Multi check for Team WTZ ?

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Re: Multi check for Team WTZ ?

Post by Robyklebt » Wed May 06, 2020 2:44 pm

And that's how you welcome new player. Harass them!
He rode for his climber. Yes, tempo seemed somehow "experienced", but then putting a guy in tempo is not all that difficult, even free will learn it one day. But the idea to ride for a climber here certainly not.
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Re: Multi check for Team WTZ ?

Post by Robyklebt » Wed May 06, 2020 2:57 pm

I didn't talk to you, I talked to the FPK. Small difference. Probably your English skills failed you again.

Anyway, stop harrassing new players.
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Re: Multi check for Team WTZ ?

Post by Robyklebt » Wed May 06, 2020 3:07 pm

Show me where I harass you... :lol: No don't. you can't, we know.

You're not very good with communication, we get it. So you didn't mean to harass the new player, but if I was that guy I certainly would feel harassed and attacked. You're not very good with communication, we get it. Try to improve, do an effort.
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Re: Multi check for Team WTZ ?

Post by Hansa » Wed May 06, 2020 3:07 pm

Watched some race as visitor. Doesnt look like a multi to me. For sure we can check ips of new tesms if we want that.

And maybe he just dont want To Talk to you. I wouldnt either instead of offering help and tipps you immeditily criticed his playstyle and assumed hes a multi and riding for someone else.
If i would be new that would have stopped me from talking to you.
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Re: Multi check for Team WTZ ?

Post by Robyklebt » Wed May 06, 2020 5:16 pm

So that people don't fall into the trap of believing Hansa without checking themselves, here is the relevant part of the chat...

My conclusion is: needlessly aggressive, manipulative, dishonest.
StarWars: i see
Idéfix: you'll see this quite often here
Team WTZ: XD
Idéfix: so he is pulling peloton alone instead of letting favo doing it. Favo who is quietly in the wheels, profiting from that situation^^
Idéfix: 2 of them are "newbies", WTZ and you. You found the chat, him not -_-
Idéfix: in the "teams" tab, you can see how many races did each team
StarWars: only 3 team are only how I see
Idéfix: well, we are on a 50% rate of new players that find the chat. Much better than usual rate, but... still sad for the race^^
StarWars: okay
Idéfix: a climber will not win today
Idéfix: (do a few short races to try this^^)
Team WTZ: i have the best climber in the race tho
Idéfix: (or maybe you are experimenting the different types of tempo)
StarWars: oh I don't want to do that..
Idéfix: you did not need to fall back today^^ but was a note for future!
Idéfix: and behind, is that really your first race WTZ? Or you do tempo for Liqui ?^^
StarWars: Ohh I see
Idéfix: going in escape group with a climber without flat is not the best^^ you won't get helped later in stage for that, and you will be unable to follow attacks in flat
StarWars: i will ask it
Idéfix: I may ask myself help for stupid moves I do^^
Idéfix: (in case you find it)
Idéfix: WTZ and StarWars, if you need help, feel free to ask in chat
Idéfix: hello
Pokemonogatari: hello
Big Donkey: Hi
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Re: Multi check for Team WTZ ?

Post by Robyklebt » Wed May 06, 2020 7:29 pm

To make it easier for you to understand the criticism:

Needlessly aggressive: Idéfix: and behind, is that really your first race WTZ? Or you do tempo for Liqui ?^^

Dishonest: Idéfix: well, we are on a 50% rate of new players that find the chat. Much better than usual rate, but... still sad for the race^^

Manipulative: Idéfix: so he is pulling peloton alone instead of letting favo doing it. Favo who is quietly in the wheels, profiting from that situation^^

Some of course would easily qualify for more than one category, but let's keep it simple.

Just take the advice, be nicer to newcomers. Don't take it from me, listen to Hansa.
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
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Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!

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