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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Jul 05, 2025 6:20 pm

2025-07-05 Estanislau Almirall Sprint -1
2025-07-05 Estanislau Almirall TimeTrial -1
2025-07-05 Estanislau Almirall Downhill -1
2025-07-05 Estanislau Almirall Flat -1
2025-07-05 Ruud Koopman Sprint -1
2025-07-05 Ruud Koopman TimeTrial -1
2025-07-05 Ruud Koopman Downhill -1
2025-07-05 Ruud Koopman Flat -1
2025-07-05 Ruud Koopman Climbing -1
2025-07-05 Ceriel Bucquoy Sprint -1
2025-07-05 Ceriel Bucquoy TimeTrial -1
2025-07-05 Ceriel Bucquoy Downhill -1
2025-07-05 Ceriel Bucquoy Climbing -1
2025-07-05 Custodio Fortuny Downhill -1
2025-07-05 Custodio Fortuny Flat -1
2025-07-05 Camille Roy TimeTrial -1
2025-07-05 Camille Roy Downhill -1
2025-07-05 Tuur Onkelinx Climbing +1
2025-07-05 Pablo Gallego Climbing +1
2025-07-05 Federico Vigni Flat +1
Almirall keeps mountain!
Koopman does his job and downtrains everything
Bucquoy -4, keeps flat.
Fortuny -2, flat gone
Roy -2 fortunately TT, who cars, and downhill, nothing exceptional anyway.

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Onkelinx, motivated by his TdF selection, now 56-84
Gallego takes his 100% mountain, now 98%
And Vigni his 9x% flat, now will be 100%. Can try for that mountain later...

Not perfect, but with Uru, Lachance not downtraining ok.
Kebede and Winzenried, with 39-38% would have been nice, next time then.
Not ecstatic about this training
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
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Re: Training

Post by Radunion » Sat Jul 05, 2025 9:14 pm

2025-07-05 Shankar Agharkar Sprint -1
2025-07-05 Shankar Agharkar Downhill -1
2025-07-05 Shankar Agharkar Flat -1
2025-07-05 Sergio Fajardo TimeTrial -1
2025-07-05 Sergio Fajardo Downhill -1
2025-07-05 Sergio Fajardo Flat -1
2025-07-05 Adriaan Fokker TimeTrial -1
2025-07-05 Marek Kac Climbing +1
2025-07-05 Jonas Mockus Flat +1
2025-07-05 Jonas Mockus Climbing +1
Not happy, Marek is nice, Humberto is taking his first chance to miss, is bad. Having taken none of the low percentages for some trainings in a row means riders are going from good to average or from average to bad.

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Re: Training

Post by Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team » Sat Jul 12, 2025 8:03 am

2025-07-12 Kai Hummel TimeTrial -1
2025-07-12 Kai Hummel Downhill -1
2025-07-12 Kai Hummel Flat -1
2025-07-12 Kai Hummel Climbing -1
2025-07-12 Maik Eberhart Sprint -1
2025-07-12 Maik Eberhart Flat -1
2025-07-12 Maik Eberhart Climbing -1
2025-07-12 Ignacio Andrade Downhill -1
2025-07-12 Dustin Mulligan TimeTrial -1
2025-07-12 Dustin Mulligan Downhill -1
2025-07-12 Alexandros Poulos Downhill -1
2025-07-12 Carlos AlvaradoQuesada Climbing +1
2025-07-12 Marco Mittag Flat +1
2025-07-12 Felix Kamnitz Climbing +1
2025-07-12 Lars Feldmann Flat +1
2025-07-12 Lennard Matthes Sprint +1
2025-07-12 Lennard Matthes Flat +1
Maik loses his very first mountain skill, means he's finally getting old. Ignacio keeps mountain, which is nice. Carlos with a not expected mountain training, the youngsters train as they should.

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Re: Training

Post by Tukhtahuaev » Sat Jul 12, 2025 8:35 am

2025-07-12 Mihkel Kask Sprint -1
2025-07-12 Mihkel Kask TimeTrial -1
2025-07-12 Mihkel Kask Downhill -1
2025-07-12 Mihkel Kask Flat -1
2025-07-12 Mihkel Kask Climbing -1
2025-07-12 Taras Voloshyn Sprint -1
2025-07-12 Taras Voloshyn TimeTrial -1
2025-07-12 Olayuk Arlooktoo TimeTrial -1
2025-07-12 MinGyu Hwang Downhill -1
2025-07-12 Elkhan Baltabekov Climbing +1
2025-07-12 Zemenfes Mengisteab Flat +1
2025-07-12 Zakhar Karatay Climbing +1
2025-07-12 Ondrej Nebyla Flat +1
2025-07-12 Harrison Nembhard Flat +1
2025-07-12 Kensi Taiwia Flat +1
Downtraining looking good, but uptraining just doesn't get better.
Old classics keep their important skill, so happy with that. Other downtrainings don't really matter.
Uptraining is depressing. None of the young guys taking a double training, no one taking anything below 70%, just the bare minimum to not make it a disaster

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Re: Training

Post by team fl » Sat Jul 12, 2025 9:06 am

2025-07-12 Alex Alailefaleula Flat +1
2025-07-12 Karl Knöppel Flat +1
2025-07-12 Fürchtegott Fürst TimeTrial -1
2025-07-12 Lautaro Lucifero Flat +1
2025-07-12 Manfred Matt Climbing +1
2025-07-12 Zenobio Zalazar Flat +1
Tour de France time trial is over, so no need for the Fürst to give a shit about that skill anymore. Alex on the other hand, still giving a shit and trains flat of all skills. Also Lautaro trains flat, as well as Karl and Zenobio. Training flat rate at Team FL? Not really, as Manfred crashes the flat party with training only mountain. Good enough too.
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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Jul 12, 2025 3:19 pm

2025-07-12 Estanislau Almirall Sprint -1
2025-07-12 Estanislau Almirall TimeTrial -1
2025-07-12 Estanislau Almirall Downhill -1
2025-07-12 Estanislau Almirall Flat -1
2025-07-12 Estanislau Almirall Climbing -1
2025-07-12 Ruud Koopman Sprint -1
2025-07-12 Ruud Koopman TimeTrial -1
2025-07-12 Ruud Koopman Downhill -1
2025-07-12 Ruud Koopman Flat -1
2025-07-12 Ruud Koopman Climbing -1
2025-07-12 Ceriel Bucquoy TimeTrial -1
2025-07-12 Ceriel Bucquoy Downhill -1
2025-07-12 Ceriel Bucquoy Flat -1
2025-07-12 Ceriel Bucquoy Climbing -1
2025-07-12 Tapihana Uru Sprint -1
2025-07-12 Pahikore Taiaroa Sprint -1
2025-07-12 Pahikore Taiaroa Downhill -1
2025-07-12 Camille Roy Climbing -1
2025-07-12 Marco Lanfredini Climbing +1
2025-07-12 Tuur Onkelinx TimeTrial -1
2025-07-12 Tuur Onkelinx Climbing +1
2025-07-12 Debretsion Kebede Climbing +1
2025-07-12 Lukas Winzenried Flat +1
2025-07-12 Pablo Gallego Climbing +1
2025-07-12 Federico Vigni Flat +1
Almirall and Koopman both -5, 39+38 years old. Koopman excellent, he'll beat not only the minimum points reached in the team, also will be number 1 in cheapest Donkey-sale ever I guess. Ok, no need to guess, he would be the cheapest already.
Bucquoy -4, keeps sprint, but he's already more of a flat sprinter with some mountain now, 58-59 and 77 sprint. Yes, still hill sprinter, but one of those that gets left behind more often than not. At 37 more than ok though
Uru loses only sprint, excellent,
Taiaroa sprint and downhill
Roy mountain, now 65-84

Good oldies training, no Lachance, excellent.

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Lanfredini up, 63-85 now, very nice.
Onkelinx is found his groove back, now 57-84, won't be a 62-85, but with 2 trainings at 26 already, 60 mountain looks possible again.Losing TT doesn't matter
Kebede mountain, 61-69-78 now, good, Sanremo is waiting!
Winzenried, now 46-85 with 84.1 pavé and 63 sprint 70 TT too, which we will start covering at 25 or 26. Roubaix is waiting.
Gallego mountain, 65-79
Vigni flat, 49-79 now.

So good training by the youngsters, Kebede-Winzenried!
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.

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Re: Training

Post by Radunion » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:19 pm

2025-07-12 Shankar Agharkar Climbing -1
2025-07-12 Sergio Fajardo Sprint -1
2025-07-12 Sergio Fajardo Flat -1
2025-07-12 Sergio Fajardo Climbing -1
2025-07-12 Björn Engquist Flat -1
2025-07-12 Thorvald Thiele Downhill -1
2025-07-12 Marek Kac Downhill -1
2025-07-12 Jonas Mockus Flat +1
2025-07-12 Jonas Mockus Climbing +1
This time, no further comments. I am just crying.

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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Sun Jul 20, 2025 3:10 am

2025-07-20 Estanislau Almirall Sprint -1
2025-07-20 Estanislau Almirall TimeTrial -1
2025-07-20 Estanislau Almirall Downhill -1
2025-07-20 Estanislau Almirall Flat -1
2025-07-20 Estanislau Almirall Climbing -1
2025-07-20 Ruud Koopman Sprint -1
2025-07-20 Ruud Koopman TimeTrial -1
2025-07-20 Ruud Koopman Downhill -1
2025-07-20 Ruud Koopman Climbing -1
2025-07-20 Ceriel Bucquoy TimeTrial -1
2025-07-20 Tapihana Uru Sprint -1
2025-07-20 Tapihana Uru Downhill -1
2025-07-20 Tapihana Uru Flat -1
2025-07-20 Pahikore Taiaroa TimeTrial -1
2025-07-20 Wakara Ganambarr Downhill +1
2025-07-20 Marco Lanfredini TimeTrial -1
2025-07-20 Noah Lüthi Climbing +1
2025-07-20 Pablo Gallego Climbing +1
2025-07-20 Federico Vigni Flat +1
Almirall -5
Koopman keeps flat, -4
Bucquoy excellent, only TT lost
Uru triple, but keeps mountain, Tour would have been ok I guess.
Taiaroa losing TT is no problem either.

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Ganambarr downhill, now covering it, lost 3, gained 2 back. Why not
Lanfredini loses TT, fine.
Lüthi climbing, now 73-76, very nice
Gallego the 90% mountain
Vigni the 100% flat

Thanks to Lüthi a good training.
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.

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Re: Training

Post by Radunion » Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:04 am

2025-07-20 Shankar Agharkar Flat -1
2025-07-20 Adriaan Fokker TimeTrial -1
2025-07-20 Adriaan Fokker Downhill -1
2025-07-20 Marek Kac Climbing +1
2025-07-20 Humberto Maturana Flat +1
2025-07-20 Jonas Mockus Flat +1
Again, I'm not happy, even if it's better than the last time. Marek, of course, is nice, Jonas missing mountain at 90 % is not. Well, it is not so unlikely that it happens once at 21, so I have to live with it. He will pursue a high-risk, high-reward training strategy, so there are many important trainings left for him. I am more worried about not getting any of those many low training percentages I have had for a while. I have four riders between 13 and 21 % and a few below 10. At least somebody should train this month.

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Re: Training

Post by Tukhtahuaev » Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:09 am

2025-07-20 Mihkel Kask Sprint -1
2025-07-20 Mihkel Kask TimeTrial -1
2025-07-20 Mihkel Kask Downhill -1
2025-07-20 Mihkel Kask Flat -1
2025-07-20 Mihkel Kask Climbing -1
2025-07-20 Taras Voloshyn Sprint -1
2025-07-20 Taras Voloshyn TimeTrial -1
2025-07-20 Taras Voloshyn Downhill -1
2025-07-20 Taras Voloshyn Climbing -1
2025-07-20 Olayuk Arlooktoo Downhill -1
2025-07-20 Olayuk Arlooktoo Climbing -1
2025-07-20 Zemenfes Mengisteab Climbing +1
2025-07-20 Ondrej Nebyla Flat +1
2025-07-20 Ondrej Nebyla Climbing +1
2025-07-20 Harrison Nembhard Flat +1
2025-07-20 Kensi Taiwia Sprint +1
2025-07-20 Kensi Taiwia Flat +1
Another horrible training. No positives at all. Every single time.

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Re: Training

Post by Falcor CC » Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:13 pm

2025-07-20 Michael Redrocks Climbing +1
2025-07-20 Thibault Kerken Climbing +1
2025-07-20 Magnus Jensen Climbing +1
2025-07-20 Loïc Callard Flat +1
2025-07-20 Giacomo Sartore Flat +1
2025-07-20 Giacomo Sartore Climbing +1
Why does everyone complain about training? I love it :)

Redrocks hits the 21%, now 85MO. Jensen hits third consecutive ~70%, now 70-76-76-60-62. Sartore double is expected, Callard flat as well. Seems like Kerken remembered how to train, second consecutive hit.

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Re: Training

Post by Tukhtahuaev » Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:26 am

2025-07-27 Mihkel Kask Downhill -1
2025-07-27 Mihkel Kask Climbing -1
2025-07-27 Taras Voloshyn Sprint -1
2025-07-27 Taras Voloshyn TimeTrial -1
2025-07-27 Taras Voloshyn Flat -1
2025-07-27 Oleksandr Piskun Climbing +1
2025-07-27 Elkhan Baltabekov Climbing +1
2025-07-27 Zemenfes Mengisteab Climbing +1
2025-07-27 Zakhar Karatay Climbing +1
2025-07-27 Ondrej Nebyla Flat +1
2025-07-27 Harrison Nembhard Flat +1
2025-07-27 Kensi Taiwia Sprint +1
2025-07-27 Kensi Taiwia Flat +1
Happy with this one. Very little downtraining and uptraining about expected, which is a big improvement.
Piskun and Baltabekov both reaching 70 mountain is very nice. Important, because both are my best classic options for the fall.
Mengisteab, Karatay and Nebyla all just train their main focus and don't take the lucky 2nd training. Not ideal, especially Karatay who didn't train flat at all this month, but I can live with it. Nembhard and Taiwia as expected.

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Re: Training

Post by Robyklebt » Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:08 am

2025-07-27 Estanislau Almirall Sprint -1
2025-07-27 Estanislau Almirall TimeTrial -1
2025-07-27 Estanislau Almirall Downhill -1
2025-07-27 Estanislau Almirall Flat -1
2025-07-27 Estanislau Almirall Climbing -1
2025-07-27 Ruud Koopman Sprint -1
2025-07-27 Ruud Koopman TimeTrial -1
2025-07-27 Ceriel Bucquoy TimeTrial -1
2025-07-27 Ceriel Bucquoy Downhill -1
2025-07-27 Tapihana Uru Sprint -1
2025-07-27 Pahikore Taiaroa Sprint -1
2025-07-27 Émile Lachance Flat -1
2025-07-27 Debretsion Kebede Climbing +1
2025-07-27 Lukas Winzenried Flat +1
2025-07-27 Pablo Gallego Climbing +1
2025-07-27 Federico Vigni Flat +1
Almirall in his last training -5
Koopman -2, bad, why does he sabotage his record attempt now? -5 better, and definitely needed to lose mountain with -81%! Missed -81% twice here, and -65%, talk about bad luck...
Bucquoy double, TT and downhill, at 37 still 77 sprint, good, outstanding even
Uru loses only sprint, nice too
Taiaroa sprint
Lachance flat, ok, today might be his last race, so doesn't really matter.

So oldies very good, except Koopman, where for once I would have hoped for more downtraining... but in a classical sense of course he was incredibly good. Just that that's not what we hoped, now I get 152'447 if I sell him, which beats my record for cheapest sale, Cheyk Faye, but we want to beat that by as much as possible of course. But ok, downtrained a lot in the first 3 trainings, so still good in that sense

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Kebede mountain, 62-69 with 78 sprint now, good
Winzenried flat, 86 with 84.8 pavé now
Gallego mountain, still hoped for another flat, so little risk, but he took the mountain, ok. 67-79
Vigni flat, now 81

22-25 trained, which is good enough, especially Kebede and Winzenried important.
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.

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Re: Training

Post by Radunion » Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:30 am

2025-07-27 Shankar Agharkar TimeTrial -1
2025-07-27 Shankar Agharkar Downhill -1
2025-07-27 Shankar Agharkar Flat -1
2025-07-27 Shankar Agharkar Climbing -1
2025-07-27 Marek Kac Flat -1
2025-07-27 Marek Kac Climbing +1
2025-07-27 Jonas Mockus Flat +1
Crying again. Missing 90 % with Jonas, again, and only one flat training for Humberto the whole month. Adding a stupid mistake when I changed flat protection to downhill protection for Marek by mistake. He, of course, took the downtraining. Nothing for Loup, Myron, Adriaan, and Thorvald the whole month at 25, 26, 26, and 27. Okay, they had some downtraining. Marek would have been the positive exception if I had not done the stupid training setting. He trained climbing 3 times at 25, bringing him from slightly below average to good training. Now he just has to become the exception and continue to train.

Overall, the two young guys are now below expectations. Jonos is about one down on the final skill, but has many risky trainings before him where he could get a star. Humberto needs a lot of luck not to become a pave monster. So maybe we will be badly prepared for the pave classics in spring again. Thorvald and Adriaan went from potential superstars to potential average classics. Myron is now way below expectations. Even if he can do the job for Sophus I must rethink his role in the team after the current sprinters ritire.

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