesprochen.

Die Fahrer erhalten Stand jetzt auf jeden Fall die deutsche Nationalität zurück. Wie immer kann das aus Verfahrensgründen ein paar Tage dauern (Antrag läuft drei Tage ab Änderung der Nationalität).

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by gigi-acer » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:05 pm

tag mal wieder

warum wurde die Nationalität meines Fahrer

Athanasios Thanasis

als Griche nicht anerkannt

das ist ein Typischer Name und es war ein Sportler, was stimmt denn jetzt schon wieder nicht

Bitte um Antwort

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by Wookie » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:49 pm

gigi-acer wrote:tag mal wieder

warum wurde die Nationalität meines Fahrer

Athanasios Thanasis

als Griche nicht anerkannt

das ist ein Typischer Name und es war ein Sportler, was stimmt denn jetzt schon wieder nicht

Bitte um Antwort
Wer hat sie ihm denn entzogen?
Auf die Schnelle kann ich jetzt nur sagen, dass "Thanasis" scheinbar sein Spitzname ist und als Vorname genommen wird. "Antetokounmpo" ist sein Nachname, sprich du hast nur zwei Vornamen.

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by team fl » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:19 pm

Thanasis ist die Kurzform von Athanasios und ist ein männlicher VORNAME. Falls du eine Quelle hast, dass Thanasis auch als Familienname existiert, dann her damit. Ansonsten entspricht der Name nicht den NC Guidelines.
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by gigi-acer » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:00 am

kann oder darf ich dass ändern ?

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by gigi-acer » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:03 am

und ein Telefonbuch von Grichenland liegt mir nicht vor.
Wobei aber auch Lokale mit dem Namen exisitieren
Thanasis

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by team fl » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:56 am

Den Namen können nur die Admins ändern, wir leider nicht.
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by gigi-acer » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:46 pm

an wen soll ich mich wenden, da ok hab ich ja, wenn ich recht verstehe !

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by team fl » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:50 pm

gigi-acer wrote:an wen soll ich mich wenden, da ok hab ich ja, wenn ich recht verstehe !
Buhmann oder leso.
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by olmania » Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:01 am

I just got this from Rapid Vitesse :

Änderung der Nationalität von Iah Gabr:, "Egypt" zu "Staatenlos"
Begründung: #keinName#

I disagree. First name and last name are both used, f.e

http://www.behindthename.com/name/iah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Gabr

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by team fl » Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:21 am

olmania wrote:I just got this from Rapid Vitesse :

Änderung der Nationalität von Iah Gabr:, "Egypt" zu "Staatenlos"
Begründung: #keinName#

I disagree. First name and last name are both used, f.e

http://www.behindthename.com/name/iah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Gabr
Thanks for the information. Passport is on the way. Takes the usual three days due to technical reasons.
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by olmania » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:15 pm

Thank you ;)

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by CrazyV » Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:13 pm

Hey sorry, aber warum nehmt ihr meinen Norwegern immer die Staatsangehörigkeit weg?
Wollt ihr mich einfach ärgern?

Das mal ein "ø" als ö ausgesprochen wird, aber ein ø nicht beim Namen geben möglich ist, solltet ihr doch einsehen.

Hier ein Beispiel eines echten Norwegers mit diesem Namen: (auf dieser Website auch mit ö geschrieben)

http://www.transfermarkt.ch/johannes-gr ... ler/268398

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by Hunsrueck » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:43 pm

CrazyV wrote:Hey sorry, aber warum nehmt ihr meinen Norwegern immer die Staatsangehörigkeit weg?
Wollt ihr mich einfach ärgern?

Das mal ein "ø" als ö ausgesprochen wird, aber ein ø nicht beim Namen geben möglich ist, solltet ihr doch einsehen.

Hier ein Beispiel eines echten Norwegers mit diesem Namen: (auf dieser Website auch mit ö geschrieben)

http://www.transfermarkt.ch/johannes-gr ... ler/268398
1. will dich hier bestimmt niemand ärgern.
2. sehen wir auf den ersten Blick nur die Namen der Fahrer.
3. danke für deine Info der Pass ist auf dem Weg, dauert 2-3 Tage

Gruß

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by Tompot » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:53 am

Hi All,

Most of my riders have been switched to "no nationality"...
I can't understand : Aimé DeTous or Richard Vaincre could perfectly be French names. Aimé or Richard are clearly French first names.
The only one I cannot complain would be Berg Steiger, since Berg is not a German first Name but rather scandinavian...Even though, for having lived in North Germany, you can clearly meet Scandinavian names over there !

Ok, all names are Play of words, but None is a abuse in any sense.

Whx not allowing these ? You don't like creativity ?

Kindly let me know.
Cheers
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by team fl » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:39 pm

Tompot wrote:Hi All,

Most of my riders have been switched to "no nationality"...
I can't understand : Aimé DeTous or Richard Vaincre could perfectly be French names. Aimé or Richard are clearly French first names.
The only one I cannot complain would be Berg Steiger, since Berg is not a German first Name but rather scandinavian...Even though, for having lived in North Germany, you can clearly meet Scandinavian names over there !

Ok, all names are Play of words, but None is a abuse in any sense.

Whx not allowing these ? You don't like creativity ?

Kindly let me know.
Cheers
Tompot
Hi Tompot

It's less about first names but more about family names. According to my knowledge, neither DeTous nor Vaincre are realistic french family names. DeTous just means "of all" and vaincre is a French verb meaning "to win" or " to beat somebody" Hence, both have been made stateless. If you have a serious source that proves that both names exist as french family names, the riders will get their nationality back of course.

Berg Steiger as a name is not realistic (-> Bersteiger, you get it I guess). And Berg is a family name, but not a realistic first name, even less in this combination.
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by Tompot » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:22 pm

Thanks for you Feedback FL.
Understood for berg Steiger--> obvious...
Vaincre or DeTous could be a French Name, sure there are some People with these names, but anyway, no big deal since they will never get selected in any National Team anyway ;)

Cheers
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by chartreusecycle » Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:41 pm

Hi FL,

you removed the nationality of Maxime Mammouth, clearly it is not a common name but it do exist:
http://www.journaldesfemmes.com/nom-de- ... outh.shtml

"14 personnes portent le nom Mammouth aujourd'hui en France selon les estimations de L'Internaute.
Le nom Mammouth figure au 208 504e rang des noms les plus portés en France."

If there is still any trouble to give Maxime back is nationality, could I propose another name ?

Cheers,
Hugo
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by team fl » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:15 pm

chartreusecycle wrote:Hi FL,

you removed the nationality of Maxime Mammouth, clearly it is not a common name but it do exist:
http://www.journaldesfemmes.com/nom-de- ... outh.shtml

"14 personnes portent le nom Mammouth aujourd'hui en France selon les estimations de L'Internaute.
Le nom Mammouth figure au 208 504e rang des noms les plus portés en France."

If there is still any trouble to give Maxime back is nationality, could I propose another name ?

Cheers,
Hugo


Perfect, thanks. Rider will get his flag back first tomorrow morning (plus three days due to technical reasons).

Cheers, FL
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