Happy Chemnitz, cause it was a good training. Most important, Kurzig trained mountain, now 84. He will be the Vuelta leader and Poertel (dh downgrade) the important helper. Kinder with +3 nice, Vorsatz with +2 also nice. Kim likes the mountains more and more and keeps training.Training 12.8.2023:
Aditya Mirchandani Berg: -1
Aditya Mirchandani Flach: -1
Aditya Mirchandani Abfahrt: -1
Aditya Mirchandani Zeit: -1
Aditya Mirchandani Sprint: -1
Alex Poertel Zeit: -1
MinJun Kim Berg: +1
Stefan Kurzig Berg: +1
Marco Vorsatz Berg: +1
Marco Vorsatz Flach: +1
Bohumil Kundera Berg: +1
Bohumil Kundera Flach: +1
Bohumil Kundera Abfahrt: +1
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Chantaca and Hector miss.Training 12.8.2023:
Franco Scalleone Berg: -1
Franco Scalleone Flach: -1
Franco Scalleone Abfahrt: -1
Franco Scalleone Sprint: -1
Robert Klebhuber Berg: -1
Robert Klebhuber Abfahrt: -1
Robert Klebhuber Zeit: -1
Robert Klebhuber Sprint: -1
Cristobal Guaqueta Abfahrt: +1
Germán Paz Berg: +1
Germán Paz Abfahrt: -1
Denis Valderrama Flach: +1
Maximiliano Montealegre Berg: +1
Hugo Gil Flach: +1
Pedro Hurtado Flach: +1
Carlos Fuenmayor Berg: +1
Carlos Fuenmayor Flach: +1
Rafael Salvatierra Berg: +1
Rafael Salvatierra Flach: +1
Luis Arrazola Berg: +1
Luis Arrazola Flach: +1
MM mountain the best training of the day. Paz nice. 21 year olds double good. Not much to celebrate here though.
Such bad luck, such bad luck.
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- all in all ok, Prachar finally another training 73-77 now, Rolf takes second mountain with 24 68-80, keep going, Youngsters also goo except for Hamarat missing flat and Faraday a complete failureTraining 12.8.2023:
Nikola Tesla Berg: -1
Anders Celsius Sprint: -1
Georg Ohm Flach: -1
Karl Prachar Berg: +1
James Watt Abfahrt: +1
Michael Faraday Zeit: -1
Rolf Sievert Berg: +1
Rolf Sievert Zeit: -1
Ingo Dachwitz Sprint: +1
Yann LeCun Berg: +1
Yann LeCun Flach: +1
Rudolf Kálmán Berg: +1
Rudolf Kálmán Flach: +1
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Klebhuber meh. Flat not good, bad bad luck. Might retire soon now.Training 20.8.2023:
Robert Klebhuber Flach: -1
Robert Klebhuber Sprint: -1
Alfonso Chantaca Berg: +1
Alfonso Chantaca Flach: +1
Denis Valderrama Flach: +1
Maximiliano Montealegre Flach: +1
Hector Uzcategui Berg: +1
Hugo Gil Berg: +1
Hugo Gil Flach: +1
Pedro Hurtado Flach: +1
Carlos Fuenmayor Berg: +1
Carlos Fuenmayor Flach: +1
Rafael Salvatierra Berg: +1
Rafael Salvatierra Flach: +1
Luis Arrazola Berg: +1
Luis Arrazola Flach: +1
Chantaca super. He sure felt first rumours of selling coming up.
Gil and Hector both mountain today after missing last week also very good.
21 year olds keep going.
No classic up mountain, such bad luck, such bad luck.
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Carpinteiro keeps mountain, only -4Training 20.8.2023:
Amancio Carpinteiro Flach: -1
Amancio Carpinteiro Abfahrt: -1
Amancio Carpinteiro Zeit: -1
Amancio Carpinteiro Sprint: -1
Reinaldo Gamboa Berg: -1
Reinaldo Gamboa Flach: -1
Reinaldo Gamboa Abfahrt: -1
Reinaldo Gamboa Zeit: -1
Reinaldo Gamboa Sprint: -1
Raffaele Pecci Berg: -1
Raffaele Pecci Flach: -1
Raffaele Pecci Abfahrt: -1
Patrizio Rossi Abfahrt: -1
Patrizio Rossi Zeit: -1
Galarrwuy Rrurrambu Zeit: -1
Urs Steiner Flach: -1
Lucien Trutat Berg: +1
Matisse Magritte Flach: +1
Excelino Marquez Berg: +1
Riccardo Lorenzini Berg: +1
Riccardo Lorenzini Sprint: +1
Stanley Longbottom Berg: +1
Stanley Longbottom Flach: +1
Gamboa full program at 38
Pecci -3 at 37
Rossi -2, nothing important, at 36
Rrurrambu feels TT is overrated at 34
Steiner feels flat isn't neeed at 33
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Trutat! Now 76-78
Magritte now 60-83, 82.7 pavé
Marquez mountain, 83
Lorenzini a nice double 50-73 with 73 sprint
Longbottom the expected double
Outstanding with Trutat-Magritte-Marquez.
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Very decent. Kholmatov mountain good, though flat would be better. Sariboev mountain again very good, now starting to get competitive. Deklavs not training is a bit disappointing, but he was due a missed training. Rest as expectedTraining 20.8.2023:
Sherzod Kholmatov Berg: +1
Oybek Sariboev Berg: +1
Beksultan Babakhanov Berg: +1
Ilya Pashkevich Flach: +1
Shodiyor Gafurbekov Flach: +1
Axel Vermeylen Berg: +1
Axel Vermeylen Flach: +1
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very bad oneTraining 20.8.2023:
Nikola Tesla Berg: -1
Nikola Tesla Sprint: -1
Anders Celsius Berg: -1
Georg Ohm Flach: -1
Tunç Hamarat Flach: +1
Ingo Dachwitz Sprint: +1
Yann LeCun Berg: +1
Rudolf Kálmán Berg: +1
Rudolf Kálmán Flach: +1
Boaz Trakhtenbrot:
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Re: Training
Not much to tell about.Training 20.8.2023:
Linus Broaar Abfahrt: -1
Vesa Ylinen Flach: +1
Vesa Ylinen Abfahrt: +1
Oliver Zwar Flach: +1
Ukko Laaksonen Flach: +1
Martin Söderström Berg: +1
Martin Söderström Flach: +1
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Chantaca Festival over already. Hector misses a second mountain with 75% this month. Great start for the Vuelta.Training 27.8.2023:
Enzo Eamara Berg: +1
Enzo Eamara Flach: +1
Enzo Eamara Abfahrt: -1
Hugo Gil Flach: +1
Pedro Hurtado Flach: +1
Carlos Fuenmayor Berg: +1
Carlos Fuenmayor Flach: +1
Rafael Salvatierra Berg: +1
Rafael Salvatierra Flach: +1
Luis Arrazola Berg: +1
Luis Arrazola Flach: +1
MM no mountain again either. Not good for my classic captain.
Honestly, just bad. Really bad.
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Very good training. Surprise by AbderrahmaneTraining 27.8.2023:
Abderrahmane Youssoufi Flach: +1
Pakal Ixpiyacoc Berg: +1
Jemaine Clement Flach: +1
Oliver Brotherhood Abfahrt: +1
Xmucane Canek Berg: +1
Xmucane Canek Flach: +1
Chaac Cumux Berg: +1
Chaac Cumux Flach: +1
Luca Cippola Berg: +1
Luca Cippola Flach: +1
Daniel Frecherer Berg: +1
Daniel Frecherer Flach: +1
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Extremely disappointing this time. There's 0 positive to say hereTraining 27.8.2023:
Nikita Tatarinov Abfahrt: -1
Vladimir Bogaciuc Zeit: -1
Yaroslav Nesterenko Abfahrt: -1
Normunds Deklavs Flach: +1
Beksultan Babakhanov Berg: +1
Shodiyor Gafurbekov Flach: +1
Axel Vermeylen Berg: +1
Axel Vermeylen Flach: +1
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Very good one. Heikki and Jimmy both train flat. Good for cobbles.Training 27.8.2023:
Linus Broaar Flach: -1
Heikki Mikkola Flach: +1
Jimmy Wicksell Flach: +1
Oliver Zwar Flach: +1
Ukko Laaksonen Flach: +1
Martin Söderström Flach: +1
Martin Söderström Abfahrt: +1
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hm not really good, Sievert finishing at 68-80 with 24, not too good, let's see the next 2 monthsTraining 27.8.2023:
Nikola Tesla Berg: -1
Nikola Tesla Abfahrt: -1
Nikola Tesla Zeit: -1
Anders Celsius Abfahrt: -1
James Watt Zeit: -1
Rolf Sievert Zeit: -1
Tunç Hamarat Flach: +1
Ingo Dachwitz Flach: +1
Yann LeCun Berg: +1
Yann LeCun Flach: +1
Rudolf Kálmán Berg: +1
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Aditya with the last training before he retired. I'll take the mountain for Vassilyev and Kim, Kurzig is definitely the highlight! Now a legit GC captain!Aditya Mirchandani Berg: -1
Aditya Mirchandani Flach: -1
Aditya Mirchandani Abfahrt: -1
Aditya Mirchandani Zeit: -1
Aditya Mirchandani Sprint: -1
Danil Vassilyev Berg: +1
MinJun Kim Berg: +1
Stefan Kurzig Berg: +1
Marco Vorsatz Flach: +1
Bohumil Kundera Berg: +1
Bohumil Kundera Flach: +1
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Gamboa -4, keeps sprint. Good, needs 14 more points before he can retire.Training 27.8.2023:
Reinaldo Gamboa Berg: -1
Reinaldo Gamboa Flach: -1
Reinaldo Gamboa Abfahrt: -1
Reinaldo Gamboa Zeit: -1
Raffaele Pecci Flach: -1
Raffaele Pecci Abfahrt: -1
Raffaele Pecci Sprint: -1
Patrizio Rossi Berg: -1
Patrizio Rossi Flach: -1
Patrizio Rossi Abfahrt: -1
Patrizio Rossi Sprint: -1
Galarrwuy Rrurrambu Flach: -1
Galarrwuy Rrurrambu Abfahrt: -1
Galarrwuy Rrurrambu Zeit: -1
Urs Steiner Flach: -1
Excelino Marquez Berg: +1
Riccardo Lorenzini Sprint: +1
Stanley Longbottom Berg: +1
Stanley Longbottom Flach: +1
Pecci -3, doesn't matter, too bad he kept mountain, want him to be a cheap sale!
Rossi -4, his career is basically over too, at least as leader, he's not going to ride much due to his salary that will stay high thanks to the reg.
Rrurrambu: Keeps sprint, so ok, losing flat not good.
Steiner: Loses flat, as long as he keeps mountain for the moment ok.
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Marquez at 84 now, excellent, that alone makes the training good
Lorenzini and Longbottom with the 100%, so normal.
Nothing else, but only Marquez here is good enough of course.
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Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Re: Training
No classic, which is the biggest negative. Chantaca already likes flat training but one more mountain would be really nice actually. TT down a day before the TTTraining 5.9.2023:
Alfredo Ganna Berg: -1
Leano Parisi Abfahrt: -1
Germán Paz Berg: +1
Germán Paz Abfahrt: -1
Alfonso Chantaca Flach: +1
Alfonso Chantaca Zeit: -1
Maximiliano Montealegre Abfahrt: -1
Hector Uzcategui Flach: +1
Hugo Gil Flach: +1
Carlos Fuenmayor Berg: +1
Rafael Salvatierra Flach: +1
Luis Arrazola Berg: +1
Luis Arrazola Flach: +1
Erik Haugland Berg: +1
Erik Haugland Flach: +1
Hurtado missing the first flat of the month directly not ideal as well. Ganna mountain doesn't really matter. He's more or less retired already anyway.
Paveguys best guys today.
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uff, first of all, good that Volta keeps mountain and TT and doesn't downtrain in the first training with 33, Celsius mountain down, no Sievert, just 100% + trainings + Hamarat. Would call it a bad trainingTraining 5.9.2023:
Nikola Tesla Abfahrt: -1
Nikola Tesla Sprint: -1
Anders Celsius Berg: -1
Anders Celsius Sprint: -1
Georg Ohm Berg: -1
Gabriel Fahrenheit Abfahrt: -1
Tunç Hamarat Flach: +1
Yann LeCun Berg: +1
Rudolf Kálmán Flach: +1
László Babai Sprint: +1
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Can't complain too much here. Kravchenko losing sprint is not ideal, but Babakhanov double makes up for it easily. Vermeylen also double very nice. Skorko not taking mountain not so much, but overall decent when it comes to all of the middle of the road percentagesTraining 5.9.2023:
Dmytro Kravchenko Sprint: -1
Egor Stepanov Zeit: -1
Beksultan Babakhanov Berg: +1
Beksultan Babakhanov Flach: +1
Ilya Pashkevich Flach: +1
Shodiyor Gafurbekov Flach: +1
Axel Vermeylen Berg: +1
Axel Vermeylen Flach: +1
Vsevolod Skorko Flach: +1
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More young rider in the team, better training. Everybody knows it, Hugo Marxer does it. Well done.Training 5.9.2023:
Janis Jansons Zeit: -1
Janis Jansons Sprint: -1
Holger Hässig Flach: +1
Aron Abreha Sprint: +1
Tesfaye Tsegaye Flach: +1
Tesfaye Tsegaye Sprint: +1
Chérif Cissé Berg: +1
Chérif Cissé Flach: +1
I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said.
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CamargoMendoza 3 out of 6 possible flat trainings, not good for 22 y.o.Training 5.9.2023:
Theodore Smith Flach: +1
Thierry Lachenay Flach: +1
Aidis Sabaliauskas Flach: +1
JhonatanAlexis CamargoMendoza Berg: +1
Remigijus Lupeikis Berg: +1
Remigijus Lupeikis Flach: +1
Etienne Vanderstuyft Berg: +1
Etienne Vanderstuyft Flach: +1
Lupeikis and Vanderstuyft double, good
Smith and Lachenay taken flat nice
Steffens should show this month if he's a pretender or a contender...one tt training should be mandatory..86 is nice but to there's room for developement
"I'm an old-school sprinter. I can't climb a mountain but if I am in front with 200 metres to go then there's nobody who can beat me.” Mark Cavendish, at the 2007 Eneco Tour
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Unfortunately, Poertel is still lazy and downtrains again. Since I can't ride Andes, the Vuelta will be his last big tour. Kim is nice, should have started earlier with mountain training. No KurzigAlex Poertel Berg: -1
MinJun Kim Berg: +1
Marco Vorsatz Flach: +1
Bohumil Kundera Berg: +1
Bohumil Kundera Flach: +1

Re: Training
Gamboa at 39 full programTraining 5.9.2023:
Reinaldo Gamboa Berg: -1
Reinaldo Gamboa Flach: -1
Reinaldo Gamboa Abfahrt: -1
Reinaldo Gamboa Zeit: -1
Reinaldo Gamboa Sprint: -1
Raffaele Pecci Berg: -1
Raffaele Pecci Abfahrt: -1
Raffaele Pecci Sprint: -1
Patrizio Rossi Flach: -1
Patrizio Rossi Abfahrt: -1
Galarrwuy Rrurrambu Berg: -1
Galarrwuy Rrurrambu Abfahrt: -1
Riccardo Lorenzini Sprint: +1
Stanley Longbottom Flach: +1
Magnifico Garcia Berg: +1
Magnifico Garcia Flach: +1
Pecci keeps flat and TT, a hero.
Rossi 2 down, flat and downhill, keeps mountain, a hero.....
Rrurrambu keeps the sprint and flat, a hero.
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Lorenzini 100
Longbottom 100
Garcia magnificently takes the 96% mountain risk, and the 100% sure flat.
Not sure if I should take the mountain risk again, he really needs flat after all. But really needs mountain too, hm, what to do?
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
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Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Re: Training
I need to check Chantacas Training. 3 flat in the last 4 trainings while he's actually supposed to train a bit more mountain first. 84-65 is good though, can't complain.Training 12.9.2023:
Xaver Wicki Berg: -1
Leano Parisi Abfahrt: -1
Cristobal Guaqueta Berg: +1
Alfonso Chantaca Flach: +1
Denis Valderrama Abfahrt: -1
Maximiliano Montealegre Berg: +1
Maximiliano Montealegre Sprint: +1
Hector Uzcategui Flach: +1
Hugo Gil Flach: +1
Carlos Fuenmayor Berg: +1
Rafael Salvatierra Berg: +1
Rafael Salvatierra Flach: +1
Luis Arrazola Flach: +1
Erik Haugland Berg: +1
Erik Haugland Flach: +1
Other than ,very good. Fuenmayor and Hurtado could have trained fla but least the pave riders did.
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Downtrainings are very bad, Celsius losing mountain, Sievert losing both uncovered skills while refusing to mountain. Hamarat reaching 86 flat is very goodTraining 12.9.2023:
Nikola Tesla Abfahrt: -1
Nikola Tesla Zeit: -1
Anders Celsius Berg: -1
Anders Celsius Sprint: -1
Georg Ohm Flach: -1
Georg Ohm Zeit: -1
Rolf Sievert Zeit: -1
Rolf Sievert Sprint: -1
Tunç Hamarat Flach: +1
Ingo Dachwitz Sprint: +1
Yann LeCun Berg: +1
Rudolf Kálmán Flach: +1
László Babai Flach: +1
László Babai Sprint: +1
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Mostly as expected. Vermeylen is still training double, which is very good. Apart from that no positive surprises and Gafurbekov not training hurts a littleTraining 12.9.2023:
Dmytro Kravchenko Abfahrt: -1
Atanas Peshov Zeit: -1
Beksultan Babakhanov Berg: +1
Ilya Pashkevich Flach: +1
Axel Vermeylen Berg: +1
Axel Vermeylen Flach: +1
Vsevolod Skorko Berg: +1
Vsevolod Skorko Flach: +1
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