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Post by S L Benfica » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:02 pm

Team Franconia wrote:
S L Benfica wrote:I have a problem. wrong name of one rider. "Duarte Cardoso" is a typical Portuguese name.
you can not change?

tanks
get his passport back...duarte was known only as lastname till now
OK, thanks! :)

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Post by Wookie » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:06 pm

Blues Racing wrote:
Wookie wrote:�nderung der Nationalit�t von Roman vanUden:, "New Zealand" zu "frei w�hlbar"
Begr�ndung: Nationality and name don´t pass together . Please be more serious by choosing the nationality. You can choose a new nationality under Extra.
-> http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/ri ... derid=9520

I changed it back to New Zealand
Hm, can´t remember that i wrote such a "Begründung", but sry, i only saw/found "Lucas van Uden" and he´s dutch.

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Post by Wookie » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:09 pm

Hunsrueck wrote:
Nachricht von Wookie(National Comitee), 03.11.2011
�nderung der Nationalit�t von Aleksander vonKrusestern:, "Estland" zu "Staatenlos"
Begr�ndung: Kein Name! Fahrer wird deshalb Staatenlos. Beim nächsten mal bitte glaubwürdige Namen wählen.
Hab jetzt noch einmal nachgeprüft und muß sagen ich bin baff^^

Aleksander dürfte ja nicht das Problem sein, sicherheitshalber dennoch der Link:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksander_Antson

Von Krusestern hab ich jetzt auch gesehen, daß es Varianten davon gibt.
Hier habe ich ihn her:
http://www.manor.ee/?id=937&manor_id=5

Und dann gibt es ihn auch noch als von Krusenstern
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Johan ... rusenstern

Wäre schade wenn Aleksander seinen Pass nicht zurück bekommt.

Gruß Hunsrueck
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Post by claw » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:59 pm

"kein name" zumindest nicht ganz richtig, wenn ihr mich fragt
andere nation uU, aber ein möglicher name im deutschsprachigen raum wäre es ja schon
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Post by Hunsrueck » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:27 pm

claw wrote:"kein name" zumindest nicht ganz richtig, wenn ihr mich fragt
andere nation uU, aber ein möglicher name im deutschsprachigen raum wäre es ja schon
Ist wirklich schwierig mit meinem von krusestern, gebe ich zu :oops:

Aber eine neue Nation sollte doch drin sein! Ist ja jetzt kein Name der gar nicht auftaucht oder den es nicht geben könnte.
Estland wäre zwar meine Favoritennation, könnte aber auch mit einer anderen Nation leben. Ohne Nationalität müsste der arme Kerl das Team wieder verlassen.

Gruß Hunsrueck

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Post by Rockstar Inc » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:34 pm

claw wrote:"kein name" zumindest nicht ganz richtig, wenn ihr mich fragt
andere nation uU, aber ein möglicher name im deutschsprachigen raum wäre es ja schon
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Post by Wookie » Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:21 pm

Hab einen Antrag für den Fahrer gestellt. Überlass Hunsrueck die Wahl, welche deutschsprachige Nation er auswählt.

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Post by Hunsrueck » Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:33 pm

Wookie wrote:Hab einen Antrag für den Fahrer gestellt. Überlass Hunsrueck die Wahl, welche deutschsprachige Nation er auswählt.

Danke, Aleksander wird jetzt deutscher Bürger:-)

Gruß

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Post by team fl » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:00 pm

Nachricht von Wookie(National Comitee), 06.11.2011
�nderung der Nationalit�t von Niels Hörnö:, "Dänemark" zu "Liechtenstein"
Begr�ndung: Ist der Name eines Zahnarztes in Liechtenstein. Nehme also auch an, dass er Liechtensteiner ist.
You are assuming wrong (without any evidence at all!!!)

The best argument I have ever read. Seriously... Of course everybody that lives and works in Liechtenstein is a Liechtenstein citizen. Forgot that.

OF COURSE HE IS DANISH!!! come on.


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Post by Robyklebt » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:29 pm

They can't ask everybody per PN. There are way too many "critical" riders per month. In the end this is the PN. 'Asking' you if that guy fits to Denmark since they seem not to think so.

The problem is more how did anybody get the idea it doesn't sound danish? That's all it needs actually. Or can anybody show me a rule where it says the name has to exist? There is no such rule. There are no rules at all anymore after all.
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Post by team fl » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:38 pm

Of course you cannot ask everybody via PN. But Niels is a common danish name, Hörnö is a common danish name. And why the hell should i give a Liechtenstein citizen that exists a Danish nationality (just to be clear: Niels Hörnö is a Danish citizen)?! Obviously Wookie googled Niels and found out that he is a dentist in Liechtenstein. Now assuming he is a Liechtenstein citizen and no Danish citizen makes me really having one question in my mind: why? Especially considering the background of the long discussion about Liechtenstein riders just a few month ago...
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Post by Wookie » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:52 pm

Das mit der PN hat Roby ja schon gut beantwortet.
Für mich klingt "Hörnö" halt nicht dänisch, habe daher gegooglet und nichts gefunden, dass darauf schließen lässt, dass er Däne ist. Hab nur gesehen, dass es einen Niels Hörnö gibt der in Liechtenstein arbeitet/wohnt. Kam also zu dem Schluss, dass die liechtensteinische Nationalität also eher passt als die dänische da ich dafür ja keinen Beleg gefunden habe.
Und die lange Diskussion hab ich nicht verfolgt bzw mitbekommen.

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Post by NoPikouze » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:23 pm

In order to avoid such a mess, it's now pretty obvious that liechstentijn should be banned from RSF.

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Post by team fl » Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:36 am

Wookie wrote:Das mit der PN hat Roby ja schon gut beantwortet.
Für mich klingt "Hörnö" halt nicht dänisch, habe daher gegooglet und nichts gefunden, dass darauf schließen lässt, dass er Däne ist. Hab nur gesehen, dass es einen Niels Hörnö gibt der in Liechtenstein arbeitet/wohnt. Kam also zu dem Schluss, dass die liechtensteinische Nationalität also eher passt als die dänische da ich dafür ja keinen Beleg gefunden habe.
Und die lange Diskussion hab ich nicht verfolgt bzw mitbekommen.
Na ja, eigentlich heisst der gute ja auch Hørnø, aber 1. geht das bei RSF nicht mit den Sonderzeichen und 2. schreibt sich auch Niels mit ö, da er sagt, dass es so einfacher ist in unseren Breitengraden. Nichts für ungut, aber ich habe mich im ersten Moment schon gefragt, wie sowas passieren kann ;)

In Zukunft einfach meine Presseabteilung lesen, da wären die Infos auch dringestanden :P. Mal abgesehen davon, dass ich dachte, Niels Hörnö müsste für einen NKler, der Dänemark betreut, genügend identifizierbar sein.
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Post by team fl » Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:38 am

NoPikouze wrote:In order to avoid such a mess, it's now pretty obvious that liechstentijn should be banned from RSF.

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Post by Rockstar Inc » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:49 pm

team fl wrote:In Zukunft einfach meine Presseabteilung lesen, da wären die Infos auch dringestanden :P. Mal abgesehen davon, dass ich dachte, Niels Hörnö müsste für einen NKler, der Dänemark betreut, genügend identifizierbar sein.
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Post by RS Ostfriesland » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:57 pm

FL, wir sehen bei den Fahrern nicht, wer zu welchem Team gehört. Erst wenn wir direkt nach dem Fahrer suchen, ist es für uns ersichtlich.
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Post by Robyklebt » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:33 pm

Junebug of Astra, without nation. Why? Somebody in the committee said it's not a name.

He's right, it's not. But who said it has to be a real name? Who sais it's not enough if it kind of sounds like a name that fits that country? Nobody. The committee acts like that though, but it never publicly announced this policy. Let's look at some older riders and what names were ok:

-Kotball
-Urinkugel
-Eiterolloid
-Schmalztorus
-Grillboy

I guess none of these is a real name, but all got a nation years ago. No Problem. Oh, but it's Roby and he has special rules :roll:
Check other teams, will be the same. Names that are not "real existing" names, but are in the correct language for the country, regularly got their nation.

WHEN exactly was it decided that it has to be a real existing name?
WHY wasn't it announced?
HOW are the users supposed to know?
WHO do you fucking useless arrogant assholes think you are?

4 questions, 0 answers. Thanks and fuck you.
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Post by ariostea » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:41 pm

yeah that´s quite mean. first Buhman deletes ZB´s account and then you even don´t give his riders a nation...

i have no idea about the rules... but be less strict. you know, the globalized world...people do not have only typical and traditional names in most of the countries... kick the "Fahrer EinSEinS" and that stuff - that´s good. but why shouldn´t be there more "not-typical" names - it´s just a game...

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Post by Robyklebt » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:51 pm

Of course you have no idea about the rules. After all you're just a user. They have rules they say (guess at least they have a sense of humour...) they just don't publish them. :roll:
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Post by team steinz » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:59 pm

WHO do you fucking useless arrogant assholes think you are?
bummm roby, was it u who told me to calm down? ;-)
don´t get me wrong, i got no problem with that. i like authentic emotions. But I don´t dare to agree, as i said long time before: quod licet iovi, non licet bovi ....

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Post by Robyklebt » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:09 pm

You were right, I was wrong.

Latin? Something with beef I guess...? No, I don't recommend that you call your next rider Beef Jerky.

Ah, you will be happy to know that I have a swedish friend... he changed his name, again, 2nd time. He could change his name without charge to:
-First name of his father + son
-First name of his mother + son.
AHA. Mehmetson was completely acceptable... father Mehmet, son wants to change his last name, Mehmetson.
My friend thought about Margaretason for a while he said, then thought it was too ridiculous. Had the employee at the city office check though, he said there were 2 Margaretasons in Sweden.

But you really need to take this thread of your mail alert list... you're never around except if there are posts here.
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Post by team steinz » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:38 pm

"Was dem Jupiter erlaubt ist, ist dem Rindvieh nicht erlaubt"

But you really need to take this thread of your mail alert list... you're never around except if there are posts here.
Hey, my first posting since ages, thought u´d give me a big n warm welcome back :-(
the reality seems to be different, that makes me sad indeed!

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Post by Robyklebt » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:41 pm

I'm the ape, negativity personified, that was a warm welcome for my standards!
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Post by team steinz » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:47 pm

I'm the ape, negativity personified, that was a warm welcome for my standards!
well, compared to ur previous postings u r absolutely right! i´m moved to tears!

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