Team Attack Gipfelstuermer TDF 15h Stage 5

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Team Attack Gipfelstuermer TDF 15h Stage 5

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Wed Jul 05, 2023 10:54 pm

Km: 104, Steigung: -2
Paolo Perucca (Gipfelstuermer) attackiert
Alexandre Fanha (CircleCycle) geht mit
Peter Maierhofer (Quickstep) geht mit
Rafa Rubiano (Gipfelstuermer) geht mit
Romain Delaunay (CircleCycle) geht mit
Marco Medina (Gipfelstuermer) attackiert
Lucien Trutat (Big Donkey) geht mit
Urs Steiner (Big Donkey) geht mit
Héctor Mabchado (Cultural Salamanca) geht mit
Rotu Kiipeilijä (L RSV) geht mit
The attack was out of a leading group of 15 riders. To my defense, I didn't realize it and I could not check after the attack, how many riders were in the leading group before the attack. So I trusted the chat and interpreted that it were less than 15 riders, but in fact it were exactly 15 riders as seen in the replay, which makes it technically a team attack.
Schappy(15:54): some much rules in this one rule
Schappy(15:54): a less then 16 riders
CircleCycle(15:54): Trutat in front should be enough, no?
Big Donkey(15:54): Group small enough, under 15 riders I'm pretty sure
T-Mobile-A(15:54): good point
Schappy(15:53): not enough riders for a team attack or not?
I cannot predict what would have happened if I had dropped one rider then. Stage winner Oberdorf came from another group. Time differences could be different, but difficult to say for me. So I leave that to FPC. Also I will abstain from my own vote in this case. If there is a fine or a time penalty, I will accept it.
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Re: Team Attack Gipfelstuermer TDF 15h Stage 5

Post by schappy » Thu Jul 06, 2023 6:10 am

We all doesnt realize this right. But in this case, the sense of the rule should be relevant for the judgement. It was for all of us for the feeling the ende of the race and a small group and in my opinion in this case everything is fine. Small group, stage and GK fight. But only my opinion no blaming for this :)
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Re: Team Attack Gipfelstuermer TDF 15h Stage 5

Post by flockmastoR » Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:54 am

FPC is reviewing this case
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Re: Team Attack Gipfelstuermer TDF 15h Stage 5

Post by luques » Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:36 am

flockmastoR wrote:
Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:54 am
FPC is reviewing this case
Some things never change I see :)

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Re: Team Attack Gipfelstuermer TDF 15h Stage 5

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Jul 15, 2023 11:53 am

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Re: Team Attack Gipfelstuermer TDF 15h Stage 5

Post by team fl » Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:09 pm

FPC DECISION: No fine, no ban

Neglectable impact and reasonable behaviour. Although waking up Luques migth even deserve a reward.
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