Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Robyklebt » Sat May 08, 2010 7:15 pm

He, wenn meine Verbindung nicht besser wird kannst mich dann jeden 2. Tag sitten :lol:
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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by iBanesto » Sat May 08, 2010 8:14 pm

Roby + Ticos = Popcorngiro
Have fun

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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Kaju » Sat May 08, 2010 9:12 pm

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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by olmania » Sat May 08, 2010 9:44 pm

iBanesto wrote:Roby + Ticos = Popcorngiro
Have fun
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Excellent !!!
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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Robyklebt » Sun May 09, 2010 8:17 am

We will have fun.. maybe...

Sprints: Should be very doable. Satzte, 94, rosa as well until Cuneo, Gaurain, 95, then FL 93 should be enough, especially since 2 of the 3 don't really have a card to play in the GC. And they should get some help as well, Thoronto with 91-89, no reason not to help a bit, Roby with 91 will help too, Belgian with 91 don't know.

So for the next 2 days I predict: Sprints!

GC: A weak climbers group in the end. Very weak. Not on top, there it's good, 2x 89, 1x 88, that's good. But only 9 climbers with 85+... weak. Suprisingly though not even the weakest climbers field... there are even weaker ones around.

Favorites for the GC

It's open.. the TT will be less decisive, the TTT on the other hand important as usual, and longer than usual. Don't expect huge differences in the TTT, there is no really very good team. Gaurain should be the fastest though, followed by Ticos. Of the climbers, Recien should be even faster actually. Then we will have the Montalcino stage, that unfortunately could give more time gain than a nice mountain arrival (between climbers) There again Recien should be the fastest.. He should defend it on the Terminillo probably.. then see if he can gain more time before the Zoncolan. Does Branco have a chance? Normally no. Zoncolan, big time loss, Kronplatz same, Mortirolo, same, Gavia, same. Potentially. Practically the climber will have to work to put that time to Branco, less on Terminillo-ZOncolan and Kronplatz, there it will come automatically, but on Mortirolo-Gavia. With Sibierski in support Branco even has chances to win the Mortirolo stage. Will really depend a lot on the position in the GC at that point in the race, how much does Recien gain in the TTT and Montalcino, how much does he lose after, and who of the other contenders is in pole position...Lots can happen.. .we'll know more after the Terminillo stage, after the TTT and the Montalcino horror :lol:
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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Recien Nacido » Sun May 09, 2010 11:17 am

Gott ich lese zwar meinen namen da aber kann nix rauslesen. Ich beneide euch die fließend englisch reden und verstehen können und das mein ich echt ernst.

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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Recien Nacido » Sun May 09, 2010 11:20 am

Falls es um meine gk ambitionen ging sehe ich mich da diesmal wohl zu recht net in den top 5 ^^ , um 10 uhr hätte ich wohl eher ne chance gehabt aber hier zu viele gute klassiker dabei die immer wieder für kapitäne zufahren. Ich werde trotzdem versuchen einzelne etappen zu gewinnen und am ende vielleicht top 5 wäre nen traum. Habe immer hin fürs mzf auch fahrer geholt die mir da helfen ^^. Freue mich aber vor allem auf ne schöne tour und ich werde versuchen friedlicher zu sein als sonst :-)

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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Alkworld » Sun May 09, 2010 12:07 pm

Recien Nacido wrote:Gott ich lese zwar meinen namen da aber kann nix rauslesen. Ich beneide euch die fließend englisch reden und verstehen können und das mein ich echt ernst.
Einfach bei Google Translate reinkopieren und übersetzen lassen. Ist nicht perfekt, aber das bringt Dich schon deutlich näher ans Ziel.

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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Recien Nacido » Sun May 09, 2010 1:19 pm

Ja bei kleinen sätzen geht das aber bei den roby romanen ist es immer ein durcheinander^^. Aber ist och egal ich will mich eh net so dem englisch trend hier anschließen und ob ich was lesen kann oder net juckt eh keinen ^^. Will versuchen einen guten giro zu fahren und gut, da ist es zweitrangig wie gut mein englisch ist .

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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Robyklebt » Sun May 09, 2010 1:36 pm

Solange du hier mitmachst kann ich gerne auch was auf Deutsch schreiben.... kein Problem, werde sogar voll auf Deutsch umstellen wenn Belgian und der neue da, keine Ahnung wie er heisst weil RSF gerade seit Minuten lädt und sonst keinen Wank tut... grrr, nichts vorbeischauen und nichts schreiben... Gaurain versteht ja Deutsch..

Im Prinzip meine ich:

Alles offen eigentlich, x Fahrer mit Möglichkeiten. Bergfahrer nach MZF, Gaurain vor Ticos mein Tipp, aber Branco noch weiter vorne. Dann Montalcino, da gewinnt Branco auch nochmal Zeit. Und sollte es auf den Terminillo eigentlich verteidigen können. Chancen? Sollte keine haben, aber die Zeit wird Branco nicht automatisch verlieren... Terminillo, Kronplatz und Zoncolan ja, Mortirolo und Gaviaetappen nein, da müssen die Bergteams arbeiten um dir was einzuschenken, falls nötig. Aber kommt halt sehr darauf an wie das MZF und Montalcino erstmal laufen, so genau kann Klebt das nicht wirklich prognostizieren... Wenn du das alles schon am Terminillo wieder verlierst... dann sieht's schon mal schlecht aus.. Wenn du das halten kannst und am Grappa oder sonstwo nochmal was holen kannst, dann wirst eine Gefahr. Die immer noch schlagbar ist, eigentlich auch in der Situation noch keine wirkliche Chance haben solltest, aber eben, dann muss jemand mal früher Tempo machen und dich distanzieren, Reg zwar beim Helfer ok (untere Grenze aber eher) bei Branco aber wohl schon knapp... Grappa-Zoncolan, Mortirolo-Gavia-ZF in Verona, da musst dann auf die Kraft achten. Kann viel passieren, normalerweise gewinnt ein Bergfahrer und du bist chancenlos, aber auch Branco ist nicht ganz auszuschliessen.
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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Recien Nacido » Sun May 09, 2010 2:47 pm

Denke mal Belgian wohl mit den besten chancen aber ticos net abzuschreiben . auch ein roby mit seinen berg reg monstern traue ich was zu mit solchen reg monstern kann man schon sehr viel versuchen und da beide auch gut abfahrt können denke ich mal es wird wieder mal irgendwann eine attacke geben alles oder nix^^ Den Bayern power kenn ich noch net so aber auch gutes team was der zeigen wird bin ich auch gespannt. Denke mal das MZF wird schon einiges klarstellen in sachen GK. Mein persönliches ziel ist grün und es könnte zu holen sein, jedoch hab ich eins gelernt es geht manchmal chaotisch zu und mal schauen 3 wochen sind lang

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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Robyklebt » Sun May 09, 2010 6:36 pm

Karli schlägt zu!

Souverän, die schwächliche Konkurrenz dermassen dominiert dass ich wohl morgen gleich alles alleine kontrollieren muss, da hat ja keiner eine Chance... der 2. Platzierte konnte nicht mal das Hinterrad Karls halten, Prébois und co. hätten schon einen Feldstecher haben müssen um den Karli überhaupt noch zu sehen. Damit der Giro schon ein Erfolg. Negativ: Ciclamino nie getragen, jetzt gibt's dieses nicht halb so erotische rot, bah, bin leicht beleidigt und nehme sowas persönlich, Zomegnan soll sich in acht nehmen....

Short english translation:

Karl ist the best, Roby a real superstar, fantastic, great, yihaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Great Robycs, ok, done by Gilbert Pflock our new tactical genius.
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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by gaurain rx » Sun May 09, 2010 11:10 pm

Roby gewinnt... Jap. Das ist unglaublich :D Und du musst wissen dass Karl gewinnt nur wenn Prebois im Feld ist :)

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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by team fl » Mon May 10, 2010 8:46 am

Sorry I could not be there all the time. Mother's Day, you know. But today Karl won't win again! ;)
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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Robyklebt » Mon May 10, 2010 5:24 pm

My connection sucks... was getting a bit better, then a bit worse, today a nice xx minutes where I just couldn't manage to see anything, trying with 3 browsers... GRR. Nothing to do except swearing... but well, today, ok, doesn't change anything, but from now on... With this connection I'm dead.
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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by team fl » Tue May 11, 2010 8:03 am

Dürr is annoying me!But at least we have a surprising winner every day in sprint. Who won the first stage anyway? ;)

Today the boring first break... bäk.
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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Lizard » Tue May 11, 2010 5:02 pm

Disappointed. No Probygnosis for the classements so far? Anyways, my favourite´s check will come after the TTT.
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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Kaju » Tue May 11, 2010 5:34 pm

Who´s the favo for the TTT? I think Recien or Kitty...

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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Lizard » Tue May 11, 2010 5:35 pm

The Lizard, ignorant! The swiss train will get my team going :mrgreen:
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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Robyklebt » Tue May 11, 2010 8:17 pm

Prediction?

Too many unknows right now:

1: My connection.
2: Ticos motivation, he seems fairly unmotivated somehow. In the past he would be on even in stages like 1 and 2, not this time.
3: TTT
4: Montalcino.


But if you really want a prediction, ok: It's very open :lol:

Tomorrow, ok, I can try tomorrow.

My goal: Lose less than a minute to Ticos. My fear: I'm too optimistic, and I lose 2'. We'll see. But expect to see

Kitty
Recien
Gaurain
Ticos
Toxi
Roby
Belgian
Lizard


Only CG teams, without Bayern, too difficult for me his team.

Just hope I won't be the last of the teams mentioned now...
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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Robyklebt » Thu May 13, 2010 6:58 am

ENGLISH

Mmh...Wasn't that far off :D

Well ok, actually fairly far off, the

Kitty
Recien

part was easy, even Buhmann could have predicted that. Ticos beats Gaurain, Belgian beats Roby and Toxi, Roby beats Toxi. Loser of the day: Toxi.
Winner of the day.... hard. Ticos maybe, or Belgian.

But generally I would have expected bigger differences.
Gaurain
Ticos 10"
Toxi 50"
Roby 60"
Belgian 70"

or something like that, all closer. So obviously I'm happy with the result. Favorites now... Ah, still too many unknowns... Montalcino. But Sneijder, who I thought could at least fight for the podium, now seems out. He lost more than the rest. He will get some time back in Montalcino maybe, but he'll still be maybe too far back. But still all very open. I just hope Montalcino will not have too big an influence, somebody like Puzanov could actually lose everything there. Which would be bad, I hope we get to decide the winner in the mountains, TT and ok, medium mountain stages, but not on pavé. Of course the stage is not only pavé, in reality too something too will happen, but the difference is that in reality in the mountains you can win and lose minutes, at RSF not really...

DEUTSCH

Hätte etwas grössere Abstände erwartet, etwas in der Art:

Gaurain
Ticos 10"
Toxi 50"
Roby 60"
Belgian 70"

Verlierer für mich klar Toxi, Sieger wohl Ticos unter diesen Teams, oder Belgian. Klebt aber natürlich zufrieden, eben, nur 30" auf Ticos, nur 20" auf Gaurain. Prognose, nach wie vor keine, Montalcino kommt noch, was da passiert.. keine Ahnung. Aber Sneijder jetzt wohl out, dachte der könnte mindestens ums Podest kämpfen, gestern wohl doch zu viel verloren. Wird in Montalcino evtl was gewinnen, aber scheint zu weit zurück zu liegen. Sonst aber eigentlich alles sehr offen... MOntalcino könnte sehr wichtig werden, hoffe nicht zu wichtig... Puzanov z.B. könnte dort alles verlieren, wäre doof, hoffe wir können den Giro in den Bergen, ZF, mittlere Bergetappen entscheiden, nicht auf pavé.
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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Lizard » Thu May 13, 2010 3:29 pm

Roby expected Sneijder on podest? With my TTT-Team not possible. Against the strong climbers who are also stronger time trialists, this year I´m completely out. I can win a stage by 2 min and still won´t go 3rd...

Anyways, let´s look at the favourites:

General classement:

***** Sandalio Aldeia (1:28)
*** Yuri Gamov (2:14),Felipe Caramelli (1:31)
* Ethan Heinhardt (1:40), Dmitri Puzanov (2:04)

In my opinion those will be the ones to fight for the win. Aldeia in a perfect position, out of the favourites he is best placed in the classement right now and has a good helper with Bonilla. Okay, 36 Reg and not a Berry like last year, but still okay. Anyways this is where he might be attackable: Bonilla no reg, no downhill, that´s why Gamov and Caramelli with their helprs (Lex Ameise, Ivan Buonnaroti) need to attack him everyday. Especially Gamov might be strong, we only have a few kilometres of time trial left and Gamov will be strong for sure. But he needs to get back around maybe 2 minutes plus what he already lost. Heinhardt strong as an individual rider but no relevant helper for the mountains, Puzanov better as outsider because Toxicity I only have ridden few races, so I don´t expect more from him than from Gamov in the first case.

Points classement:

***** Thiago Branco
*** Manuel Clausen, Yuri Gamov
* Milan Teodosic, Lex Ameise

I really think the classic riders might get this, especially Branco who robbed 10 points already in the sprint. I hoped for Clausen, but like this situation it will be hard to catch him. Gamov will for sure be able to win stages and get many many points, so he will be my climber for this classement. Teodosic as an example for another possible winner for this classement, Ameise might also be able with this great skills. Let´s see, but I´m going for Branco here.

Climbers classement:

***** The classics, The climbers
*** Who wants it, will fight for it
* Ants and spiders won´t win here

Wizards Cycling aswell as Team Kajutschka already show they might be interested, so if no one else is going for it those might fight for it. Very open right now. And the many mountain stages might support the Gamov´s and so on...

Young riders classement:

***** Pablo Verunga
*** gesperrt b, Miriam Gössner
* Christophe Pereaud

Open between Verunga and Gössner, but I think man from Uruguay will be able to take it. Reason? Roby will do much much much selection in the mountains.
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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Robyklebt » Thu May 13, 2010 3:43 pm

Didn't expect him on the podium, but thought he had chances to fight for it. Now less already.
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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Lizard » Thu May 13, 2010 4:58 pm

First stage for me to participate 100%, luckily for Clausen to win the sprint, I am very happy. The first stage and hardest to win is now done. Upcoming week I will have a hard time, this victory costed energy. And I think even though today this didnt happen, Recien, Ticos and me will have to partly work together on the next days.
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Re: Giro 2010, Vlads Time 15h

Post by Luna » Fri May 14, 2010 4:10 pm

Lizard wrote:We are coming round Poggio tomorrow, right? *excited*
It's a different Poggio from that of Milan-Sanremo, if that's what you meant.

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