Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by luques » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:23 pm

Moved here, didn't belong to the FPK

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by Casablanca ProTeam » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:27 pm

So i can't get the nationality back ?
(and sorry for the wrong posting in fairplay)

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by team fl » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:59 pm

You're writing about proof. Feel free to post it here.
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by Casablanca ProTeam » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:52 am

luques wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:23 pm
Moved here, didn't belong to the FPK
Before posting any proofs i need to know:
Did the nation committee recognize that Karim is used as First and Familly name ?

If yes wich kind of proofs are accepted by the nation committee ? IShould i give an exemple of someone who has Chadi as Family name ?
If it yes a simple search in wikipedia about "Chadi" ( link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chadi )you will find that there is a known Algerian boxer who has Chadi as a familly name.
Or go to geneanet ( link: https://www.geneanet.org/genealogie/chadi/CHADI ) and you will find that there is actually 190 people with Chadi as family name .

It seems that there is any arabian in the nation committee, and it's acceptable that they found some issues to make the decision but as i
sayd a simple serch in wikipedia and it's done.(i don't blame anybody, everyone can make mistakes)

I still cannot understand why puting the Fist and Familly names in wrong order would affect the game or the community ..

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by team fl » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:09 pm

The reason is simple. It's the law ;). Everytime you name a rider you accept the NC Guidelines that exactly state that first and family name have to be in the right order. But you're right, there is no arabian player im the NC. So our judgement may be mistaken. So thanks for your help. We'll have a look at it.
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by Casablanca ProTeam » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:22 pm

Aha so it's my fault too because i don't read everything, sorry for that i will pay more attention next time, i appreciate that the administration is listening to the players thank you .

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by Casablanca ProTeam » Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:30 pm

So would i get the nationality back ?

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by team fl » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:30 am

So far you have only proven that Chadi is a family Name. Anyway, I did some digging myself. Karim is a valid family name indeed. Although I could not find anybody with the first name Chadi I see no reason why nobody should be able to get that first Name, while Karim seems to be totally fine.

But is Karim really a common family name in Morocco? I found Egypt, Iran, India, Lebanon, Kenia and Bangladesh. But nobody with that name from Morocco…

Anyway, it's Arabian, and although I think there are regional differences as well, I don't see a reason for the rider not to get his nationality back. So "passport" is on the way (Morocco, right?), takes the usual three days due to technical reasons.

Thanks again for the help.
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by Casablanca ProTeam » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:04 pm

team fl wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:30 am
So far you have only proven that Chadi is a family Name. Anyway, I did some digging myself. Karim is a valid family name indeed. Although I could not find anybody with the first name Chadi I see no reason why nobody should be able to get that first Name, while Karim seems to be totally fine.

But is Karim really a common family name in Morocco? I found Egypt, Iran, India, Lebanon, Kenia and Bangladesh. But nobody with that name from Morocco…

Anyway, it's Arabian, and although I think there are regional differences as well, I don't see a reason for the rider not to get his nationality back. So "passport" is on the way (Morocco, right?), takes the usual three days due to technical reasons.

Thanks again for the help.
Yes what you said is right, actually my familly name is karim that's why i puted it for my best young rider looool, thank you for all the time and interest given to solve this matter.And yes the nationality is Morocco.As far as i know Karim is more used as a family name than Chadi especially in Morocco.

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by schappy » Sun May 12, 2019 11:53 am

Mein Fahrer Gerhardt Berger wurde vom nationenkomitee abgelehnt. Es ist ein deutscher Vorname und ein deutscher Nachname. Kann ich bitte seine Nation wiederhaben?

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by chartreusecycle » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:20 pm

Lesossies could you please explain why you remove French Nationality from Eugene Viollet le Duc ?
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by chartreusecycle » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:27 pm

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8 ... let-le-Duc

please correct Eugene Viollet le Duc FRENCH nationality. we suffered enough with Notre Dame burning, give him back his flag !!!
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by chartreusecycle » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:42 pm

Could I please have a feedback from the NationsCommittee ???
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by team fl » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:31 pm

chartreusecycle wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:42 pm
Could I please have a feedback from the NationsCommittee ???
Sorry for the delay. You specfically asked for leso, so everybody else stayed put. Anyway, i will look at it in the evening if noboy else is faster.
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by chartreusecycle » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:24 pm

Thank you Team FL, waiting for the NationsCommittee feedback (whoever)
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by team fl » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:08 pm

chartreusecycle wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:24 pm
Thank you Team FL, waiting for the NationsCommittee feedback (whoever)
Passport is on the way, takes the usual three days. Thanks for the help! But the Notre-Dame reference was completely unnecessary...
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by Weirdos » Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:42 pm

Why does giving names to your riders have to be so annoying? Please just create a database already of the names you feel are appropriate...

Powers Boothe, ever heard of him? Former actor... yeah it's his birth name -> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_Boothe
Last name Strong... well, here's a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_(surname)

If you don't except these sources maybe take a minute to consult sources you trust. Or make a list of sources you accept, for transparency's sake and stuff.

So, committee member FL, since you denationalized Powers Strong twice now, could you shed a little light on how your decision process transpired? Given the information above, whick I found in a 30 second google search, would you decide otherwise today? Do you feel like considering giving the nationality back to the rider?

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by Weirdos » Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:46 pm

Ah and there is the other rider of mine who lost his nationality aswell, by the power of this committee:

Metta WorldPeace

I admit, this is one I would have had to google myself, before believing that there is a real person out there with this name: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metta_World_Peace
(again, it's Wikipedia. OMG Wikipedia!)

Maybe it's that I wrote the lastname without the space in between? Was this a mistake of mine? How could I have done it otherwise with a last name consisting of two names, does the wise committee offer a recommendation here?

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by team fl » Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:08 pm

Last Name is okay. I guess the NC member didn't know the Name. Unfortunately I was not checking for the time the name was in the list. Good old Ron Artest, Malice in the Palace... Those were the days ;)

Takes the usual 3 days, technically.
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by High Flyer » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:35 pm

My rider Madis Jacoby
Madis is an Estonian first name (you can google "Estonian Madis", gives you examples of Madis as first name)
Jaoby is an estoian surname (you can google "Estonian Jacoby", gives you examples of Jacobu as surname)

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by team fl » Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:34 pm

High Flyer wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:35 pm
My rider Madis Jacoby
Madis is an Estonian first name (you can google "Estonian Madis", gives you examples of Madis as first name)
Jaoby is an estoian surname (you can google "Estonian Jacoby", gives you examples of Jacobu as surname)

Thanks
Thanks for your help. Usual three days :).
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by RP KMT » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:25 am

tzzzzz ... first i support FL in his small unimportend hilly country and than trotteling "Popo Boboto" !!! :shock: :evil: :D

Popo
https://www.familienbande24.de/vornamen ... index.html
ok Kiswahil more spoken in tansania and mosambik... but not possible to choose in RSF

Boboto
http://www.intoafrica.de/shona-bildhaue ... nachnamen/

support for POPO !!!
1. first namen with 50% O
2. first name with 5 xO
3. more goolge for FL ;)

yes ... 3 days ... i know

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by team fl » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:05 am

RP KMT wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:25 am
tzzzzz ... first i support FL in his small unimportend hilly country and than trotteling "Popo Boboto" !!! :shock: :evil: :D

Popo
https://www.familienbande24.de/vornamen ... index.html
ok Kiswahil more spoken in tansania and mosambik... but not possible to choose in RSF

Boboto
http://www.intoafrica.de/shona-bildhaue ... nachnamen/

support for POPO !!!
1. first namen with 50% O
2. first name with 5 xO
3. more goolge for FL ;)

yes ... 3 days ... i know
Exactly, three days ;)

Thanks for the help. Am I right that the rider wants the Zimbabwean citizenship?
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by RP KMT » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:22 pm

Yes ... sitting since hours in a local policestation... POPO wants back to his family in zimbabwe.
His grandmother is on the way to Liechtensstein seaching for FL. Keep eyes open !!! :D

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by cataracs » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:30 am

accidently added a "u" to my rider Lewis Bakeru. If it dosen't sound American remove it please..Or are these things done under the table?

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