kill the Trottel on the transfer market

[flockmastoR]

don't know if somebody had this idea anytime but wouldn't it be good if all riders without nation become "name geben" again when they get sold? I (and many managers I know) don't want to buy a "trottel" and many of them stay on the transfer market very long although they have very good skills!

[GengisKhan]

I think the problem of Trottels has already been treated but I'm too lazy to check right now.
So my opinion is that Trottel shouldn't exist, and before a runner would be able to run, his name should be validated. So they wouldn't be Trottel anymore.
Sure people doesn't want a Trottel on its team, but I also think it's not nice when you have 10s of "Albertooooo Cuntador" or "Andii Chleck" in the races you run.

[Robyklebt]

I support this

[Servicio Médico]

if it was up to me trottel wouldnt exist at all.. i mean you are aks to confirm that you give your rider a proper name when youre naming your riders.. if you dont do that its on you.. but i would give people a 2nd chance to do so if their guy is trotteled .. and then maybe give them a random name or let the NC give em a proper name .. i just dont like seeing these trottel guys in races

[L RSV]

Yes! Give them a second chance. Like my Alaric Crissaegrim, he was trottled, but I would like to correct his name, to have a proper rider.
And he is not even a name you would consider making the race worse (from his training performance excluded )

[flockmastoR]

Yes! Give them a second chance. Like my Alaric Crissaegrim, he was trottled, but I would like to correct his name, to have a proper rider.
And he is not even a name you would consider making the race worse (from his training performance excluded )

But fine those who create trottlels in their first and second chance.

[cataracs]

Yes! Give them a second chance. Like my Alaric Crissaegrim, he was trottled, but I would like to correct his name, to have a proper rider.
And he is not even a name you would consider making the race worse (from his training performance excluded )

But fine those who create trottlels in their first and second chance.

3rd time renamed by the NC sounds like a better idea.

[Robyklebt]

I say kill em all!

[cataracs]

I say kill em all!

What we're suggesting is basically killing them. Not letting them exsit at all.

[ATB - Racing]

Team Bob and Taka here!

[flockmastoR]

As we have now the possibility of auto-generated names (and me having the possibility and plan to help game development), I want to bring this up again.

My proposal is the following:

If the final decision of a rider being a clone is executed, the Trottel rider gets an auto generated name of the nation he initially selected nation (or of a random nation), while in the NC process, this info should still exist. The question stays if the team manager (or NC committe) gets the possibility to edit the name themselves (this would be interesting for typos, wrong usage of middle names, name appendix etc., the cases we discuss here a lot).

Migration: Riders who are not in the NC process (in teams or on transfer market) but have already received a name (not being able to set it once bought) get a random nation and a auto-generated name from that nation.

issue#21

[team fl]

As we have now the possibility of auto-generated names (and me having the possibility and plan to help game development), I want to bring this up again.

My proposal is the following:

If the final decision of a rider being a clone is executed, the Trottel rider gets an auto generated name of the nation he initially selected nation (or of a random nation), while in the NC process, this info should still exist. The question stays if the team manager (or NC committe) gets the possibility to edit the name themselves (this would be interesting for typos, wrong usage of middle names, name appendix etc., the cases we discuss here a lot).

Migration: Riders who are not in the NC process (in teams or on transfer market) but have already received a name (not being able to set it once bought) get a random nation and a auto-generated name from that nation.

issue#21

I like the idea that the trottel/clone named rider gets an auto generated name for the nationality that has been chosen.

The Migration thing is not clear to me: You mean a player has already set a name and nationality for a new bought rider that is not fitting for whatever reasons, but is sold before he could have been through the NC process?

In general, I am still for trottel riders to become state- and nameless as soon as they enter the transfermarket.

And riders with 0 races lose their name and nationality when sold as well.

[flockmastoR]

As we have now the possibility of auto-generated names (and me having the possibility and plan to help game development), I want to bring this up again.

My proposal is the following:

If the final decision of a rider being a clone is executed, the Trottel rider gets an auto generated name of the nation he initially selected nation (or of a random nation), while in the NC process, this info should still exist. The question stays if the team manager (or NC committe) gets the possibility to edit the name themselves (this would be interesting for typos, wrong usage of middle names, name appendix etc., the cases we discuss here a lot).

Migration: Riders who are not in the NC process (in teams or on transfer market) but have already received a name (not being able to set it once bought) get a random nation and a auto-generated name from that nation.

issue#21

I like the idea that the trottel/clone named rider gets an auto generated name for the nationality that has been chosen.

The Migration thing is not clear to me: You mean a player has already set a name and nationality for a new bought rider that is not fitting for whatever reasons, but is sold before he could have been through the NC process?

In general, I am still for trottel riders to become state- and nameless as soon as they enter the transfermarket.

And riders with 0 races lose their name and nationality when sold as well.

With migration I mean old trottels in-game that also get a new name even if they are out of the NC process long time ago (cleanup in the database mainly, is no high priority as these old cases will be out of the game soon enough). Hope it is clearer now

[team fl]

With migration I mean old trottels in-game that also get a new name even if they are out of the NC process long time ago (cleanup in the database mainly, is no high priority as these old cases will be out of the game soon enough). Hope it is clearer now

Thanks for the clarification. Clearly a Monday problem

[Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team]

Good idea!

[Robyklebt]

Hihi, Donkey resurrected topic in 25, originally from 2010! I have a few others I might want to resurrect!

If the final decision of a rider being a clone is executed, the Trottel rider gets an auto generated name of the nation he initially selected nation

So only for clones? Not for "Sprinter Five?"
Ok. But why not for all? Or did you mean that?

If you meant that, there is one problem, and its name is: Bob Bomba! Carrera has been terrorizing the chat with that guy for ages now. And he's not wrong.
Bob Bomba, American. Bomba as family name exists, he's shown that. Bob as first name? Traditionally a short form of Robert, but I'm pretty sure in the US Bob as legal name is ok, uncontroversial, accepted. I guess similar for Willi in Germany (again, no check, but assume that naming somebody Willi official name on birth certificate, and not Wilhem or Wilfried or Willibald or whatever is ok. )Or Ueli (For our German language-challenged friends, it's not pronounced üli, but U e li) in Switzerland. But Bob, he was made stateless. So now he not only loses his nationality, but also his name? And here comes the point I really want to make: The bigger problem is the limitation of the NC committee tools. From what I understood from the Carrera-Medical discussion, the NC doesn't actually have the possibility to re-open a case. it should have Then on clones (or just trottel) yeah, kill them, somehow, but make sure not to make the net too wide, Bob Bomba, made stateless a mistake, happens, nobody expects perfection (ok, maybe from me because in fact I'm pretty much perfect unlike the rest of you of course), but renaming him with auto-rename would just make the mistake worse.
But yeah, kill, start killing, but find a system that minimizes unfair killings

[flockmastoR]

Hihi, Donkey resurrected topic in 25, originally from 2010! I have a few others I might want to resurrect!

If the final decision of a rider being a clone is executed, the Trottel rider gets an auto generated name of the nation he initially selected nation

So only for clones? Not for "Sprinter Five?"
Ok. But why not for all? Or did you mean that?

If you meant that, there is one problem, and its name is: Bob Bomba! Carrera has been terrorizing the chat with that guy for ages now. And he's not wrong.
Bob Bomba, American. Bomba as family name exists, he's shown that. Bob as first name? Traditionally a short form of Robert, but I'm pretty sure in the US Bob as legal name is ok, uncontroversial, accepted. I guess similar for Willi in Germany (again, no check, but assume that naming somebody Willi official name on birth certificate, and not Wilhem or Wilfried or Willibald or whatever is ok. )Or Ueli (For our German language-challenged friends, it's not pronounced üli, but U e li) in Switzerland. But Bob, he was made stateless. So now he not only loses his nationality, but also his name? And here comes the point I really want to make: The bigger problem is the limitation of the NC committee tools. From what I understood from the Carrera-Medical discussion, the NC doesn't actually have the possibility to re-open a case. it should have Then on clones (or just trottel) yeah, kill them, somehow, but make sure not to make the net too wide, Bob Bomba, made stateless a mistake, happens, nobody expects perfection (ok, maybe from me because in fact I'm pretty much perfect unlike the rest of you of course), but renaming him with auto-rename would just make the mistake worse.
But yeah, kill, start killing, but find a system that minimizes unfair killings

didnt mean clone it that sentence but stateless rider. I get the point but I still see no good solution. Maybe as a first step, the possibility to rename (auto or manual) a rider that is stateless ONCE for every team. I mean we should avoid that some scumbags just base their existence on annoying other people and select the same trottel name in an infinite loop. But it would also give a team that buys a rider the chance to give a new name. Giving the NC more rights, I agree. They should at least be able to reactivate a cold case on a majority vote on their own. Maybe even correct typos in names if its obvious cases and avoids stateless riders that are planned to have proper names. But the whole NC case process is still a bit too complex for me to know where to start with. So I thought about solving it outside of it

maybe we will solve this thread 20 years after I created it