The Zoo
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:44 am
Robert Walrus Sheep Klebt and Petit Singe welcome you to the zoo! What's the zoo? For the German speaking boys and girls, the answer is simple, it's the same thing as "Robys gediegener Salon" was in the old German forum. For those who weren't in that forum: Roby (supervised by the ape) posts about topics he cares, answers are allowed, yes, they are very welcome, it's not supposed to be a one way teaching thread. Even though I will always be right and those who disagree wrong, and I'll note their names and insult them in other places.
Actually was thinking if I should take the zoo to the new RSF Newspaper. But, as I said, want answers, in the news it would be a column, which is not what the zoo is about.
Some rules:
BEHAVE: Yes, it's a zoo, unlike the tea salon we had before there are no carpets, but it's a modern zoo. "Artgerechte Haltung", the animals have enough space, good food, cable TV and for the intelligent ones computers with internet access to play RSF. So behave appropriately. No feeding of the animals, they get enough food, no entering the enclosures, no swearing and insulting, some of the animals might be young. Treat the animals and the other visitors with respect.
STAY ON TOPIC: Yes, it's off topic, still, even off topic there are topics. And here R.W.S. Klebt (under the supervision of the monkey) will mostly decide what the topic and any given moment is. Ok, you have something that is in the vein of the KLebt topics, ok, post it here, no problem. But no idiotic spamming or whatever.
Ok, the first topic is:
An oldie:
ALPHABETIZE. If that's a word... What I mean is simple. When you inscribe your riders for a race, put them in alphabetical order. Of the family name. A, then B, then C. Nr 1 to the leader, if you have 2 leaders, maybe 2 to the second leader or co-leader (which by the way is not leader nr 2, but a leader at the same level as the other one, so if you have a leader nr 1, and a leader nr 2, in this order, don't call leader nr 2 co-leader) if you have one. The rest: Strictly alphabetical. Why? It's just aesthetically pleasing. And 95% of the teams in reality do it as well, But mostly it's just more beautiful than just doing it by skills or by no real system at all.
A new topic as well:
DON'T KILL COUNTRIES
So don't overfill a country with your riders. Small country, few riders, oh, good chance to get a national champion here, let's make it my new base. Boring. And sutpid. Boring, because, yes, you will win the National title most of the time. But how interesting will the race be? Very boring. And RSF is still about one thing, fun. (It really should be about praising me, but Buhmann disagrees and makes it about fun) So do your part so it is fun. Don't "buy" National championships, gain them in a race. Plus nobody will really care or think you are good if you dominate a Nation forever. Is anybody impressed that Robyklebt and the ape have won all expcept 2 chinese national championships? Doubt it. What counts is how fun the race is. And if you put in 7 riders in a country that otherwise has only 1-2 riders from one team is: You kill the possible fun in that country. Of course that counts mostly for small RSF countries. The big ones, no problem, or if there is already another big team, why not. But for small countries with no clear NC favorite... don't kill the NC. Make 2 riders. Make 3. Maybe even 4. Look at the country, then decide. One of the countries that has almost always had exciting NC is Romania. Why? Because there are always 2-4 active teams with 2-4 riders. So one will be the favorite maybe, 4 riders, but others have 2, one team 4, 2 team 2, the race can be fun. So if you like a country, want to win an NC, nothing wrong with that. But try to win the NC without killing the fun. A situation like Romania again, if somebody makes a team with 7 riders there, it would kill it. Yes, the 3 right now other active teams with 2-3 rides, would still have a chance maybe, but long term they might think... boring, that guy is just too strong, I look for another fun country, and the after 1 year you have your 7 riders against... nobody. Where is the fun in that? Nowhere.
The second point is: You decrease the chances that county has for reaching the World Championship. Same thing as mentioned above. Others will not be encouraged to create riders from that country, what for, will never have a chance in the NC anyway. So I go to another one. Happened with Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan, planned an Uzbek, got a Kazakh. Both countries are dominated by one team, but in Uzbekistan it's worse, one team with 7 riders and really nobody else, in Kazakhstan one team with 10 riders but a few others with 2-5. Both those managers, Alster and Coesitz of course are boring nation killers, and I plan to insult Coesitz a lot during the Kazakh NC, but for the moment the situation in Kazakhstan is a bit better, thanks to the few others. There an interesting NC is possible. So, people like me still can imagine to make 1-2 riders there. In Uzbekistan? Pff. Get your NC Mr Nation Killer, but don't expect any help to get your Uzbek stars into the WC. Not that Kazakhstan can count on my long term support, if the situation is unchanged in a year, one killer team, the ape will get out and look for another country to support. And I suspect many managers think like that. Want to have a chance to win the NC. If the only chance is to make 5+ riders? Pff, I go to another country. So, by overfilling "your" county with riders you hurt that country in 2 ways. 1: Boring NC. 2. You weaken the country. If you really really want to win the NC in a certain country, ok, why not. Make 4 riders in Romania. I'll stay, with my 2-3 riders I'll do everything to win myself. But with 4 riders you're finally more likely to win than me. Make 8 riders in Romania and I'll say bye bye. Have fun dominating offliners. You just killed a country, congrats. I'll look for a new country that offers interesting NCs.
Actually was thinking if I should take the zoo to the new RSF Newspaper. But, as I said, want answers, in the news it would be a column, which is not what the zoo is about.
Some rules:
BEHAVE: Yes, it's a zoo, unlike the tea salon we had before there are no carpets, but it's a modern zoo. "Artgerechte Haltung", the animals have enough space, good food, cable TV and for the intelligent ones computers with internet access to play RSF. So behave appropriately. No feeding of the animals, they get enough food, no entering the enclosures, no swearing and insulting, some of the animals might be young. Treat the animals and the other visitors with respect.
STAY ON TOPIC: Yes, it's off topic, still, even off topic there are topics. And here R.W.S. Klebt (under the supervision of the monkey) will mostly decide what the topic and any given moment is. Ok, you have something that is in the vein of the KLebt topics, ok, post it here, no problem. But no idiotic spamming or whatever.
Ok, the first topic is:
An oldie:
ALPHABETIZE. If that's a word... What I mean is simple. When you inscribe your riders for a race, put them in alphabetical order. Of the family name. A, then B, then C. Nr 1 to the leader, if you have 2 leaders, maybe 2 to the second leader or co-leader (which by the way is not leader nr 2, but a leader at the same level as the other one, so if you have a leader nr 1, and a leader nr 2, in this order, don't call leader nr 2 co-leader) if you have one. The rest: Strictly alphabetical. Why? It's just aesthetically pleasing. And 95% of the teams in reality do it as well, But mostly it's just more beautiful than just doing it by skills or by no real system at all.
A new topic as well:
DON'T KILL COUNTRIES
So don't overfill a country with your riders. Small country, few riders, oh, good chance to get a national champion here, let's make it my new base. Boring. And sutpid. Boring, because, yes, you will win the National title most of the time. But how interesting will the race be? Very boring. And RSF is still about one thing, fun. (It really should be about praising me, but Buhmann disagrees and makes it about fun) So do your part so it is fun. Don't "buy" National championships, gain them in a race. Plus nobody will really care or think you are good if you dominate a Nation forever. Is anybody impressed that Robyklebt and the ape have won all expcept 2 chinese national championships? Doubt it. What counts is how fun the race is. And if you put in 7 riders in a country that otherwise has only 1-2 riders from one team is: You kill the possible fun in that country. Of course that counts mostly for small RSF countries. The big ones, no problem, or if there is already another big team, why not. But for small countries with no clear NC favorite... don't kill the NC. Make 2 riders. Make 3. Maybe even 4. Look at the country, then decide. One of the countries that has almost always had exciting NC is Romania. Why? Because there are always 2-4 active teams with 2-4 riders. So one will be the favorite maybe, 4 riders, but others have 2, one team 4, 2 team 2, the race can be fun. So if you like a country, want to win an NC, nothing wrong with that. But try to win the NC without killing the fun. A situation like Romania again, if somebody makes a team with 7 riders there, it would kill it. Yes, the 3 right now other active teams with 2-3 rides, would still have a chance maybe, but long term they might think... boring, that guy is just too strong, I look for another fun country, and the after 1 year you have your 7 riders against... nobody. Where is the fun in that? Nowhere.
The second point is: You decrease the chances that county has for reaching the World Championship. Same thing as mentioned above. Others will not be encouraged to create riders from that country, what for, will never have a chance in the NC anyway. So I go to another one. Happened with Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan, planned an Uzbek, got a Kazakh. Both countries are dominated by one team, but in Uzbekistan it's worse, one team with 7 riders and really nobody else, in Kazakhstan one team with 10 riders but a few others with 2-5. Both those managers, Alster and Coesitz of course are boring nation killers, and I plan to insult Coesitz a lot during the Kazakh NC, but for the moment the situation in Kazakhstan is a bit better, thanks to the few others. There an interesting NC is possible. So, people like me still can imagine to make 1-2 riders there. In Uzbekistan? Pff. Get your NC Mr Nation Killer, but don't expect any help to get your Uzbek stars into the WC. Not that Kazakhstan can count on my long term support, if the situation is unchanged in a year, one killer team, the ape will get out and look for another country to support. And I suspect many managers think like that. Want to have a chance to win the NC. If the only chance is to make 5+ riders? Pff, I go to another country. So, by overfilling "your" county with riders you hurt that country in 2 ways. 1: Boring NC. 2. You weaken the country. If you really really want to win the NC in a certain country, ok, why not. Make 4 riders in Romania. I'll stay, with my 2-3 riders I'll do everything to win myself. But with 4 riders you're finally more likely to win than me. Make 8 riders in Romania and I'll say bye bye. Have fun dominating offliners. You just killed a country, congrats. I'll look for a new country that offers interesting NCs.