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Philippines Tour 18h

Post by Hanse » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:08 pm

So lets get some activity in the Forum again.

18h Philipines Tour.

8 Teams:

Team-Mojabahs 600.253
Freudenfeuer 533.724
Team Toto 461.138
Rsc Spree 479.876
RideforMoney 480.290
opera 460.769
Sport 463.860
Hansa 415.280

Favorites:

Classement:

1. Lutz Neumann(Team-Mojabahs) 90-55-77-56-53-52-53
2. Georgi Sviridenko (Freudenfeuer) 90-60-75-48-52-65,4-57

In my opinion, clear Tour favos and Favos for mountain Stages both have strong teams but moja has the team advantage too.

Green:

1. Emilio Delfino (Sport) 66-49-55-49-80-51,7-42
2. Syamalan Rajendran (RideforMoney) 56-79-63-50-81-70,9-40

Maybe some classic with sprint like Freudenfeuer or Hansa with his 5 6X Sprinter

Favo for Flat stages RfM and Sport also Hansa ande Opera with chances.

Red:


Unclear for now. Maybe Ben Spree? Maybe not, we will have to wait who is going for red.

White:

1. Romain Rouvier (Opera) 81-61-78-56-53-65,8-62
2. Nario Bernal (Sport) 82-62-76-54-55-59-45
3. Pascal Heuer (RSC Spree) 72-56-76-72-55-54,8-51

Team classement:

Team-Mojabahs (4 rider 75+)
Freudenfeuer (2 rider 75+)

everyone else maximum 1 rider 75+


Favo for hilly stages:

Freudenfeuer 72-77 with 65 sprint and 77-83
Rideformoney 74-81 with 64 sprint (4 classic rider in total)
Hansa

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Re: Philippines Tour 18h

Post by Hanse » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:27 pm

1. Stage:

Small Escape:

Jenna Wolf (Team Toto)
Quo Vado (Team Toto)
Hein Humboldt (Rsc Spree) attackiert
Max Oberbaum (Rsc Spree) attackiert
Jonas Langeleben (Hansa)
Lucas Stucki (Hansa)

Nothing special riding together no fighting for Points. Jonas Langeleben won the Cat 4 and took red for stage 1.
After the change didnt worked well. Hansa reacting slow, Spree and Toto had different oppinions Spree dropped 1 guy later dropped his 2nd guy, Group was caught 2 kms before the finish line.

Peloton:

RfM started riding asked for help, Sport helped, later also opera helped, most parts of the race all 3 worked together.
Gap was around 3:30 max so no need for the classement teams to work and the did not.

the Sprint:

Many different Trains:

Hansa with the strongest train with 4 guys 61-63-65-68 with Freude 65 in the wheel

Opera, Sport and Rfm with their own trains.

Something happend to Sport guys, i dont really payed attantion.

Hansas train in front most time but RfM with nobody in his wheel could do a 200m sprint and won.
Hansa 2nd Freude 3rd.

Placement:

01. 00:00:00 Syamalan Rajendran (RideforMoney)
02. 00:00:00 Eric Grell (Hansa)
03. 00:00:00 Dschawid Schakirowitsch (Freudenfeuer)
04. 00:00:00 Christian Carusse (opera)
05. 00:00:00 Peter Fischer (Team-Mojabahs)
06. 00:00:00 Leander Hediger (Hansa)
07. 00:00:00 Erik Baic (Rsc Spree)
08. 00:00:00 Emilio Delfino (Sport)
09. 00:00:00 Jill Kassidy (Team Toto)
10. 00:00:00 Ben Sutter (Hansa)

Yellowjersey:

01. 00:00:00 Syamalan Rajendran (RideforMoney)
02. 00:00:04 Eric Grell (Hansa)
03. 00:00:06 Dschawid Schakirowitsch (Freudenfeuer)

Green:

01. 30 Syamalan Rajendran (RideforMoney)
02. 25 Eric Grell (Hansa)
03. 21 Dschawid Schakirowitsch (Freudenfeuer)

Red:


01. 3 Jonas Langeleben (Hansa)
02. 2 Jenna Wolf (Team Toto)
03. 1 Quo Vado (Team Toto)


White:

01. 00:00:10 Leander Hediger (Hansa)
02. 00:00:10 Erik Baic (Rsc Spree)
03. 00:00:10 Jill Kassidy (Team Toto)
Hansa

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Re: Philippines Tour 18h

Post by Hanse » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:06 pm

2nd stage:

Race:

Ben Spree going for Red taking the first 2 cat 4, then drops to peloton. hansa and toto with 4 guys 2 guys from the day before in front.
Freude startet controlling at 4 minutes sport joines group gave up was caught early.

later spree and toto tried an attack 6 guys total:

Km: 86, Steigung: 0
Tammy Flower (Team Toto) attackiert
Kristy Dallhaus (Team Toto) attackiert

Km: 85, Steigung: -1
Karla Mineiro (Team Toto) attackiert
Jenna Wolf (Team Toto) attackiert

Km: 84, Steigung: 0
Hagen Friedrich (Rsc Spree) attackiert
Ben Spree (Rsc Spree) attackiert

good riding together but spree with 72flat 62 sprint bad for the group is dropping so 5 guys left.

In the back many different teams riding. Spree and Toto complaining about hansa has no chances today.

At the 5% sieb by Georgi 90 mountain 60 flat but kinda weak everbody important stayed in front.

Group caught so MS

Sprint:

Sport forgot to set sprint Hansa Rfm and opera with their own trains nobody in RfMs wheel again.

Rfm sprint from 200m hansa taken his wheel hansa going from 50 m and loosing with less than a wheel behind. tot finihses 3rd and 4th in hansas wheel.

toto still complaining that hansa had no chance to win and shouldnt have rode.

Placement:

01. 00:00:00 Syamalan Rajendran (RideforMoney)
02. 00:00:00 Eric Grell (Hansa)
03. 00:00:00 Jill Kassidy (Team Toto)
04. 00:00:00 Rachel Winkhaus (Team Toto)
05. 00:00:00 Christian Carusse (opera)
06. 00:00:00 Leander Hediger (Hansa)
07. 00:00:00 Erik Baic (Rsc Spree)
08. 00:00:00 Raphael Ilkay (RideforMoney)
09. 00:00:00 Soslan Tigiyev (Freudenfeuer)
10. 00:00:00 Ben Sutter (Hansa)

Yellow

01. 00:00:00 Syamalan Rajendran (RideforMoney)
02. 00:00:08 Eric Grell (Hansa)
03. 00:00:16 Jill Kassidy (Team Toto)

Green


01. 60 Syamalan Rajendran (RideforMoney)
02. 50 Eric Grell (Hansa)
03. 34 Christian Carusse (opera)

Red


01. 9 Ben Spree (Rsc Spree)
02. 4 Hein Humboldt (Rsc Spree)
03. 3 Jenna Wolf (team toto)

white

01. 00:00:16 Jill Cassidy (team toto)
02. 00:00:18 Karla Mineiro (team toto)
03. 00:00:20 Leander Hediger (Hansa)

So updatet Jersey favorites:

Green: 1. Syamalan Rajendran
Red: 1. Ben Spree
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Re: Philippines Tour 18h

Post by IDF » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:46 pm

By the way , lucky sprint from Syam, hopefully it was 2 % and probably you fought a bit during the 5% to stay.. which wasn't the case for Syam.
And I wouldn't consider Syamalan as a green favourite right now, too less flat stages.

I don't see other things to write for today's stage.

Probably tomorrow's one : classic ms, no Syamalan this time normally. Difficult to be honest. Sport can do it if Freude waits for his helpers. But in other hand, you have Toto with weak helpers for Kassidy and could be important to put her far behind at stage.3 for gk contenders (and white ones)

If there is a reaction after the last hill : classic sprinters , maybe only of your team Hansa, Ilkay and Freude favourite (especially the last one considering he is gk favo too) .. or sport himself. And having a Sport's win tomorrow would be deserved considering his bad luck.
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Re: Philippines Tour 18h

Post by Hanse » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:03 am

1. No had fighting yes but didnt lose power for fighting on the 5.

2nd i dont see a chance for sport to many much stronger classic riders (Moja,rfm,freude, mountain really hard and only 15 flat kms.

I guess raphael (rfm) and dschawid are the favos. Maybe my guys survive, if freude waits for his 68-80, the last mountain but i dont really see that.
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Re: Philippines Tour 18h

Post by Hanse » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:35 pm

3rd stage:

The Race:

Spree and Toto fighting for Red. moja siebed the cat 1 mountain but did not continue to ride.

Later Spree and Toto with another attack with Freude and RfM chasing.

at the last mountain attack by toto 85 freude and moja followed then moja and freude attacked and rode together. in the back rfm rode with a bit of help of Hansa.

Placement:

01. 00:00:00 Raphael Ilkay (RideforMoney)
02. 00:00:00 Dschawid Schakirowitsch (Freudenfeuer)
03. 00:00:00 Romain Rouvier (opera)
04. 00:00:00 Bastian Gundel (Hansa)
05. 00:00:00 Sébastien Heck (RideforMoney)
06. 00:00:00 Nairo Bernal (Sport)
07. 00:00:00 Heinz Müller (Team-Mojabahs)
08. 00:00:00 Lucas Stucki (Hansa)
09. 00:00:00 Nero Salkey (RideforMoney)
10. 00:00:00 Alex Havel (Rsc Spree)

Yellow

01. 00:00:00 Raphael Ilkay (RideforMoney)
02. 00:00:00 Dschawid Schakirowitsch (Freudenfeuer)
03. 00:00:06 Romain Rouvier (opera)

Green

01. 60 Syamalan Rajendran (RideforMoney)
02. 50 Eric Grell (Hansa)
03. 41 Raphael Ilkay


Red


01. 17 Rachel Winkhaus (Team Toto)
02. 14 Alex Havel (Rsc Spree)
03. 12 Ben Spree (Rsc Spree)

White:

01. 00:00:06 Romain Rouvier (opera)
02. 00:00:10 Nairo Bernal (Sport)
03. 00:00:10 Lucas Stucki (Hansa)

Team:

01. 00:00:00 Freudenfeuer
02. 00:00:00 RideforMoney
03. 00:00:00 Hansa

Updated Favorite:

Green: Raphael Ilkay

Red: Rachel Winkhaus

Teamclassement: Freudenfeuer
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Re: Philippines Tour 18h

Post by IDF » Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:02 am

A lot of things :
Toto already out of contention for a gk podium or top 5 with Jill (he paid the price to his escape yesterday.. Dallhaus would have been there to bring back her)
Ilkay could play green like Rajendran. Difficult choice for me to be honest.
And Freude has a good guy with his 72-77-77.

Tomorrow, flat stage, i don't know.
Letting a group and resting or try to do the 4th in a row... Difficult choice again. Sport has cards to win, Opera a bit less, Hansa too with his little train.
But if everybody is afraid to sprint..
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Re: Philippines Tour 18h

Post by Hanse » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:02 pm

Stage 4:

Race:


Attacks for red killing group for red moja blocked hansa because of the danger for classement. rfm and sport controlled.

Dumb sieb by Hansa nothing really important happened for the rest of the stage.

Sprint hansas train fucked up because moja took a wheel of one of the first sprinters.

Rfm with his train then sport and opera in his wheel.

Hansa tried a sprint rfm from 100 rfm won sport 2nd hansa 3rd.

Placement:

01. 00:00:00 Syamalan Rajendran (RideforMoney)
02. 00:00:00 Emilio Delfino (Sport)
03. 00:00:00 Eric Grell (Hansa)
04. 00:00:00 Peter Fischer (Team-Mojabahs)
05. 00:00:00 Christian Carusse (opera)
06. 00:00:00 Leander Hediger (Hansa)
07. 00:00:00 Dschawid Schakirowitsch (Freudenfeuer)
08. 00:00:00 Raphael Ilkay (RideforMoney)
09. 00:00:00 Jill Kassidy (Team Toto)
10. 00:00:00 Pierre Borras (opera)

Yellow:

01. 00:00:00 Raphael Ilkay (RideforMoney)
02. 00:00:00 Dschawid Schakirowitsch (Freudenfeuer)
03. 00:00:06 Romain Rouvier (opera)

Green:


01. 90 Syamalan Rajendran (RideforMoney)
02. 71 Eric Grell (Hansa)
03. 54 Raphael Ilkay (RideforMoney)

Red:

01. 18 Rachel Winkhaus (Team Toto)
02. 14 Alex Havel (Rsc Spree)
03. 12 Ben Spree (Rsc Spree)

White:

01. 00:00:06 Romain Rouvier (opera)
02. 00:00:10 Nairo Bernal (Sport)
03. 00:00:10 Lucas Stucki (Hansa)

Team:

01. 00:00:00 Freudenfeuer
02. 00:00:00 RideforMoney
03. 00:00:00 Hansa
Hansa

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Re: Philippines Tour 18h

Post by IDF » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:11 pm

Group killed itself by too much red attacks. Easier to control behind.


By the way, Syamalan won, with a close Sport... i'll try to defend this jersey as much as i can... difficult.

Tomorrow, first gk stage. Moja and Freude big favo. Objective for me will be to don't loose too much time.
Difficult.
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Re: Philippines Tour 18h

Post by IDF » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:05 pm

Stage 5

Race classification

01. 00:00:00 Lutz Neumann (Team-Mojabahs)
02. 00:00:00 Georgi Sviridenko (Freudenfeuer)
03. 00:00:05 Alex Havel (Rsc Spree)
04. 00:00:08 Nairo Bernal (Sport)
05. 00:00:09 Romain Rouvier (opera)
06. 00:00:13 Soslan Tigiyev (Freudenfeuer)
07. 00:00:14 Raphael Ilkay (RideforMoney)
08. 00:00:14 Rachel Winkhaus (Team Toto)
09. 00:00:14 Ben Havel (Rsc Spree)
10. 00:00:16 Christiano Piteira (Sport)
11. 00:00:18 Lucas Stucki (Hansa)
12. 00:00:18 Ben Sutter (Hansa)
13. 00:00:19 Reginald Bully (opera)
14. 00:00:19 Anton Gruber (Team-Mojabahs)
15. 00:00:19 Nero Salkey (RideforMoney)


Moja did a sieb on the first cat.1 . All RFM's riders were behind, Hansa's too etc. Moja continued to push hard. My group was at 2:40 behind, only me at riding, using James and Sebastien against Moja's r army. Nero did a true job at the end just before the hill.
Spree attacked 4kms before the end... Ilkay rode the last 5 to protect. Finally both climbers attacked at last km and won a couple of secs.

Stage 6

Race classification
01. 00:00:00 Raphael Ilkay (RideforMoney)
02. 00:00:00 Rachel Winkhaus (Team Toto)
03. 00:00:00 Nero Salkey (RideforMoney)
04. 00:00:00 Soslan Tigiyev (Freudenfeuer)
05. 00:00:00 Romain Rouvier (opera)
06. 00:00:00 Georgi Sviridenko (Freudenfeuer)
07. 00:00:00 Alex Havel (Rsc Spree)
08. 00:00:00 Nairo Bernal (Sport)
09. 00:00:00 Sébastien Heck (RideforMoney)
10. 00:00:00 Reginald Bully (opera)
11. 00:00:00 Ben Havel (Rsc Spree)
12. 00:00:00 Heinz Müller (Team-Mojabahs)
13. 00:00:00 Lutz Neumann (Team-Mojabahs)
14. 00:00:06 Fred Melin (opera)
15. 00:00:11 Jill Kassidy (Team Toto)

Moja was almost all race on auto-tempo even behind the escapers (Toto and Spree + 1 Freude)
A sieb was done in the second lap of the circuit, with Freude's classic sprinter behind (he paid his efforts from stage 5), they were at 2 secs thanks to Sport's tempo but Sebastien pulled them away again at last hill.
Easy train and win for Ilkay.

GK

1. 00:00:00 Lutz Neumann (Team-Mojabahs)
2. 00:00:04 Raphael Ilkay (RideforMoney)
3. 00:00:04 Georgi Sviridenko (Freudenfeuer)

Green

1. Syamalan Rajendran 90
2. Raphael Ilkay 80
3. Eric Grell 71

Raphael in good position but a lot of climbers stages remaining...
Red
1. Rachel Winkhaus 33
2. Alex Havel 26
3. Ben Spree 20

Toto vs Spree. Nothing to add =)

White
1. Romain Rouvier 00:00:00
2. Nairo Bernal 00:00:03
3. Lucas Stucki 00:01:18

Rouvier vs Bernal will be a close battle due to their common caracteristics. The TT will not have a clearly impact (56v54, maybe 15-20 sec, which could be retake easily)

Tomorrow it's the TT, normally it's for Jill from Toto, normally Ilkay should retake his yellow jersey, Syamalan in green again etc... Let's see what will happen =)

By the way Toto is the only team who had less riders.. 2 finished the st.6 far from the 45 minutes needed.
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