Unrealistic riding Team Gigi

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Unrealistic riding Team Gigi

Post by Hansa » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:00 pm

19H Route of the three wise men.
Stage 3

After the Sieb Fighting for classemen Waerl vs Hansa

Gigi with 4 Guys in the front classic Group and just 1 guy in the back Grouzp with the Waerl yellow Jersey joins tempo there and helps waerl.
To this Point ok strange but ok-.

after this fight goes on for 15kms he then starts to drop his classics from the front to the 2nd Group despite not having any gc guy or any guy for the stage in that 2nd Group and Closes the gap with his classics in the 2nd Group.

that in my opinion is not riding the best for his Team it is purely riding against me and influencing the classement without any Advantage for him.

dropping guys from the front Group to the back to then ride there instead of just having them in front is really strange. no Chat from gigi About this.

RS Coesitz witnessed the race as a Visitor if you Need confirmation About what happened.

Km: 170, Steigung: 3
Waer Ibak (waerl) schafft es nicht an die Spitze
Waer Kiaby (waerl) schafft es nicht an die Spitze
Alex Schwartz (waerl) schafft es nicht an die Spitze

Km: 169, Steigung: -2

Km: 168, Steigung: -2
Gerald Ozlberger (team gigi) l�sst sich zur�ckfallen


dropped 2 classics km 168 dont know why it only Shows 1 but then rode at the 3% with These classics in the 2nd group and Closing the gap till km 172
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Re: Unrealistic riding Team Gigi

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:58 pm

Hansa,

"unrealistic riding" is not prohibited in RSF. In fact, some argue that a lot about this game is unrealistic....

However, "unrealistic arrangements are not allowed" (see Fairplay Rules).

Gip
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Re: Unrealistic riding Team Gigi

Post by Hansa » Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:35 pm

Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:58 pm
Hansa,

"unrealistic riding" is not prohibited in RSF. In fact, some argue that a lot about this game is unrealistic....

However, "unrealistic arrangements are not allowed" (see Fairplay Rules).

Gip
Von der Spielleitung geahndet werden unfaire Verhaltensweisen, die die Lücken des Systems ausnutzen. Spieler, die mit unrealistischen Verhaltensweisen arbeiten, es z.B. ausnutzen wollen, wenn in der Anfangsphase wenige online sind (der klassische Teamangriff), müssen damit rechnen durch Punktabzug, Geldabzug, Rennsperren bestraft zu werden. Dies lässt sich nicht alles in ein ausformuliertes Regelwerk fassen und vieles steht auch noch zur Diskussion.

Da muss ich dich informieren das unrealistische Verhaltensweisen durchaus laut Regel verboten sind.
danach werden nach z.B. Beispiele angeführt die aber nicht ausschließen, dass auch andere sachen geahndet werden können. und seine Fahrer von vorne nach hinten fallen lassen um dort zu fahren obwohl man dort gar keinen Grund hat ist meiner Meinung nach extremst unfair.

Desweitern ist Fahrer von vorne nach hinten Fallen lassen ohne dadurch hinten einen Vorteil hat bestimmt auch gegen diese Fairniss regel:

Jedes Team muss so handeln, wie es für das eigene Team am besten ist.

er hatten keine Vorteil durch das Fahrer droppen und dort zu fahren.
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Re: Unrealistic riding Team Gigi

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:49 pm

Yes, the english version of the fairplay rules (those that you have to agree before the race) is the same:

There is this rule: "unrealistic arrangements are not allowed", as mentioned
and this rule: "every manager must do the best for his team . Separation of private and RSF is required."

Do you accuse Team Gigi of one of them or both or something else?

If we open a case (even with low probability of success) would at least like to know, which rule we are talking about it...
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Fairplay: Improve FPC features, Fair Prize Money Disribution.

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Re: Unrealistic riding Team Gigi

Post by Hansa » Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:51 pm

dont know which fits more. i guess its more like not riding for his Teams interest. he let his Teams interest down for riding directly against me.
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Re: Unrealistic riding Team Gigi

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:54 pm

FPC is reviewing this case.
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Marketing: Re-attract old players. Advertisement. Social Media.
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Fairplay: Improve FPC features, Fair Prize Money Disribution.

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Re: Unrealistic riding Team Gigi

Post by Hansa » Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:45 pm

stage 4 he does the same again.

dropping a classic from a front group back to waerl, gigi did not even have a rider in this waerl Group, and then starts riding and pulls waerl to 2nd place in classement.

ill add screenshot later.
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Re: Unrealistic riding Team Gigi

Post by Hansa » Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:08 pm

Gigi purposely dropping riders to pull others km 177.png
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KM 177 after the last sieb km gigi with all 4 classics in front
Gigi purposely dropping riders to pull others km 179.png
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gigi dropping his guy back
Gigi purposely dropping riders to pull others km 180.png
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gigi dropping his guy behind my group
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Re: Unrealistic riding Team Gigi

Post by Hansa » Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:09 pm

Gigi purposely dropping riders to pull others km 182.png
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gigi Drops down to the waerl Group, he has no rider here.
Gigi purposely dropping riders to pull others km 183.png
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gigi rides for waerl
Gigi purposely dropping riders to pull others km 184.png
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gigi saves gc place 2 and White Jersey with 2 seconds without having any Advantage of it. he even has a disadvantage because he lost positipons with his classic.
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