melvasyl - unrealistic riding? revenge tempo?

[Alkworld]

After yesterday's all-race tempo, the same is set for today, this time with a lengthy message:

finissons en beauté,dommage qu'une minorité de joueurs de ce site veuillent garder le monopole pour etre au sommet de ce site,et oui c'est toute leur vie ce site,ils n'ont rien d'autres les no lifes ,pour moi c'est terminé sans regret meme si ca me passait bien le temps au travail,je trouverai bien un autre site pour m'amuser et ne pas jouer ma vie a chaque course comme certains ici ,bonne chance aux nouveaux qui vont vite s'apercevoir que certains anciens s'arrangent toujours pour ne pas que les autres existent,c'est malheureux mais c'est la vie,sur ceux bonne continuation

Google translates it as follows:

let's finish in style, too bad that a minority of players on this site want to keep the monopoly to be at the top of this site, and yes this site is their whole life, they have nothing other than the no lives, for me it's over without regret even if it passed me a lot of time at work, I will find another site to have fun and not risk my life at each race like some here, good luck to the new ones who go quickly to see that some elders always manage not to let the others exist, it's unfortunate but that's life, on those good luck

What's the FPC's opinion on that topic? Is it worth stopping this behaviour within the race (e.g. by taking the team out or stopping the tempo)? Is this a kind of vigilantism ("Selbstjustiz") that needs to be stopped?

[Gipfelstuermer]

FPC is reviewing the case.

[bergwerk cycling]

Kick him out before the race starts!

his comments from day one were also way over the limit.

[schappy]

At Stage 3:
melvalsyl(14:04): bon allez tous vous faire foutre j'arrete ce site
melvalsyl(14:06): this will be my last race, I see why it's always the same for 10 years go goodbye


(he want a group, but someone make tempo in the peloton)

At Stage 4 he makes Tempo at the beginning, and now again...

[flockmastoR]

Kick him out before the race starts!

his comments from day one were also way over the limit.

what comment? Ich frag dich jetzt hier zum 3. mal: Kannst du die Beispiele bitte hier erwähnen?

[bergwerk cycling]

Kick him out before the race starts!

his comments from day one were also way over the limit.

what comment? Ich frag dich jetzt hier zum 3. mal: Kannst du die Beispiele bitte hier erwähnen?

achso mich ... war irgendein rechts gesinntes nationalistisches Schwachsinnsgeschwafel bei dem stevens schrieb, er würde sich gleich für den Franzosen mitschämen.
Für einen Ausschluss zu wenig - trotzdem peinliches und unnötiges Geschreibe.

[team fl]

Kick him out before the race starts!

his comments from day one were also way over the limit.

what comment? Ich frag dich jetzt hier zum 3. mal: Kannst du die Beispiele bitte hier erwähnen?

achso mich ... war irgendein rechts gesinntes nationalistisches Schwachsinnsgeschwafel bei dem stevens schrieb, er würde sich gleich für den Franzosen mitschämen.
Für einen Ausschluss zu wenig - trotzdem peinliches und unnötiges Geschreibe.

Es ging im Grunde darum, dass die Franzosem den Deutschen überlegen seien. Dann noch was zur Tricolore (überlegene Farbrn, etc.) und das wars.

[team fl]

Update: The case is ongoing, still no reaction from melvasyl. But it looks like he created new accounts (yes, plural).

The FPC is still discussing how to deal with such cases in the future. If you have an opinion about it, let us know with your comment here. We cannot promise that it will be taken into account, but hey, more is more . Thanks!

[lennylenny]

Clearly ban all the extra accounts as soon as you detect them (which i assume you already do)
And have the multicreation be a reason to at least escalate the punishment one step further than without the multi creation, depending on how many new ones he creates, maybe escalate even further

[flockmastoR]

Clearly ban all the extra accounts as soon as you detect them (which i assume you already do)
And have the multicreation be a reason to at least escalate the punishment one step further than without the multi creation, depending on how many new ones he creates, maybe escalate even further

The call for ideas was meant about the original actions. Right now, it is very easy to judge a case regarding team attacks, because it is clearly given by the rules WHAT exactly a team attack is.

Apart from Prohibited team attacks, there are no, lets say hard coded rules. The Unrealistic Arrangements part is very unspecific, nevertheless it contains Every manager must do the best for his team, which is IMO clearly violated when a team is riding the first 80km of a stage in red tempo with all riders, ending up with a dead team that is dropped. Anyways, it's our job to make a decision.

But what was demanded from some was to actively interfere into the race, put a team out of tempo, stuff like this. This for sure would need a discussion and a broad majority of the community that supports it + clear rules on when it is possible.

[Gipfelstuermer]

FPC Decision on this case:

100,000 Fine

referring to "Every manager must do the best for his team".

[team fl]

Update: After receiving another 250'000 fine (incl. ban for new accounts) for multi accounting, melvasyl continued to create new accounts and is now banned because of it. There was no reaction from him whatsoever.