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Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by Ronson » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:50 pm

Hola,

SK Blu-Bardhe will start here, just brood about our final line-up ... will see 8-)

Seems to become nice tour with fl, roby, bw, Adler and rast :) Hope there will be some more inscriptions until the start.

Will post my fav check tomorrow after the prolog.

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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by team fl » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:54 am

Team FL here too. Incl. new asset Tomasz Kowalski. I just don't get why he did so bad in the Prologue... Anway, line-up is already done, so no need to bring it up here again. Hmm... Lazy me doesn't know what to write more... So this is it, for now.
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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by Ronson » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:27 am

Ok, as expected Adler got cold feet :mrgreen:

Please find the line-up of SK Blu-Bardhe below:

#1 Francisco Soares - the leader!
#2 Pieter McLeod - the important and strong helper
#3 JoséMaria Bonilla - his task should be to make race fast in hilly parts
#4 Salvador Murillo - one of the man who can the race quick in the hilly parts
#5 Antonio Zamora - the important and strong man who can the race really fast in the hilly parts, the heart of the team
#6 Paul Gamito - important helper and money guy for TT and the team-gc
#7 Mauricio Osvaldo - Ossi, he will care about Soares in the mountains
#8 Augustin Chacon - needful helper with very good skills in downhill
#9 ManuelJosé Colina - just a helper

Goal: Soares should be the man for the gc. Too bad that the profil isn' so hard or some TT km's are missing ... so Soares have to fight to get a Top2. The line-up is not so strong than the tours before ... the first time sice months with a salray below 600k

Please find below my favorite check.

General classement:
***** Benny Hill (bergwerk)
**** Francisco Soares (SK Blu-Bardhe)
***
**
* something totally unexpected

Usually Hill should have the best chances, good team, experienced manager. Too bad that PN is to easy, no really chances for SK to lead the trump of the strong team. The mountain stages are flat at the beginning and ends with a mountain finish ... really good for Hill. With one more TT of appr. 5km Soares could go for the win.

Points classement:
*** Bennsinn (Team FL)
** a sprinter
* Francisco Soares (SK Blu-Bardhe)

To tell the truth, I have no clue.

Mountain classement:
*** Most likely a rider/team he is fighting for
** Most likely a rider/team he is fighting for
* Most likely a rider/team he is fighting for

Youth classement:
*** one of the Klicks(Audooooooooo)
** *gähn*
* Anders Binder (Team WB)

Team classement:
*** Audooooooooo
** SK Blu-Barhe
* bergwerk, Team FL
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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by team fl » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:40 am

you forgot Sixpence and Portillo for the youth classement, even if Jürgen Klick seems to be the main favorite for that. And why should Audooo... win the team classement?
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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by Ronson » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:04 am

team fl wrote:you forgot Sixpence and Portillo for the youth classement, even if Jürgen Klick seems to be the main favorite for that.
Sure, but here are so many times team fl mentioned :mrgreen:

But feel free to show your own rating. Would really appreiciate this.
team fl wrote:And why should Audooo... win the team classement?
hmm, he has some riders with mountain and tt-skill. But not sure how good he rides.
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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by team fl » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:23 am

Okay, here my favorite check:

General classement:

***** Benny Hill (bergwerk)
**** Francisco Soares (SK Blu-Bardhe)
*** Franz Allerge (Team WB)
** Charles Oakley (Allrad)
* a surprise rider

Points classement:

*** Bennsinn (Team FL)
** Patrick Lindner (Allrad)
* a surprise rider

Mountain classement:

*** the one who wants it
** another rider
* a surprise rider

Youth classement:

*** Jürgen Klick(Audooooooooo)
** Eddie Sixpence (Team FL)
* Carmello Portillo (escartinos)

Team classement:

*** SK Blu-Bardhe
** Team FL
* Petit Singe
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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by bergwerk cycling » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:18 pm

team fl wrote:you forgot Sixpence and Portillo for the youth classement, even if Jürgen Klick seems to be the main favorite for that. And why should Audooo... win the team classement?
hope audioooooooooo... will be online, last tour only 1 time for a sprint ^^

team fl wrote: Youth classement:

*** Jürgen Klick(Audooooooooo)
** Eddie Sixpence (Team FL)
* Carmello Portillo (escartinos)
A little bit optimistic for Sixpence, or? Portillo have more hill and TT-Skill^^

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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by team fl » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:36 pm

bergwerk cycling wrote:
team fl wrote:you forgot Sixpence and Portillo for the youth classement, even if Jürgen Klick seems to be the main favorite for that. And why should Audooo... win the team classement?
hope audioooooooooo... will be online, last tour only 1 time for a sprint ^^

team fl wrote: Youth classement:

*** Jürgen Klick(Audooooooooo)
** Eddie Sixpence (Team FL)
* Carmello Portillo (escartinos)
A little bit optimistic for Sixpence, or? Portillo have more hill and TT-Skill^^
It's not hill, it's MOUNTAIN SKILL!!!

Look at Portillo's team...
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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by bergwerk cycling » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:38 pm

team fl wrote: General classement:

***** Benny Hill (bergwerk)
**** Francisco Soares (SK Blu-Bardhe)
and hope you're right here ...


Hill, Mountain ... all the same P:

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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by Ronson » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:41 pm

bergwerk cycling wrote:
team fl wrote: General classement:

***** Benny Hill (bergwerk)
**** Francisco Soares (SK Blu-Bardhe)
and hope you're right here ...
Think so!
bergwerk cycling wrote: Hill, Mountain ... all the same P:
No no, mountain alwasy stronger than (Benny) Hill ;)
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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by Ronson » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:16 pm

bergwerk cycling wrote:A little bit optimistic for Sixpence, or? Portillo have more hill and TT-Skill^^
No, is possible. Don't think that Portillo is able to gain time at Sixpence.
Cause Sixpence could benefit from ESKA (depends at the whol stage) at least from Ossi/ Soares for sure. But we will see . that's all still up in the air.
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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by team fl » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:52 pm

Büchel now favorite for the mountain jersey!

RSC the lucky guy with the early sprint and nobody hanging on him. Lindner second thought and thus still a major contestant for green. In the GC, nothing changed much. Maybe tomorrow, when Lindner and Rumstodt have the chance to get the yellow jersey with the stage win.
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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:33 pm

Rakhat will win, stop ignoring the great Rakhat.
And tomorrow Gao, today was just training.
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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by Ronson » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:36 am

Oh man Soares ... what a pity!

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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by team fl » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:36 am

Unsinn gets older too... But more frustrating is the fact that now both, Roy and Eddie do not train mountain anymore... If I have to ride the Giro with two climbers with a mountain skill below 85, I really have to think about it, esp. for this years profile.

Anyway, nothing lost yet for PN. But Portillo did train, so I guess even with his not fitting team, he will have good chances to be in front of Sixpence in the GC and thus in the YC. Grmpf.

And with Soares' "training" it looks even better for Hill now.
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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:23 am

Much more interesting than that boring yellow/white talk is the stage today! Will be an awesome Gao win.
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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by AlmavivaItalia » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:26 am

FL, can you also make a favocheck for 9AM? you can send me to a PN^^

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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by team fl » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:29 am

AlmavivaItalia wrote:FL, can you also make a favocheck for 9AM? you can send me to a PN^^
Why don't you just try it yourself?
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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by AlmavivaItalia » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:36 am

because i've 5% of being right, you're better than me.

Really, i can be not properly "objective"? (is this the right word?)

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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by team fl » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:42 am

AlmavivaItalia wrote:because i've 5% of being right, you're better than me.

Really, i can be not properly "objective"? (is this the right word?)
the key is to try and learn, also by mistakes :)
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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:06 pm

Yes, learning by mistakes!
Like when you buy milk, read what's written properly.
Oh, milk 198 Yen Ah, the one here is only 178 Yen, let's take this one.
Go home, coffee, put the milk in. Mmh, strange, looks different than usual. Doesn't mix. More milk. Hä.still not, and tastes weird too. Mmh, aaaaah, it says Yogurt here!
So, learning means: Read what you buy! See, I learned something already today.
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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by Alkworld » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:20 pm

team fl wrote:
AlmavivaItalia wrote:because i've 5% of being right, you're better than me.
Really, i can be not properly "objective"? (is this the right word?)
the key is to try and learn, also by mistakes :)
Just use the favo check to influence your opponents, then it's not about right or wrong ;-)
I'll give you the short version:
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***** Fournier

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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:30 pm

That's the original Mangahn way of doing it.

Like
Manghi leader: 80-80-80-75-80 with 55 reg. Helper 85-60-79-50-50 with 50 reg. Helper 2 with 78-85-79-50-50-45 reg
XXX Leader: 72-80-72-82-43 with 35 reg. Helper 60-60-60-60-60. Manager has 5 races experience.

Manghis favor check:
****** XXX Leader, with his TT he's virtually unbeatable!
* Manghi Leader, I'll fight, but it seems impossible
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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by team fl » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:18 pm

Not Gao's day again, but Lindner's with the esay tactic to hang on Rumstodt who went early as yesterday. That means Green and Yellow for Patrick.

For FL today only 30k minus with a good team result. Still don't know what to do if my climbers stay like that until the Giro...

Besides that, not much changed. Soares won 4 seconds on Hill. Rakhat rode passively in the Peloton, most probably saving his energy for the upcoming stages. And of course, Mangahn is favorite "here".
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Re: Paris - Nice 2pm

Post by AlmavivaItalia » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:45 pm

What's time do you ride Giro, dear FL, eventually?

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