beta sprint test notes / Sammelthread

[luques]

Another thing i would like to talk about in small / escape sprint is this:

Suppose that i am the weakest one in sprint, it's normal that I will try to attack or do other things like less tempo. Let's choose option 1 the attack, if I attack at last km and it is succesful, if 2 or 3 follow me why in the sprint i am behind?

They are following ME, otherwise they couldn't counter! IMO, this could be a nice weapon for who doesn't have many chances to mix up a bit things.

The problem of sprints in small groups is that the system automatically sort from the one with best chances to the one with less chances and puts them first, second etc...

So nothing changes.

For me sorting based who you are following would produce already better results

[Buhmann]

I will check if this is easy to change.

Would be random better than sorting by strength? Or a mix of it?

[sylvainmeteo]

I will check if this is easy to change.

Would be random better than sorting by strength? Or a mix of it?

Just put a 'default speed' when we don't sprint proportional with the energy we have, because now, in sprint a 90 sprint start sprinting against a 90 who don't it's 4/5 bikes lengths advantage if you have 900/950 power, but with the same situation in escape with 200/300 energy, when a guy start sprinting against 1 who don't, he can hardly take only 1 or 1 and a half bike length against the guy who don't sprint with same skill/power... and 50m later the guy who don't sprint before overtake him very easily when he start sprinting...

It means in escape sprint 95% of the result is done at 450m to go

the default speed for MS is quite okay, I would reduce a bit again the default speed than now

[Buhmann]

I will make some balance updates for the sprint in january.

[sylvainmeteo]

I will make some balance updates for the sprint in january.

Thanks

[olmania]

I will make some balance updates for the sprint in january.

Great news !

Thank you

[luques]

Buh just one thing, please take care of / think at the possible problems that changes to small sprint groups can do to the MS.

[sylvainmeteo]

Buh just one thing, please take care of / think at the possible problems that changes to small sprint groups can do to the MS.

Would be nice to try the changes in short races before to implement this on the game

[Robyklebt]

I have to praise Buhmann for once.

At each sprint, I'm having one right now again, I'm simply amazed at how incredibly bad it actually is. Never thought it would be possible to program something that unrealistic, no, surrealistic rather. You're a real artist Buhmann!

[luques]

I will make some balance updates for the sprint in january.

Uhm some news about it?

And bigger question, does the updates involve only small sprints or also MS?

[Pokemon Club]

I will make some balance updates for the sprint in january.

Uhm some news about it?

And bigger question, does the updates involve only small sprints or also MS?

Well we are just on the middle of the month

[Buhmann]

And bigger question, does the updates involve only small sprints or also MS?

It will impact both. But it will be just a balance update, not any new feature.

[Robyklebt]

You seem very confident about this "no new feature" thing. I expect a few anyway.

[luques]

And bigger question, does the updates involve only small sprints or also MS?

It will impact both. But it will be just a balance update, not any new feature.

Ok, thanks for the info. Waiting for it

[sylvainmeteo]

Would be nice also to get a green/blue/red sprint like for the intensity of tempo

[Pokemon Club]

Would be nice also to get a green/blue/red sprint like for the intensity of tempo

Like the green/blue/red stupidity in your mind ?

Seriously what do you want ? Riders who slow at 50m of the finishand make fall the half of the peloton behind ?

[luques]

Seriously what do you want ? Riders who slow at 50m of the finishand make fall the half of the peloton behind ?

I always asked for this and no one wanted! I am also for the dirty sprint skill !

[Rockstar Inc]

you already changed something? if yes, it would have been nice if you would informed us...2nd time i see that "stealing a wheel is possible"...or is something buggy at the moment?

[Hunsrueck]

you already changed something? if yes, it would have been nice if you would informed us...2nd time i see that "stealing a wheel is possible"...or is something buggy at the moment?

changed? is at most only worse! is that even possible?

this sprint system is so buggy and crazy, terrible

[Buhmann]

Only in short races are the changes. I will write a news if it impacts all races.

[team fl]

Only in short races are the changes. I will write a news if it impacts all races.

Implement WHAT?

And btw, in the one day race 14h today, a rider (54 sprint) stole the backwheel from another rider (66 sprint) during the sprint, after he was riding next to the 66 sprint guy for around 150m. WHAT IS THAT?

[Robyklebt]

Intuition

[Rockstar Inc]

Only in short races are the changes. I will write a news if it impacts all races.

Implement WHAT?

And btw, in the one day race 14h today, a rider (54 sprint) stole the backwheel from another rider (66 sprint) during the sprint, after he was riding next to the 66 sprint guy for around 150m. WHAT IS THAT?

good question...asked the same 3 months ago

[Hunsrueck]

francais win the stage 10 with this intutionsbug. he steel the wheel from barbosa with a 58 sprinthero and elbflorenz with a 91 pushed away!

[team fl]

Intuition

Obvious. Sorry for the question. Dammit.