Team Toto offline hanging

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Team Toto offline hanging

Post by lennylenny » Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:04 pm

Team Toto is always hanging two riders offline and then joining the race very late, not leaving any chance for the group if they don't want to gift Toto the win, this is clearly intentional offline abuse and should be punished in my eyes
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Re: Team Toto offline hanging

Post by schappy » Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:51 pm

Often happend but no chance. its not gentleman agreement but not against any rules.
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Post by Gipfelstuermer » Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:58 am

Which fairplay rule has been broken? Or which new fairplay rule do you propose?
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Re: Team Toto offline hanging

Post by lennylenny » Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:38 pm

not directly rule break but definitely not following this abstract of the manual:
Therefore the rules of fair-play are not there to dictate to the teams their way to play/race, but to prevent that certain teams use techniques which do not have anything in common with a normal realistic race

0 cooperation because of offline abuse with no way to shake it off is definitely not in the spirit of the rules
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Re: Team Toto offline hanging

Post by flockmastoR » Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:07 am

lennylenny wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:38 pm
not directly rule break but definitely not following this abstract of the manual:
Therefore the rules of fair-play are not there to dictate to the teams their way to play/race, but to prevent that certain teams use techniques which do not have anything in common with a normal realistic race

0 cooperation because of offline abuse with no way to shake it off is definitely not in the spirit of the rules
Well, it's annoying. But he can do this kind of bs tactic even when he is on. When everybody knows he shows up, then it is not really against a certain rule. Killing escapes tactic is annoying, but you need to find riders without a group killer hanging.
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Re: Team Toto offline hanging

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:43 am

It's actually exactly the kind of action the fairplay comment/vote system is for.
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Re: Team Toto offline hanging

Post by lennylenny » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:24 pm

Robyklebt wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:43 am
It's actually exactly the kind of action the fairplay comment/vote system is for.
Now Toto is giving revenge -3 with no reason given, can those be removed?
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Re: Team Toto offline hanging

Post by team fl » Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:54 pm

lennylenny wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:24 pm
Robyklebt wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:43 am
It's actually exactly the kind of action the fairplay comment/vote system is for.
Now Toto is giving revenge -3 with no reason given, can those be removed?
Short, stupid but deserved question: Why?
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Re: Team Toto offline hanging

Post by lennylenny » Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:50 pm

team fl wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:54 pm
lennylenny wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:24 pm
Robyklebt wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:43 am
It's actually exactly the kind of action the fairplay comment/vote system is for.
Now Toto is giving revenge -3 with no reason given, can those be removed?
Short, stupid but deserved question: Why?
abuse of fairplay voting
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Re: Team Toto offline hanging

Post by flockmastoR » Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:56 pm

lennylenny wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:50 pm
team fl wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:54 pm
lennylenny wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:24 pm
Robyklebt wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:43 am
It's actually exactly the kind of action the fairplay comment/vote system is for.
Now Toto is giving revenge -3 with no reason given, can those be removed?
Short, stupid but deserved question: Why?
abuse of fairplay voting
Well, if that would be a thing, were should we start. It's like it is, a manager can check your fairplay votings and than Totos votings and than he/she can judge.
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Re: Team Toto offline hanging

Post by team fl » Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:35 pm

lennylenny wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:50 pm
team fl wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:54 pm
lennylenny wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:24 pm
Robyklebt wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:43 am
It's actually exactly the kind of action the fairplay comment/vote system is for.
Now Toto is giving revenge -3 with no reason given, can those be removed?
Short, stupid but deserved question: Why?
abuse of fairplay voting
How? There are no rules for the fairplay voting beside the common ones like no aggressive language, insults, etc.
I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said.

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