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It's never too early to talk about Grand Tours. Roby will probably not join here I guess? Good, then Conti is not here hahaha!

Here's a provisional line-up for me:

Tom van Amstel 74-80-74-50-65, 35 Reg
Karim Boutannassimi 60-83-53-46-60, 37 Reg
Jamal Jemomo 61-84-55-49-56, 35 Reg
Maksim Maasikas 54-84-62-55-47, 37 Reg
Michael Murphy 53-88-51-47-48, 46 Reg
Marvin Nieuwendyk 48-74-69-46-46, 59 Reg
Vincent Soneau 49-87-75-51-48, 46 Reg
Barney Stinson 73-81-70-54-53, 54 Reg
Peter de Vlamingh 48-57-50-50-93, 40 Reg

no good time for me in september and after Giro and Tour no interersst too for 3 weeks, so Schrödinger will not wear all 3 GT leading jerseys

Shamshi Urganov: I will be here to win. Petit Singe doesn't want to ride the Vuelta? We'll see, I say I ride it, as sole leader, and win it. Fahrny, good helper, but I'm the man! He can be the woman or something. I a real Kazakh hero, we like the Vuelta. If Petit Singe comes to his senses, the Vuelta is as good as won.

Maybe that I am starting here as evening seems a problem ... my lineup will look like this:

Karl Falterhöcker 77-80 57 Sprint - The leader ... as always and maybe for the last time
Josef Schadler 65-79-79 55 Sprint - Young classic ... will be here to help falter and commit some breakaways
Nicolas Schadler 65-78-79 59 Sprint - Dito Josef
Sebastian Leiter 61-84 64 Reg - THE Worker of the team
Jiri Rüpel 63-79 - Hillhelper
Florian Bangerter 73-55-71 - Young Mountainer ... Will try to stay with falter as long as possible
Stefano Valbuente 51-88 - Chenses Flatgod
Fabian Reich 48-81 51 Reg - Just a Flathelper
Batman bin Suparman 50-75-81 - Fighting the joker

Leonardo Alighieri: I deserve a chance to show my class in a grand tour. I was criticized a lot for my training effort by the ape, but we all know results are more important. And let me start at the Vuelta, as leader of the classic fraction, and I'll repay the ape with wins.

i want to ride the vuelta, but it´s not for sure. perhaps i have to work. but we will see.

after position 3 at the giro and 2 at the tour, nipp wants the p1 at the vuelta


team

nipp, putz, schmalz, wolle and co.

Osamu Uchigasaki: I look forward to the Vuelta, we'll convince the ape to start. With Qian as a DS nothing can go wrong anyway, he is doing an excellent job in Utah for us. I think I can bring important results in Spain, no reason why I shouldn't. Alighieri is young and good, but I'm reaching my top. Right now I'm better, he'll ride for me at the Vuelta, I'm sure.

Peter, great hero! Go for 4 stage wins! Beat the parasites!

The unwanted parasites ... it is hard to control a peloton, if you are only 1 month in this game
Good Luck at all that real participate at this tour, and not only proclaim ^^

I really liked to but unluckily work will not permit me to be online on this time for 3 weeks (and even for the next months ill get a problem with racing much ...)

Who said I meant you? More like the other 90 who will not ride a meter for his sprinter..... You, who knows, but even with a new and not so strong team you could be a big help for sprints, just ride a bit earlier. If nr 1+nr 2 want and need the help.

Sooo... was at a wedding yesterday, so I couldnt be there. Possible leader jersey is gone for now, but okay. Today working for a sprint, who is in?

I will be rooting from the spectators chat!

Soooo. First stage over so far, if I ever get woken up again in my life I will try to do a little favocheck. Unfortunately I was totally finished over the last days. And yes, interesting how the sprinters will work in the future, let's see. Today classic rider territory... I think Adler and me can work, maybe some 3rd aswell.

nobody wants!? ok, i do^^

GK:

*****: Mario Schleck (Leopard Trek)
****: Yago Rosi (Adler)
***: Serge Mouton (BrauereiWolters)
**: Julius Ullrich (JOGA-LENNAO)
*: Detlef Juch (EQfriends)

Will be close between Mario and Yago for sure! as there are 20bonisecs every stage and we have a lot of hillfinishs!

Team:

*****: Leopard Trek
****:
***: Adler
**:
*:

as i am the only team with 2 climbers, i should win it


Sprint:


*****: Ville Laihiala (Team MBak)
****: Manuel Schmiedebach (Adler)
***: Tom vanAmstel (Wizards Cycling), Gunar Olafson (MorBraz)
**: the flatspirnters
*:

dont think sprinters have a real chance.


Young:


*****: Mikael Stanne (Team MBak)
****:
***:
**: Pedro Chinchilla (SK Blu-Bardhe)
*: Thomas Moore (BrauereiWolters)

Well, Stanne with an easy win


Climb:


*****: Yago Rosi (Adler)
****:
***: an attacker
**:
*:

a lot of hillfinishs but i am not really sure


Adler with good chances in nearlly every categorie and MBak with two possible jerseys.
What do the others think?

I will comment it by eob the latest.

When is eob?

What is eob?

Btw, good favocheck. But I rather think the climbers have good chances for the points classement. Someone like Noe Rosi can do it aswell.

Sooo, and about the last stages. Of course disappointing for me, most stages where I have chances and still no victory. At all mountain stages I have absolutely no chance, so it's very hard to try again with this feeling here.. also there always seems to be the hardest rival for the stage in my wheel like everytime. On the sprint Adriano, I just hope he's not in my wheel everytime else I'm gonna explode or something. Yesterday Schmiedebach... I thought he might take another wheel, he was stronger as the sprint showed and Adler will win plenty of stages in the mountains anyways... well okay, today we try again. This time more focused on the stage.

Leopard Trek wrote: Young:


*****: Mikael Stanne (Team MBak)
****:
***:
**: Pedro Chinchilla (SK Blu-Bardhe)
*: Thomas Moore (BrauereiWolters)

Pedro wird leider 25 Jahre im September.

GK:
*****: Mario Schleck (Leopard Trek)
****: Yago Rosi (Adler)
***: Serge Mouton (BrauereiWolters)
**: Detlef Juch (EQfriends)
*: Julius Ullrich (JOGA-LENNAO)

Team:
*****: Leopard Trek
****: Adler
***:
**: BrauereiWolters
*: EQfriends

Sprint:
*****: Ville Laihiala (Team MBak)
****: Manuel Schmiedebach (Adler)
***: Tom vanAmstel (Wizards Cycling)
**: Gunar Olafson (MorBraz)
*: Yoga Rosi (Adler)

Young:
*****: Mikael Stanne (Team MBak)
****:
***:
**: Thomas Moore (BrauereiWolters)
*: maybe an attacker

Climb:
*****: Yago Rosi (Adler)
****:
***:
**: an attacker like Alberto Dante (BrauereiWolters) or Pedro Chinchilla (SK Blu-Bardhe)
*:

Most stage wins:
*****: Yago Rosi (Adler)
****: Pedro Chinchilla (SK Blu-Bardhe)
***:
**:
*: a sprinter (only 4 stages left)

Sorry for the abbreviation.

Robyklebt wrote:When is eob?

today

Lizard wrote:What is eob?

end of business (day)

mittlerweile bin ich schon so weit, adler als gk-favo zu benennen!
werde es niemals schaffen seine ständigen attacken alleine abzuwähren

Kann ich nicht unterstützen. Rosi liegt gut im Rennen, aber wenn du strikt fährst und vorsichtig bist kann er nichts machen. Er kann dich nicht isolieren, und am Anstieg macht er aufgrund von Watson als Helfer maximal 30sec bei einer Bergankunft. Daher denke ich immernoch, dass du einen Trumph mehr im Ärmel hast. Du musst es eben aufrecht erhalten. Noch hat Rosi aber natürlich Chancen, und die stehen theoretisch gar nicht mal sooooo schlecht mittlerweile.

@Leo
Du hast doch 2 starke Bergfahrer, ich würde da kein großes Problem sehen. Alles was vor dem Schlussanstieg ist, ist doch nur Geplänkel

Kommt halt auch drauf an wie das heutige TT ausgeht ... wenn Rosi 5 min Rückstand haben sollte wirds auch für ihn schwer ...