Evening again a joke. Div. 6 team with 4 80+ pavé riders and with Mavericks another specialised pavé-Team... Well, let's see what that group offers
Spring classics 2013
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Re: Spring classics 2013
GW to Villa...
Evening again a joke. Div. 6 team with 4 80+ pavé riders and with Mavericks another specialised pavé-Team... Well, let's see what that group offers
Evening again a joke. Div. 6 team with 4 80+ pavé riders and with Mavericks another specialised pavé-Team... Well, let's see what that group offers
I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said.
Re: Spring classics 2013
Allez FL!
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Re: Spring classics 2013
MIKOTOOOOOOOOOOOO !
Re: Spring classics 2013
WEEEEEEE!!!! Kari THE beast! Well, Otero would insist, but has he won PR? Hmm? Ha! 
I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said.
Re: Spring classics 2013
Same like in the morning, forever (Div 6) and Allagen (specialised pavé team)team fl wrote:GW to Villa...
Evening again a joke. Div. 6 team with 4 80+ pavé riders and with Mavericks another specialised pavé-Team... Well, let's see what that group offers
Re: Spring classics 2013
Otero wants PR or RVV as oldie race. He'll have Kari for breakfast then. But GW until thenteam fl wrote:WEEEEEEE!!!! Kari THE beast! Well, Otero would insist, but has he won PR? Hmm? Ha!
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Eating such a big guy will definetly slow him down. So Hasler would beat him not only in PR, but RVV too.
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
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Re: Spring classics 2013
Now the Ardennes... AGR, Le Wallone and LBL. Hoped that Roy will be 90-55-70 until then, but unfortunytely he's a free minded rider and decided to be a 84 climber instead. Well, seems that again Benni has to win everthing...
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Re: Spring classics 2013
YAKUMOOOOOOOOO TSUKAMOTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Stupid ape, stupid ape...
Flèche Wallonne nicely fucked up.
Start... Ape with Trapani, Momyshuly Legrand and Sekiguchi. Crazy with Palau, 87-50-79, 54 sprint. so very very similar to Trapani. 87-52-81 50 sprint. Then Momyshuly with 86, then "nothing". IN the sense of nothing for the last km. 2 clear favorites, Ape and Crazy. Trapani vs Palau. Big group goes. Crazy shows some blocking skills early. then the group goes. Ape thinks, ok, collaboration with Crazy and we get them pretty easily. 2', Peterhans goes in. Problem... fucking Palau clearly had no form at all. He was 5" behind Trapani at the end, same level as Minkovski with 83-68. And the ape should really have suspected that. After all Crazy early on said something like "connection, bah, lost 2 Pais Vasco stages because of that". So Palau form there.... possible, likely (sure now). That thought never crossed the apes mind. Had it, he could have gone a bit fast. Like that? Ape convinced Palau has form.... control try to get them, but keep the team together as long as possible. And Crazy went sleeping again 30' there.... brrr... of course ok with his form.. ape just thought he had the form, so alone.. .up to 6', change to Zibi, up to 7', then Crazy back on. Had I suspected the form I probably would have used Zibi in blue there to keep it stable at 6' or so.... And especially would have gone faster with Fariborz when he came in... he went blue, there Crazy help was there. Anyway, the group was controllable, just didn't think Palau could not have form. Stupid ape. Of course if I had known..... and Crazy hadn't worked at all, which actually would have been ok too with his form, still very very hard... needed 4 guys fit for the last "lap"... 30 km or so... just 3 very likely not enough against Radunion and other 80-70 guys... Yes, Momyshuly could follow Minkovski in the mountain, but not if he goes in a flatter section following classics. Those guys finally were under control, no problem. But the early group... horrible ape miscalculation. Palau mostly. But as well the cooperation in front, which was way too good for my taste. In the end Trapani easily "wins" in the peloton, with Momyshuly who had lost his helper before Daiken, and had been helping for the last 30 km still 2nd from the peloton, thanks to the sprint. Brrr. Bad ape race clearly. Stupid Palau with his 87 and no form.. grrr.
Flèche Wallonne nicely fucked up.
Start... Ape with Trapani, Momyshuly Legrand and Sekiguchi. Crazy with Palau, 87-50-79, 54 sprint. so very very similar to Trapani. 87-52-81 50 sprint. Then Momyshuly with 86, then "nothing". IN the sense of nothing for the last km. 2 clear favorites, Ape and Crazy. Trapani vs Palau. Big group goes. Crazy shows some blocking skills early. then the group goes. Ape thinks, ok, collaboration with Crazy and we get them pretty easily. 2', Peterhans goes in. Problem... fucking Palau clearly had no form at all. He was 5" behind Trapani at the end, same level as Minkovski with 83-68. And the ape should really have suspected that. After all Crazy early on said something like "connection, bah, lost 2 Pais Vasco stages because of that". So Palau form there.... possible, likely (sure now). That thought never crossed the apes mind. Had it, he could have gone a bit fast. Like that? Ape convinced Palau has form.... control try to get them, but keep the team together as long as possible. And Crazy went sleeping again 30' there.... brrr... of course ok with his form.. ape just thought he had the form, so alone.. .up to 6', change to Zibi, up to 7', then Crazy back on. Had I suspected the form I probably would have used Zibi in blue there to keep it stable at 6' or so.... And especially would have gone faster with Fariborz when he came in... he went blue, there Crazy help was there. Anyway, the group was controllable, just didn't think Palau could not have form. Stupid ape. Of course if I had known..... and Crazy hadn't worked at all, which actually would have been ok too with his form, still very very hard... needed 4 guys fit for the last "lap"... 30 km or so... just 3 very likely not enough against Radunion and other 80-70 guys... Yes, Momyshuly could follow Minkovski in the mountain, but not if he goes in a flatter section following classics. Those guys finally were under control, no problem. But the early group... horrible ape miscalculation. Palau mostly. But as well the cooperation in front, which was way too good for my taste. In the end Trapani easily "wins" in the peloton, with Momyshuly who had lost his helper before Daiken, and had been helping for the last 30 km still 2nd from the peloton, thanks to the sprint. Brrr. Bad ape race clearly. Stupid Palau with his 87 and no form.. grrr.
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Re: Spring classics 2013
LBL 15h for the ape: The goal=winning. The question is how and with whom... So just bring everybody the easiest solution, then wait until the manager has a brilliant idea.
1 P. Bochini
2 N. Buttu
3 N. Legrand
4 R. Momyshuly
5 N. A. de Pellevoisin
6 P. Scodreanu
7 D. Sekiguchi
8 A. Tasman
9 M. Trapani
No idea how the race will be right now, for most other classics more or less knew what I was going to do, what will happen, here...? Wait and see, or maybe I get a fantastic idea til tomorrow.
1 P. Bochini
2 N. Buttu
3 N. Legrand
4 R. Momyshuly
5 N. A. de Pellevoisin
6 P. Scodreanu
7 D. Sekiguchi
8 A. Tasman
9 M. Trapani
No idea how the race will be right now, for most other classics more or less knew what I was going to do, what will happen, here...? Wait and see, or maybe I get a fantastic idea til tomorrow.
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Re: Spring classics 2013
No LBL for me. Have to go to the airport already today. Unfortunately, this was one of the races where my team has good chances. Have fun...
Re: Spring classics 2013
Bah
Ape not happy. Good ride by Kwick, nothing to say. Ape tried with Legrand-Trapani from far... the nr 2s actually, had kept the 2 who had to stay behind fitter. Not much, ok, Legrand was the weakest, but for the rest they all had similar energy, not really big differences... maybe sending the nr 1 would have worked? Doubt it. Even with the Quick mistake and without my mistake at Colonster... and 10" plus for the stronger ones... don't think it's enough. Bah. Sekiguchi more useful for downhills... .but kind of liked having the climber help there. Plus really alone there was no chance... hoped on somebody following. Quick of course welcome, especially because there we all thought that Blocher would be the strongest at the end... which didn't make life for Melotte easy either. But if not Quick, anybody else... didn't really care who. Not too much sprint is nice, but with lots of sprint we still can work somethign out maybe...? A Trapani classic finish.. even easier than with a classic with the same sprint.. .because then Trapani would have had to promise to wait and not to sprint or something.... Anyway, tried.. .then depending on the reaction was ready to try with Sekiguchi too... Rakhat though should stay and hope for a successful 500 meter sprint behind Melotte and Blocher. But ok, then Blocher no form, Melotte keeps all together at the end, Rakhat 7th. He probably could have finished 2nd or third if he sprinted at 450 so, getting Melottes wheel (think he could have gotten it with more mountain and one less attack then Neybarov), would have been good for points and money.. .but to win after an attack every 50 meter counts... so 500 sprint was ok. And actually rather not be 2nd or 3rd...
So another 0 in the Ardennes... like every year since great Helios won the Flèche. Fucked up the Flèche myself this year.. .Doyenne IMO did alright. The attack was ok, profited from Kwicks favorite status there (otherwise with nobody following that one is over very soon). And in the end finally just not enough sprint and flat to really try more. Could have tried some backsiebs with Rakhat maybe, see where Daiken comes out, see if then somebody goes earlier... follow with Daiken and hope to then have him with Trapani and 20" or something like that. But like that was ok too. Quick controlled well.
And it was a fun monument actually. Maybe the best of the season, MSR was horrible to play, RVV ok, not too sure about that one, PR was boring as hell, this here was fun.
Next year the ape wants to win FW or LBL! Is overdue, dammit.
Ape not happy. Good ride by Kwick, nothing to say. Ape tried with Legrand-Trapani from far... the nr 2s actually, had kept the 2 who had to stay behind fitter. Not much, ok, Legrand was the weakest, but for the rest they all had similar energy, not really big differences... maybe sending the nr 1 would have worked? Doubt it. Even with the Quick mistake and without my mistake at Colonster... and 10" plus for the stronger ones... don't think it's enough. Bah. Sekiguchi more useful for downhills... .but kind of liked having the climber help there. Plus really alone there was no chance... hoped on somebody following. Quick of course welcome, especially because there we all thought that Blocher would be the strongest at the end... which didn't make life for Melotte easy either. But if not Quick, anybody else... didn't really care who. Not too much sprint is nice, but with lots of sprint we still can work somethign out maybe...? A Trapani classic finish.. even easier than with a classic with the same sprint.. .because then Trapani would have had to promise to wait and not to sprint or something.... Anyway, tried.. .then depending on the reaction was ready to try with Sekiguchi too... Rakhat though should stay and hope for a successful 500 meter sprint behind Melotte and Blocher. But ok, then Blocher no form, Melotte keeps all together at the end, Rakhat 7th. He probably could have finished 2nd or third if he sprinted at 450 so, getting Melottes wheel (think he could have gotten it with more mountain and one less attack then Neybarov), would have been good for points and money.. .but to win after an attack every 50 meter counts... so 500 sprint was ok. And actually rather not be 2nd or 3rd...
So another 0 in the Ardennes... like every year since great Helios won the Flèche. Fucked up the Flèche myself this year.. .Doyenne IMO did alright. The attack was ok, profited from Kwicks favorite status there (otherwise with nobody following that one is over very soon). And in the end finally just not enough sprint and flat to really try more. Could have tried some backsiebs with Rakhat maybe, see where Daiken comes out, see if then somebody goes earlier... follow with Daiken and hope to then have him with Trapani and 20" or something like that. But like that was ok too. Quick controlled well.
And it was a fun monument actually. Maybe the best of the season, MSR was horrible to play, RVV ok, not too sure about that one, PR was boring as hell, this here was fun.
Next year the ape wants to win FW or LBL! Is overdue, dammit.
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Re: Spring classics 2013
What I wondered most about in your race was that nobody dared to attack at the best opportunity, the last 11%. Quick was alone in tempo with 73-77 (good form and quite fit, no doubt about that). Any classic with 74+, fit and in good shape could have gotten a fair bit away, with not much in Quick's team to recover something there. But everyone seemed to wait for the others. But anyway, Quick certainly deserved that win after all.
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Yep, probably should have tried there too.. .Sekiguchi. With a climber IMO hopeless. Even if he wins 20" and is fit... he'll lose that in the flat and +3 and the soft downhill. At least Rakhat...
But the problem then is.. .who can attack? Dekkers 73, fairly fit... gaining 10" is still not possible. Let's say 5. Then with his downhill and more energy he'll close it to 2" or so before the 5... A fit Daiken maybe saves 5" to the 5, since he has downhill too... but most classics there didn't have downhill. Raczinsky maybe should have tried, yes. Or double attack maybe an option for me. Mmh, right. Didn't think of that. Could have tried.. .
But the problem then is.. .who can attack? Dekkers 73, fairly fit... gaining 10" is still not possible. Let's say 5. Then with his downhill and more energy he'll close it to 2" or so before the 5... A fit Daiken maybe saves 5" to the 5, since he has downhill too... but most classics there didn't have downhill. Raczinsky maybe should have tried, yes. Or double attack maybe an option for me. Mmh, right. Didn't think of that. Could have tried.. .
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
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Re: Spring classics 2013
Grrrr I hate this Benni and his useless sprint !!!!!
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Hahaha, I hate this senseless siebs with not riding furtherPokemon Club wrote:Grrrr I hate this Benni and his useless sprint !!!!!
Anyway, rode our first three classics this year and the results looking really good:
La Classicissima - McLeod 3rd
Amstel - Paulinho 3rd
La Doyenne - McLeod 1st
Wer Rückenwind hat, fährt einfach nur zu langsam!
Re: Spring classics 2013
I hated him too yesterday. And his sprint was useless indeed. But the main faul was hanging Roy on Preidler. Gaurain was right to tell me it was wrong, at least in 2 ways: 1st because he worked hard in the main group adn 2nd because Roy HAD to hang either on Tsakumoto or on McLeod for covering Benni. Anyway, with normal luck, Benni should have won this, but as you, Pokemon, alreday stated: "useless sprint". Grmpf. Guess that's what makes it still interesting. Not for me yesterday, but in general. Wähh...Pokemon Club wrote:Grrrr I hate this Benni and his useless sprint !!!!!
And yes, sorry Gaurin. Was so focused on Benni that I took a bad shot with Roy hanging on Preidler.
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Re: Spring classics 2013
tsss Hansa with his sieb kill a lot of possibility to move before the final
well finally Benni's sprint wasn't so useless, but not attacking by yourself with your 2 riders FL was risky
well finally Benni's sprint wasn't so useless, but not attacking by yourself with your 2 riders FL was risky
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