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TeamSWE - insult
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:08 am
by RS Coesitz
In the fairplay-voting: "biggest asshole in the game - should be banned forever" against free team.
Re: TeamSWE - insult
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:10 pm
by ProTour-Team
especially a guy with 40 races who doesnt even know my storys from more than 4 years ago..

Re: TeamSWE - insult
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:21 pm
by Hunsrueck
fpc is reviewing this case
Re: TeamSWE - insult
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:07 pm
by RS Coesitz
Idéfix wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:55 pm
ProTour-Team wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:10 pm
especially a guy with 40 races who doesnt even know my storys from more than 4 years ago..
You are very efficient in your way

maybe don't need more than 40 races ^^
I think it does not matter who gets insulted, the problem is the insult. Thanks for reviewing!
Re: TeamSWE - insult
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:51 am
by scorpsche
I apologize for my language...I got emotional.
Should have used other words for his behavior.
Re: TeamSWE - insult
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:15 pm
by chartreusecycle
It should be also reviewed WHY TeamSWE insult free team.
free team behaviour is more than borderline - already fined and warned several time with behaviour improvement
Re: TeamSWE - insult
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:54 pm
by team fl
chartreusecycle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:15 pm
It should be also reviewed WHY TeamSWE insult free team.
free team behaviour is more than borderline - already fined and warned several time with behaviour improvement
It would be always nice to have some quotations and sources for the allegations and clear numbers. "serveral time(s)" may be very open interpreted and borderline may have "several" meanings. Anyway, if this is the case and it is well known, why not just ignore him? It seems to me, this is not the first time that the user of TeamSWE got in contact with the accused individual...
Anyway, if it is an insult indeed, there should be a penalty. The penalty spectrum should include the context of course.
Re: TeamSWE - insult
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:07 pm
by deuseburger
Moin miteinander...
Do we really want to open this door?!
Though nowhere specified i´ve always been under the assumption the insulted ought to open a thread like this. I cant imagine you want people to screen through the fairness votings in order to open threads demandig fines for whomever...
Just in case i´m wrong you may want to start screening mine, pretty sure there are some "assholes" to be found, even the recipient might be the same...
cheers deuse
Re: TeamSWE - insult
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:11 am
by RS Coesitz
chartreusecycle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:15 pm
It should be also reviewed WHY TeamSWE insult free team.
free team behaviour is more than borderline - already fined and warned several time with behaviour improvement
Same argumentation had free some weeks ago: others used the bug, so I can use it too. He was banned for this. That´s no argument, that´s a confession. And much more: it should not be watched who gets insulted or who insults. No one should be insulted here and no one should insult.
And by the way: I was in this race, the only one with strange behaviour there was TeamSWE.
Re: TeamSWE - insult
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:43 pm
by chartreusecycle
Big Donkey<15:08>: And actually it wasn't highlighted by free.
TeamSWE<14:48>: and he as well
TeamSWE<14:47>: overall i voted him positive

TeamSWE<14:47>: But if you look recent voting history between free and me you see that we got along better
TeamSWE<14:23>: i was very angry since it is my first team and obv. and made wrong choices in the beginning...but 15 millions isn't a lot and you cannot have l1 team
TeamSWE<14:22>: maybe it was the race where rfm wrote: "your team is crappy"...and free made fun of me
TeamSWE<14:21>: honestly i don't even remember the situation...probably i felt he was bullying me
TeamSWE<14:21>: if a punishment is done for that, i ll accept it
TeamSWE<14:20>: it was not correct what i said
Should be taken into account for final judgement
free team behaviour clearly borderline even if he acts as a victim - free team being under warning since his last unfairplay action
Re: TeamSWE - insult
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:55 pm
by Robyklebt
Where is free teams behaviour borderline either in this thread or in the excerpt from the main chat you posted? And while he loooooooooooves to pose as a victim in general, where and when did he do that in this case?
Re: TeamSWE - insult
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:33 pm
by VeloClubDouchy
Wasn't a race with RFM. I was here. Was the race with Vuvuzela sieb ! And SWE with no chance in front ride uphill km (when me with my sprinter in front didn't work for example). After that, people try to know why he ride like that. Maybe PTT was a bit 'hard' but no insult, nothing, only try to understand.
Re: TeamSWE - insult
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:32 pm
by scorpsche
VeloClubDouchy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:33 pm
Wasn't a race with RFM. I was here. Was the race with Vuvuzela sieb ! And SWE with no chance in front ride uphill km (when me with my sprinter in front didn't work for example). After that, people try to know why he ride like that. Maybe PTT was a bit 'hard' but no insult, nothing, only try to understand.
Hi Velo,
I said I don't remember the race itself anymore and probably there was some chat between free and me - however not so sticky that I still can recall it.
I apologized here already for my words and in game chat I was just replying.
And being said we didn't continue to have a problem after that race - at least not from my side.
There might be a fine for me or not for this but I don't understand what can be more discussed about the topic.
For me everything is said a long time ago.
Re: TeamSWE - insult
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:55 pm
by ProTour-Team
Dont recall the race aswell and obviously chart has a bigger problem with me than SWE or vice versa

(at least for now

)
Re: TeamSWE - insult
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:09 pm
by Hunsrueck
PENALTY SUBMITTED: FINE OF70000, WARNING: YES