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Re: Big Donkey

Post by Hanse » Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:40 pm

Robyklebt wrote:
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Re: Big Donkey

Post by el Galactico » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:42 pm

I always enjoy your team reports. Keep it going :)
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Re: Big Donkey

Post by Laurens88 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:58 pm

I enjoy reading them too, glad to see I am not the only one who dislikes Duncan. But don't worry, I will probably sell him soon. :D

And thanks for bringing up Fourmies again: my most memorable loss of the year... :( But you earned it, your endless attacking was the winning strategy. It's always cool if tactical moves are decisive rather than rider skills.

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Re: Big Donkey

Post by team fl » Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:58 am

14 years...damn we're really freaks. Anyway, why am I not mentioned as worthy opponent?!!! (please don't answer if I could not like the answer. But which would then show.... grmpf.)
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Re: Big Donkey

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:31 am


Not much going on in February. Larios for Valencia and Antinori for Oman. Wiedmer, Armas and others for Het Nieuwsblad. Larios in Valencia got 2nd, in a tiny field. Main reason to start was to avoid the bad times for me and expected low participation for the one day races, didn't really turn out well. Oman then looked like a 3 team race, so Antinori didn't go there, not another mini-group.
Main goal of the season obviously Het Nieuwsblad, planned leader Wiedmer, who didn't ride much else... Armas 100 form too, more sprint, we changed to him during the race, he got 2nd in a snoozefest. 3 wins + 2 NCs, which don't really count. Bogarin-Belhassen-Armas in fantasy races. Most points for Armas in February, followed by Larios and Bogarin. In the end Bogarin got the rider of the season award though. He won his national championship by being online. (Seems they count a bit after all), and second twice he had to be part of the train for Matsukaze, despite having better form or better chances (they had really similar form which wasn't planned like that I thought, but obviously was, otherwise would have been different...). So Ticio gets his first big award, rider of the season!

Short interview:

-Ticio, rider of the season in February, congratulations
-Thanks, a bit surprising, expected to win in March, not February already.
-Good, we want to talk about March mostly anyway! Milano Sanremo your goal, correct.
-Correct. I'll be the sole leader. On paper at least, the Donkey is still old style, he writes down stuff on paper. Let's hope he manages to transfer it to the internet.
- So your season is centered around MSR, what will you ride in preparation?
- Nothing special, a few 1 day races, then the team will go to Paris-Nice without me. We would have actually preferred Tirreno, but the starting times don't fit, so Paris-Nice it is. I'll do an altitude camp during that time, then come back down. Handzame and then MSR.
- Do you know who'll be supporting you at MRS?
- Mostly the team should be clear. Wiedmer, Nägele, Krankl for after the Cipressa. Armas the same, but blocking in Poggio. Then not sure. There's some talk of bringing Matsukaze, but the idea seems to be to have him there as a helper. We'll see.
- Ok, short question about February. 2 wins, the national championship! How important is that?
- Not that important really. I would have preferred to win the one day race in Paraguay, Asuncion-General Oviedo, but wasn't my best day.
- But being by far the most popular cyclist in Paraguay, the title counts something no?
- Well, fortunately it has all calmed down a bit. When I passed pro we used to have people from Paraguay waiting on the street in front of the headquarters, especially after announcing the training results... But ok, winning at home was nice, but not really worth much.
- Anyway, good luck for MSR!

February, place 11 in D1 with 5900 points.

Training: Good, Larios, Belhassen, Quttiboyev and HIkmet, very nice. With Lafargue coming up especially the pavé all of the sudden looks much better, with the 2 older guys restarting to training.

Retirement: Son YoungGwon. 01.08.2018-28.02.2020 56-70-77-65-59 with 40 reg. Best skills: 75-76-78-66-60 (thought 61, but seems 60). Allround classic, mountain-TT-sprint there. 8381 points in 246 races, 6 wins, Laigueglia 2019 the most important. 3rd place Amstel. With his 75-76 and the sprint he was always a good option, but never managed to get big wins. Too many similar guys with more sprints around, so he was more a placement rider. And riding here, of course his primary job really was helping in GTs, all else is bonus. Biggest regret of his career though in not winning Guadeloupe, he didn't get to ride many tours for himself, even there he wasn't planned as leader, got yellow, but lost it on the last day. He know works for an advertisment company in Seoul.

No new riders, too many riders in the team, we bought 2 riders twice in the last year, Larios+Hikmet 27, Krankl Brotcorne 25 now. And since Snorri Kolbeinsson wants to ride till early April at the very least.. We could have gotten a youth rider for March, retire Snorri early April and buy one immediately, but would still have the problem later. Easier to just skip March, we didn't know what to buy anyway.

Program and goal: PN, MSR, then no Catalunya but classics. Gent, E3. So that's the races we want to win, MSR, PN, then GW+Gent. But we'll take others too
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Re: Big Donkey

Post by Robyklebt » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:02 am


Bogarin wins Milano-Sanremo. That's the most important news, which makes March a great season, and already makes the whole year a success. The main goal of the season, with not only Bogarin at 100 form, but also Armas, Belhassen, Nägele and Krankl. MSR won, I'll gladly be cannon fodder for the rest of the year. Ok, maybe not, we had enough cannon fodder performances after MSR already. But even if we don't win anything else over category 4 anymore in 2020, doesn't matter, we have one monument, and the one I like most at c4f.

But let's look at the whole season.
Place 14 in D1 with 7535 points, 4892 of these in March, which gives us place 15 at the start of the season.
4 wins. Bogarin at MSR, Antinori a Paris Nice stage, Hikmet Loire Atlantique and Brotcorne Rhodes. Good enough for me.

The big races:
Strade Bianche: 12th place for Armas, Wiedmer was planned as leader, but changed to Armas pretty fast if we remember correctly. With his low form no surprise he couldn't follow in the last km, but the escape, that the Donkey missed, respectively dumbly anticipated in a gambling move came through.
Paris Nice: Antinori 4th in GC 2'03" behind the winner, Aeschbacher by Hansa, thanks to an escape. 44" behind Arvidsson, Lennao, the best of the rest, the strongest of the favorites. Antinori was always an outsider, TT and only one mountain arrival this year, the last stage sort of changed to compared to other years. In the end Antinori won his stage easily, while in GC he tried a bit here and there, but never had a chance. The great Donkey sprint train neither, despite working for it, otherwise the constantly whining and winning RfM wouldn't have gotten a single sprint... Lots of offlining with few teams, so not a great tour really.
MSR: Bogarin! Not the expected race, our star turned out to be the most at risk of the hill sprinters, lowest mountain skill.. But no serious sieb at the Cipressa, so the big chase to come back didn't happen. Riding fully for the sprint after that, ensuring the sprint with CC and Gipfel. Without CC and my help in the Poggio there wouldn't have been a sprint, Gipfel's flat was necessary too. Sprint then, Bogarin went where he had to. 2 of the co-favorites, Hediger and Casademont completely missed their sprint, bad positioning, Pokemon not completely surprising tried a sprint for Pincemail, so it was mostly 3 guys left in the race for the win. Jefferson, some Liquigas guy and Bogarin. Sprint mistake first by Jefferson, not taking the Liquigas wheel, then Liquigas, not going with his sprinter early enough so in the end Bogarin, who took the risk of going at 100, to let Jefferson a chance. So if you want he did a mistake too, but his class paid off, he won. Only regret is the split field, would really have liked to have a unified big group. Including Aix, Falkenbier, Tukh, Feiting.
Harelbeke: Belhassen 16. Armas and Wiedmer in the first peloton too. An activist siebing and attacking Donkey, that completely disappears when it counts. Make the race hard, hope to be in the right escape, didn't work, race was hard, Donkey missed the escape. Or started half of it, but dropped later, and missing the second half of it. INteresting race, the Donkey just was outclassed, no big regrets really.
Gent-Wevelgem: 35. Brotcorne. Decided to go for Bogarin with Brotcorne at 100 form as free rider. As feared Bogarin turned out to be too weak to follow on the decisive Kemmelberg. And Brotcorne proved to be strong enough to bring home a decent result, just that his manager was clearly out of his league once again. Missed the obvious attack, decided not to follow the obvious attacker a few km before. And then didn't even tell Armand to sprint. Big group in front wins, despite the sprinters not doing much wrong really. Interesting race after the second Kemmelberg, no Donkeys to be seen on TV though. No regrets here too, went for Bogarin, he was my best chance for a win, everybody else really lacks the sprint, only other half way realistic chance was Belhassen with 57, but then it's the follow gamble again, and the manager proved at Harelbeke how bad he is at that. And here with Brotcorne again.

So everything really was a failure, except the race that counts most. Milano-Sanremo.
Rider of the season
Clearly Ticio Bogarin, 1 win, Milano-Sanremo, 1495 points in March.

Interview with Ticio:

- Ticio, as announced, as hoped, you won Milano-Sanremo! Congratulations.
- Thank you.
- Let's recap your career a bit. You joined Big Donkey in early August 19 with 51-68-73-51-61. But Big Donkey at first wanted to train you as a classic, correct?
- Yes. When I joined the team, which was a big honor for me to be honest, first Paraguayan to join this legendary team, Big Donkey told me to train my flat and mountain skill mostly. You could see he wasn't really too excited about me joining the team, he had hoped to hire a climber. Couldn't find one that wanted to join, so I was hired in early August. So even if I was just a stop gap really, I was very grateful to get that chance, was already afraid of not getting any pro contract, when Big Donkey asked me to sign with him.
- But why not train your sprint?
- I'm not sure, can't read minds. But I had to train sprint, but just one unit per session. Mostly flat and mountain. My guess is that Big Donkey didn't really think too much about it. Plus he had 2 sprinters already, well 3 if we include Sofiga, who was riding his last season then. But with Matsukaze and Kunonga there were already 2 very good sprinters, a third one didn't seem necessary.
- And then?
- My bad training saved me. As instructed, I trained mountain and flat, and a little bit sprint. But when we did the tests roughtly a week later the result was. I got better in mountain and sprint, but not flat, even if according to the training plan, which I followed exactly, there was an excellent chance that my flat ability would improve with that training. So when Big Donkey did the review with me he noticed that. And then got excited, I was afraid he would get angry, and told me to focus mostly on mountain and sprint. That after all he wanted me to become a sprinter, Matsukaze and Kunonga in one as he put it, mountain and flat in addition to the sprint. That's what makes Big Donkey such a great team, that's the difference to other teams. Big Donkey himself reviews the training and orders changes. The rest is history. I trained as instructed and won MSR.
- Well, in other teams they might have realized your potential before the fist training and given you the right training regimen from the start....
- It's hot in August, Big Donkey says it's even too hot to masturbate, so I don't think anybody else would have done better with me.
- Okay, so tell us about Milano Sanremo then.
- There's not really much to tell. We all saw it. The team was there for me 100%, Big Donkey's race plan was spot-on. My teammates knew what to do to deliver me to the sprint, I knew what to do in the sprint. The question was if we would manage to do our jobs, transfer the plan from paper to the road, I think we can say that we did.
- So what now? After winning the race that defined your career from the moment you changed your training, what else is there?
- Lots, first of all Gent-Wevelgem, but as we saw I didn't have the legs anymore there. I couldn't follow on the Kemmelberg, my teammates couldn't bring me back. We had put everything on Milano-Sanremo, we weren't in the same shape physically for Gent anymore. And mentally neither, after the big win we certainly did have a fall in tension. At least I did, I know that shouldn't happen, but it did. I think I'm getting back though, I'll try to deliver again in April.
- Yes, but what are your goals?
- April... we'll see. I gues I'll be at the start in Schelde, Brabant, Amstel, Fleche and Liege. Fleche and Liège clearly as a helper, we'll see if I can do something in the other 3 races. But April isn't really a big month for me, my next big goal is the Giro. Win a Giro stage is my next big goal.
- And after that the Tour I suppose?
- Correct, Giro-Tour the big goals. In between TdS or Dauphiné with a stage if possible. But a Giro or a Tour stage would be worth much more logically.
- How do you see the team for April and the Giro?
- For April good, we have a strong team both for Roubaix and the Ardennes.
- But in March we saw glaring weaknesses in the team, if it wasn't for your win in Sanremo this would have been a catastrophic season!
- Again, as I said, the agonistic tension was gone after MSR, so we shouldn't judge our team by the performance in Belgium at the end of March. We've reloaded now, I'm sure you'll see a much stronger team already today. But of course the hilly cobblestone races aren't our biggest strength, while I think we can fight for the win there too, our chances are clearly better in the Ardennes and in Roubaix.
- Ok, times up I'm told. Thank you for the interview, congratulations for the win in Sanremo and of course for your second rider of the season award.
- Thank you

Good, Lafargue up, now a real chance for Roubaix. Belhassen, Brotcorne, Larios, even Bogarin with one sprint up good too. Kolbeinsson with not enough downtraining though, no chance for the cheapest sale record for him.

Finance: +1'633'822. Similar to the last months, so good enough. Hopefully with the Coronavirus-induced higher numbers it will go down a bit next month.

After no new rider in March, possibly for the first time since summer/autumn 2015 that we didn't buy a new rider (riders bought after the month change somehow don't show up in the statistic) we are back to our usual rhythm in April.

- Samuel Lanz. From Köniz, even if we were misinformed at first, we thought he was from Bümpliz. 50-68-56-49-48, 35 reg. With 79 hidden pavé, so 71,3 now. His goal clearly is Paris-Roubaix 21, train flat and pavé as high as possible until then. We hope to get him to 81,1 pavé, 82 flat at least. Probably more of a helper than a leader. Starting at 50 in the first month he'll have to improve his mountain a bit, up to 54.... and later we'll see if we want to try to go a bit higher, to give him better chances in RVV. But first he simply has to train pavé. No results of any kind required till July. From then on we hope he can show something in the cobblestone races.

Goals for April. Pretty clear, the classics. The one we want to win most is the Flèche, the one that we care about least is as every year Amstel.

Giro outlook

Antinori-Larios: climbers
Armas-Belhassen: classics
Nägele-Krankl: 60-80
Bogarin sprinter
Brotcorne: Flat star
Swift: Reg guy

Right now that's how the team looks. A bit weak on reg really, 51 Krankl, 50 Swift 45 Nägele. Yes, Armas 50, but that's not where reg counts, we want it in flat riders or 60-80s usually.
But most likely this will be the team.
Lafargue in for his sprint-flat combination, possible. Hikmet for flat unlikely. Totakhyl as another classic rather pointless, so basically no chance. So this will be the team, 90%.

TdF outlook
The same but no Armas for sure. Lafargue seems the most likely guy to step up, Totakhyl next.
Possibly no Larios too, in then Totakhyl/Lafargue or a young rider.
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Re: Big Donkey

Post by Robyklebt » Fri May 01, 2020 3:45 pm


A good month, excellent! 7th in D1 with 11'664 points (a year ago 22 points more) 3 wins. GP Indurain, Paris-Roubaix and Flèche Wallonne.

The results in the big races:

DDV: 2. H. Belhassen.
RVV: 7. H. Belhassen.
Schelde: 5. T. Bogarin 8. H. Kunonga
PR; 1. G. Lafargue 8. O. Hikmet
Brabant: 4. T. Bogarin
AGR: 6. T. Bogarin
FW; 1. F. Antinori 2 J. Larios
LBL: 3. T. Armas 9. F. Antinori

2 wins, obviously more than happy with that. Both for Paris-Roubaix and the Flèche it was the 5th win, which is of course nice too. Worst result 7th, RVV, can be happy with that too, basically was somehow present in all classics in April.
Not really much to say about the races anymore, but since when does the Donkey shut up if there's nothing to say?
DDV don't remember anything really, RVV tried an attack with Armas-Belhassen
Schelde just the usual sprint.
PR: Riding for Lafargue, right and very lucky following after the last pavé.
Brabant, here the biggest regret maybe, Bogarin 4th, wins the sprint behind. Armas couldn't block the end, but if he follows the attack...maybe just one more guy could have blocked it?
AGR: Was actually somehow fun this year.. at the end, need to be more motivated for stuff like this. Next year.
FW: Seeing the group the win was likely, double win unnecessary, what counts is the win.
LBL: As lucky as the following was at PR, the non-following here was as stupid. But win one, don't win the other, ok for me, better than not winning either, which is more likely anyway.

Very nice as well that we had big groups for most races, 10-17, compared to 7-10 a year ago. (
The other win was Armas at GP Indurain, small group there for once, 6 teams. Double win there too, single enough, but if double is what we get, ok ok.

Rider of the month

Gérard Lafargue

He joined the team in december, as third card for Paris-Roubaix, since both Quttiboyev and Hikmet weren't fully convincing. So go for the guy with sprint. Doubtful he'll be ready for PR we thought, 1 month too early most likely, but he trained well. From 49-73 with 65 sprint to 49-87 with 69. And 81,3 pavé. Which made him a real option here, and he delivered.

-Gérard, your first win, Paris-Roubaix, the race you joined the team to win. And rider of the month. Congratulations
-Thank you. It was always my dream to ride and win Paris-Roubaix. So of course I'm happy, I could retire already now.
-I hope you won't! There's still many races to win for you.
-Don't worry, I won't retire. c4f doesn't allow retirements before 34 anyway, I'm 26 now. But, I might change teams. Big Donkey has been wondering if he should let me go. Do something for the market, and since I have done everything I wanted for the team... but probably he won't do it.
-So what are your goals for the future. After PR everything must seem unimportant, no?
-A bit yes. I hope to ride the Tour, either for Big Donkey or another team, look if I can get a stage there. Otherwise just the monthly flat pavé races, maybe the pavé tour in October November, but yeah... nothing too exciting.
-Will you ride the Giro?
-No, no, no chance. The Giro is all for Antinori. While we need a flat rider there, Armand being better in the mountains will go there. I prefer the Tour anyway, I'm French and of course at the Tour we'll have more freedom. Even if Antinori starts, the team will not be all for him, Bogarin, Belhassen, and hopefully me, we all should get our chances. At the Giro not.
-At Roubaix, when did you know you'd won?
-When we entered the Velodrome, I knew none of the others would beat me in a sprint there.
-How was the race for you?
-Less stressful than I thought it would be, I expected to be more nervous, but once we were on the road, I was relaxed. And we didn't have any problems within the team during the race, something that wasn't assured before the start. All 3 of us wanted to be leader, all 3 of us thought we could fight for the win. Once it was clear I was going to be the leader Quttiboyev first, Hikmet later worked very well for me. Without them, could never have done it.
-Was there a moment when you were worried?
-You're always worried. Crashes, flat tire. Ok, when Eggenberger was in front with Arvidsson, at first that was critical, but we didn't panic, and Tukhtahuaev immediately joined us behind, they didn't want to leave Eggenberger alone at that point. But before they were in, of course we were worried. If they decide to take the chance in front, would have been very very hard to come back. But worked well. Quttiboyev then Hikmet did an outstanding job.
-Then getting rid of Eggenberger, well done!
- Well, that happened more by chance than by design, they went, I wanted to follow Eggenberger but somehow ended up in their backwheel, so just stayed there, and when I checked Eggenberger was gone. So gave everything, and it worked.
-Thank you for this interview Gérard, and maybe you can win Paris-Roubaix next year again?
-I'll be 37... I doubt I'll still be active, but if I am, I'll at least try to be in the race. Winning again is unlikely.

+1'644'631. Third month in a row we're at +1,6 millions, excellent, 14'000 more than in March, 1306 less than in February.

Antinori 88, Totakhyl +4 mountain, now at 70, so all good.

Snorri Kolbeinsson retired on April first. He joined the team on 01.10.18. 48-72-70-46-44 with 37 reg starting skills. Best skills 50-91-75-46-44. First Donkey rider with 91 flat. Even if that was very short lived. He won 4 races too, the most important the London Surrey classic. Rode 263 races, got 1544 points. Now he works on an Icelandic whaling ship.

New rider
Baaba Faye from Senegal, nephew of Cheik Faye. But more talented for sure. Starting skills 54-74-75-66-47 with 40 reg. We got him for 1'844'481. Classic for the Giro 2021, good flat and downhill, too much time trial for our taste, but maybe will be useful in small hilly tours some day. For the moment he is supposed to train mostly. As usual, 70+ mountain the goal, 80+ flat the second one. He will give his debut on the 2nd in Iran. And is a possible TdF starter too.

Giro preview isn't necessary anymore, all clear since last month basically. The goals for May are of course clear anyway...

Other news:
The Donkey finally managed to finish his winning, points and riding stats.
Wins, depressing, only 7 riders with 10 wins or more.
Points, much better, 50 retired riders that have 5000 points or more!
And the following post ridden races, all riders with 300 or more. 2 joining that club soon. Matsukaze even quite high.
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Re: Big Donkey

Post by Robyklebt » Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:14 pm

Finally May... Big Donkey was unhappy about not getting a youth rider, so boycotted his own press center. That will teach me not to get a youth rider! Finally got one now for July, carrots and sticks, so now we update.

May all about the Giro of course. 4 stages, team classification, 2nd in GC.
Main goal was GC failed, but generally it went well. Just couldn't crack Neumann. Biggest problem of course that Neumann has 90 mountain and 58TT. Second problem that he had a strong team behind that. Third problem that I was the only challenger really. Considering that, it actually went pretty well. Strategy first was to wait for the last week, there really was no other option anyway. And support Pokemon with Pincemail to challenge Neumann, to make it a 2 front war for Moja. Still one front for me, let Moja deal with Poke, I concentrate on Neumann. Pincemail did indeed get into the game, not that I did much for it, was more talk than action, but well, Belhassen helped for a few seconds. Second day for Pincemail I concentrated on Bogarin, so that made success there highly unlikely for Pincemail, so he didn't try. Third one Pincemail didn't try either, Jefferson in front sort of made a coalition likely in the back, so not trying ok. (But don't know if he actually thought that far)
So, thanks to the Pincemail threat, that was under control, but still there I managed to lose less time than I thought I would to Neumann, but well, that's not enough to beat him. In the end came down to a big attack on the way to Sestriere, early attack by Antinori Larios, but that could only work if Neumann made mistakes, ride with his 87 helper, Heuer, too early. Or too late. Or ride with Neumann too early, thus ending up way under reg. Didn't happen, in the end the expected 2nd place. Still, good thing Moja was there, without him I'm convinced I would have won a boring edition, rather second in a still not overly exciting fight, but at least some thinking involved.
So no GC win, final result:

01. 00:00:00 Lutz Neumann (Team-Mojabahs)
02. 00:02:15 Fabio Antinori (Big Donkey)
03. 00:02:30 Nairo Bernal (Sport)
04. 00:03:47 Muchel Kafando (Sangiu ProTeam)
05. 00:04:31 Mathieu Pincemail (Pokemonogatari)
06. 00:04:32 Sasha Agarok (Luques)
07. 00:10:21 Javier Larios (Big Donkey)
08. 00:11:02 Pascal Heuer (Team-Mojabahs)
09. 00:12:03 Marco Fumari (Sangiu ProTeam)
10. 00:12:14 Dmitry Volodko (Falkenbier)

Instead I won 4 stages, which was nice too. At one point was worried about not winning a single one... Tried for Armas, failed etc. Then while riding for Bogarin, and failing, Armas won stage 12. Thanks to Neumann riding against Pincemail, Antinori won stage 15 to Piancavallo. Next Armas again, with 100 form won stage 16, 2 days later Antinori thanks to Neumann sprinting too early, at the last GPM stage 18. So all ok there, usually I'm happy even with just one stage, this time 4, all good.

Before the Giro Izatullah Totakhyl won a fantasy race.

So third in D1 with 13'590 points, 5 wins.

Rider of the month:

Tulio Armas
Antinori got 2 stages too, second in GC, but he was expected to be up there. Not to win 2 stages against Neumann, sure, but he was the leader with all the support. Armas with his 76-80 of course the strongest classic, so in a way his wins less surprising, but, he didn't start as leader, even on the day of his second win, 100 form, it wasn't decided to ride for him until past half of the stage. That's why he got the nod over Fabio.

Short interview:
-Tulio, rider of the month, congrats!
-I don't have much time, the TdS stage starts soon.
-33 years old, first time rider of the month. Are you happy?
-Of course, for me it was a good Giro. Unfortunately we didn't manage to topple Neumann, but on a personal level I'm very satisfied. I won 2 stages, did my job on the other ones. Only regret is being beaten in the GC by Volodko. Good rider, bad human being, as PG said in during the race. Or was it somebody else?
-6 career wins now. The ones in the Giro clearly the most important ones.
-Yes, obviously. Before that I hadn't won anything really important, GP Indurain of course is something, but nothing compared to a classic or a GT stage. Or even a PN/TA or so stage.
-Do yo
-Hurry up, time running out
-Ok, ok, do you have any regrets, not winning a classic?
-Of course, winning LBL was my goal, failed, but that's the way it goes. Ok, one more question.
-Next goal, Tour?
-Tour de Suisse, yes. Tour de France, no, won't start there. Belhassen and maybe Totakhyl will have to do the job there, I'm staying home, preparing San Sebastian. OK, gotta go!
-Thanks, good luck today and in San Sebastian!

+675'069. So good month again.


Good I think, twice Belhassen? Good man.


Hiroya Matsuzaka: Joined the team 01.11.2018 for 1'564'651. Starting skills: 52-73-77-47-50, 47 reg. Best skills: 64-83-77-47-50. Rode 310 races, so enters the Hall of fame for riders with over 300 races. 2126 eternal points. Glorious winner of 1 race, our only 1 team race so far. Telling that he managed to beat the strong opposition to win. His role was obviously that of a helper, 60-80. Don't remember much, so he most likely was a standard, but somehow anonymous 60-80, did his job, nothing more. Most annoying feature was that he looked like and had a similar name to Hiroyasu Matsukaze, so often mistook those 2... Hiroya now lives in Koganei city, Tokyo, where he works in a tennis club. Not that he's any good, but seems for beginners his skills are good enough.

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Re: Big Donkey

Post by Robyklebt » Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:47 pm


Place 4 in D1, 11'337 points.
4 wins 2 TdS stages, Larios and Antinori, a fantasy pavé race with Lafargue and a TdF stage with Bogarin. So good news, our classic heroes Bogarin and Lafargue finally start winning again.
We won the TdS GC with Antinori, who got the points and mountain jersey too, team classification and third place in GC for Larios too.
So a good month, even if of course the main goal, TdS wasn't a big group, and Rudy Schwyzer seemed more intent on attacking than on actually winning the TdS, so it somehow easy to win in the end, which didn't make it all that interesting, but well, in a few days we'll have forgotten that and just remember that we won! Yeah!

Rider of the month:

Fabio Antinori. Since he's in France riding the Tour, he is not available for an interview. But clear win for him this month. GC TdS, his second stage race, his first GPM jersey, the first of the year for the team too, his first points jersey, again the first of the year as well, first one since Zafzaf at Tirreno 2018 in fact. His goals for July are obviously the TdF. Where he was planned as the sole leader, now has to share the position with Bogarin though. Sole leader, he was happy with that, you'd expect him to be upset that Larios isn't there, but he said that's ok, then at least I'm sure to be leader.

Finances: +1'862'114

Training: Belhassen 74! Bogarin 77. So good I guess.

Hiroyasu Matsukaze: 01.12.2018-11.06.2020. Starting skills 49-56-63-50-64 with 36 reg. Bought for 1'246'421. Top skills: 63-59-5x-50-75. He rode 360 races, which places him in 6th place of races in the team. Won 8, got 7121 eternal points. A real star for the team, the last of the "Matsus", turned out to be a really good rider. 8 wins, including a Catalunya stage, a TdS stage, Hamburg and Agostoni. Agostoni, finally our first winner in that great race. His only failure was Milano Sanremo, where the team decided against riding for him before the Cipressa. The lack of cooperation by Liquigas mostly but also Gipfelstuermer, 2 teams that would have had chances if we went without the stronger sprinters, led to the maybe mistaken decision not to wait for Matsubara, 89 flat or maybe 88 at the time, and simply let all the sprinters back. That might have been Matsuzake's day, but management failed him. Attempts to make up for that early this year possibly cost Bogarin some wins, we insisted on riding for Matsukaze a few times, but he deserved it, even if he never managed to get win no 9+10. Still, 8 wins, 4 of them important ones is an outstanding career. 7121 eternal points puts him in 4th place of the sprinters, behind Fabulous Conti, Michael Creek and Gao Daoquan (we didn't remember our doctor (or former, have to check) was that good, but well, he made 36 more points than Matsukaze finally.) Great rider, great career! Thank you Matsukaze! He now has joined the team as sprint coach, replacing Luis Recordon who has decided to retire and go back to Chile for his retirement.
In other team-management news, Lakhdar Gaouaoui has become the new assistant general manager. Attila Farkas replaces him as Directeur sportif, while Matsubara-Tukhtasinov stay on as assistant DS.

New riders:
Fabian Messerli: 49-58-70-55-77 with 35 reg. A sprinter from Basel, with an untypical name... And a change in the team philosophy, the team has lifted its moratorium on sprinters with more than 80 sprint, Fabian Messerli will train sprint mostly at first. We hope he reaches something like 54-60-70-5x-89. His goal? Let's look at his name again. MeSseRli. Yes, Fabian MSR. The only reason to lift the moratorium is that it has become too boring with riders like Matsukaze or Bogarin to ride MSR, people copy our great team and now it's full of these guys. So let's try something else, the slightly weakish top sprinter with some mountain. Of course as a top sprinter, he claims the "slightly weakish" part is a lie, he will want more than just MSR. Possibly Vuelta stages, then something here and there until MSR, after that Giro and Tour. With again, other stuff welcome in between. His debut will most likely be shortly after the TdF, he can expect to be leader immediately in certain races. But of course more than wins now, we want him to train, up to 50-60-81 in July, then as much as his percentages allow in sprint in the following month, August, unless Luques decided otherwise.

Tim Eiffel: 70-56-79-60-56 with 45 reg. The Donkey has gone crazy? If Fabian MSR is a change, this is a fucking bloody revolution. 60 TT? Big Donkey? YES! We want to win everything now. Or we got frustrated with a) few good climbers on the market, virtually none in May, a few more in June, but going away like Matsukaze autograph cards, even offering 105% didn't get us one. So... fuck it, instead of settling for a 73-5x-7x with under 40 reg, or another non-flat one, or one without downhill, let's get Tim Eiffel. Ok, a TdF fanatic probably, but now, he clearly told us that he wants to win the Vuelta (Javier Larios hasn't been told), then the Andes, Dectour, January tour, TA or PN, Catalunya, PV, Romandie, the Giro, Dauphine or TdS and then the Tour. The full program. So ok, he convinced us, we sign him. Despite Bearclaw offering him a contract too, 483 credits less though, he signed with us. Our plan? Train him. And yes, we will cover the TT this time. First though mountain-flat. His debut? Unsure, he wants the Vuelta, but well, we're not sure about that, we'll see. Definitely the Andes, but by then he should have ridden a few races here and there. Possibly as early as San Sebastian, as a battery for the leaders.

Goals for July:
TdF, GC, grinamino. Or another stage win first somehow, big goals later, we'll see. Then San Sebastian.
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Re: Big Donkey

Post by Bear » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:06 pm

Nice transfers. I would have bought one of those climbers with tt if I had the money. It will be intersting to see how a climber like this performs in a team like yours. I once had Jeffrey Herlings with 84-61-79-60-50, 55 but he just did 8 starts ( at least he won TdS).
Also a nice leader for MSR - hopefully they will train well.

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Re: Big Donkey

Post by flockmastoR » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:39 pm

Pf the donkey with an Andes captain, right moment for my comeback. Anyway thanks to the little sprint coaching the other day. Worked out better today.
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Re: Big Donkey

Post by Robyklebt » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:45 pm

I always have an Andes captain... And by now I'm Andes record winner too. Some time after Schlömilch I started winning....

I don't remember any sprint coaching though.... :oops:
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Re: Big Donkey

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:07 pm


3rd in D1 with 11'501 points. 5 wins, 4 of them TdF stages. 3 times Antinori and once Lafargue. And our new sprinter then won his first race already, a fantasy race at the end of the month. Most important race of the month obviously the Tour, we got second place in a rather weird GC fight finally. 7" behind the winner Barrientos. Weird because both Antinori and Barrientos at times seemed intent of losing, not winning. But had to do with the fact that both had to ride without top support, not with the support they usually have, so in the end it became a seconds game due to both making mistakes here and there. But with the 5 stage wins of course still a very good Tour for the team.
San Sebastian the second big target of the month, Armas in topform, was first over the last hill, together with Larios, but as could be expected due to his downhill weakness was caught soon. Followed Volodko who attacked out of the small group, finshed second.

The rider of the month is: FABIO ANTINORI
3 stages, even if missing the GC win is enough for the fourth title for Fabio.

- Fabio, rider of the season for the fourth time, congratulations!
- Thank you
- Are you satisfied with your Tour?
- Missing 7" in the end.. .of course not completely, no, so close to the win, but still only second. But in general I'm ok with it, I gave what I had, wasn't enough.
- What was the decisive moment of the Tour?
- Don't think there really was a decisive moment. It started with the 2 bad stages in early June, I was recovering from a cold and not at my best. Without that my chances certainly would have been better. At the same time the race would have developed completely differently, so... don't think we can say there was one decisive moment or mistake, just the sum of many stages.
-At 35 years, what goals do you have left? Will you retire soon?
- I plan to keep riding this month, I will try to earn myself a place in the Vuelta. I know it will be difficult, but I'll try. I still feel comparatively fine. So if I get a chance to ride, I'll show the Big Donkey that bringing me to Spain is the right decision.
- Any thought about Lombardia?
- Well, that's far away, I will be 37 by then, I can't plan that far. I know I feel fine now, can't predict how it will be in a year. Even less in 2.
- So August first. Getxo I guess?
- Yes, Getxo the first goal.
-Ok then, we wish you success!
- Thanks.

Getting richer and richer without wanting too...Cheaper TdF team was not to save money, just to have a weaker team as usual in the TdF.

Excellent training by the 2 young stars, Messerli and Eiffel, with 4 doubles each. Good for the rest too, Lanz, Krankl Baaba.

Stephan Wiedmer (Sui) 01.01.2019-08.07.2020 Starting skills: 46-73-78-51-49 with 62 reg. Highest skills: 65-82-79-50-49, 76,6 pavé. So a guy who really knew how to train, +19 mountain, plus 9 flat. With his reg an expensive, but useful helper. And with his pavé always a potential leader for the hilly pavé races, but never managed to get a really good result. but well, in 2019 he was too young, in 2020 too old. So while at times we sort of attempted to ride for him, in the end it was others that had to bring the results. Well, placement in those races really. He won 2 races in his career, swiss champion in October 19, and a Down Under stage in 2020 the more important one in 264 races, 3550 points. He now works in a patisserie in Burgdorf, owned by his relatives.

New rider

Endeavour Trewlove from Oxford, England. His dream is and was to be a police officer, but his talent at cycling is just to great to waste it as a pig. So finally we managed to convince him to sign with us. After a thorough investigation of our medical department Endeavour came to the conclusion that we don't have a doping progam, so he had no ethical objections to sign anymore. His skills are 52-73-66-53-45 with 37 reg. His role should be a flat rider with some mountain, basically the guy who pilots Messerli from the Cipressa to Sanremo, hit the front in the flat, hang on on the Poggio. So his main training will be flat, where he'll hopefully reach 87 or more. Hill, 55 or so should be enough. With his reg he's probably not the ideal man for stage races, but if the training goes well he should start there as part of Messerli's team too. He probably won't have many chances to ride for himself, with 66,1 pavé right now, so 50 internal he won't ever amount to much there either.
For the first few months of course we expect him mostly to train and bring bottles to the sprinters, from October on maybe some tempo etc. can be expected more often.
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Re: Big Donkey

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:26 pm

Breaking news

After the team manager forgot to inscribe Gérard Lafargue to Slag om Norg today, a race that Lafargue would have won quite handily, after all he had 100 form too, Monsieur Lafargue has demanded that his contract be dissolved with immediate effect. After prolonged and heated negotiations, the team has convinced Gérard to agree to a compromise. Instead of dissolving the contract, the team has agreed to sell him immediately.

Gérard Lafargue joined the team 01.12.2019, with the following starting skills: 49-73-52-52-65 with 71,5 pavé. His skills now are 49-88-50-51-70. He won 3 races in his 8 seasons with the team: Paris-Roubaix, a fantasy race in June and then the 19th stage of the Tour de France, Bourg-en-Bresse - Champagnole. 2634 eternal points in 92 races, 512 current points.

At 29 years, he still has 4 seasons before he will start downtraining, and he hopes to stay competitive until the age of 37, that's when he would like to win his second Paris-Roubaix. The team management had it's doubts about that plan, but thought that he would be a win candidate in pavé races for another 6 seasons for sure, then start suffering when the real season restarts. Of course he can be used as an early man in a sprint train too.

Despite the not exactly harmonic exchanges we've had with Gérard Lafargue over the past few hours, we hope he will find a new team soon, where he can continue his career with success.

A short statement by Gérard Lafargue:
Absolutely scandalous. After the Tour I was informed that I wouldn't ride the Vuelta, after winning a stage at the Tour no Vuelta. Ok, je m'en fous de la Vuelta. Paris-Tour mon prochain grand objective
-English please!
Vas te faire foutre, âne de merde!
Will cut that right, press slave?
- Yes of course Mr Donkey!
So ok, English, no Vuelta, no problem, in August I'll concentrate on Bruxelles, Plouay. No said the management, we want to win a race early, Slag om Norg, we're doing the Vuelta, so can't ride Plouay and Bruxelles anyway. Ok then, I trained hard for today. I had an excellent team around me. And then when I wanted to sign in, I realized I wasn't inscribed for the race. Such lack of professionalism is unacceptable. And Mr. Donkey had the gall, to accuse me of not wanting to ride when I wasn't allowed to start. He had forgotten to inscribe me and accuses me? Over and done, I leave this team, I refuse to stay here even one day longer. They forget to inscribe me for a race? A race that everybody knows I would have won easily? While my teammates Hikmet, Brotcorne and Quttiboyev, managed to lose a four man sprint vs a guy from another team. Well, they can't sprint, they are good riders, have my full respect, but sorry, they sprint as well as Happyton climbs. I enjoyed riding with those 3, was looking forward to mentoring Lanz, but after today I can't stay here. And recommend to the others, at least Lanz, he's young, to leave as soon as possible too. I hope I find another team soon, a team with a team manager that manages to inscribe me to the races I'm ordered to train for. Ideally of course a team that won't do the Vuelta, I think I can do well in Plouay. And Bruxelles, ok, seems it will be quite hilly this year, not ideal, but anyway, finally everything is better than here after today. Fuck you Donkey
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