stage 6 - 15h - december tour
Only 2%, 27km before the end and not more than 10 riders.
Km: 198, Steigung: 2
Miguel Perez (Liquigas-CND) attackiert
Dragomir Kitarovic (TheDreamTeam) geht mit
Sven Torstensson (Liquigas-CND) attackiert
Laurent Dufaux (Rasmussen) geht mit
Noha Peleikes (Fraeggfichten) geht mit
Adrian Büchel (Atletico Lula) geht mit
Leonard Pajeto (Atletico Lula) geht mit
Miguel Brandao (Hessen Cycling) geht mit
Paquito Ortiz (Liquigas-CND) geht mit
Diego Paz (TheDreamTeam) geht mit
Edit: CircleCycle rode this stage for Liquigas-CND.
Liquigas-CND team attack
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Re: Liquigas-CND team attack
Hi Wookie,
As wrote earlier on the chat:
1. Please also take in consideration that my sitter did not realize at that moment if it was or not team attack and then it was an entire discussion about whether it was or not team attack.
It is quite difficult to stay to count riders and teams from initial group and from new group when you ride a race.
2. As rasmussen said "then the complet group would lose more time. But it wont make a big difference." so the difference between the gaps with or without this team attack would have been quite close.
3. I am waiting your decision, 10-20 sec of penalty for Ortiz would be normal and correct in my opinion.
P.S. : If any fine, please dont give any finr to CC, cause anyway i have ruined 1 day of his vacation asking him desperately to sit me cause mosca was not answering anymore.
Thanks and Best regards,
Liqui
As wrote earlier on the chat:
1. Please also take in consideration that my sitter did not realize at that moment if it was or not team attack and then it was an entire discussion about whether it was or not team attack.
It is quite difficult to stay to count riders and teams from initial group and from new group when you ride a race.
2. As rasmussen said "then the complet group would lose more time. But it wont make a big difference." so the difference between the gaps with or without this team attack would have been quite close.
3. I am waiting your decision, 10-20 sec of penalty for Ortiz would be normal and correct in my opinion.
P.S. : If any fine, please dont give any finr to CC, cause anyway i have ruined 1 day of his vacation asking him desperately to sit me cause mosca was not answering anymore.
Thanks and Best regards,
Liqui
-GC: Giro'15,'16,18,19;TDF'16,'18,'20;Vuelta'16,'17,'18;Tirreno'16,Catalunya'16,'18,Suisse'16,Romandie'16, Vasco'19,Andes'16
-Stages won in GTs:57
-Classics:17
-Stages won in GTs:57
-Classics:17
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Liquigas-CND
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Re: Liquigas-CND team attack
One more thing, i think Lula climber and buchel should receive the same time as paquito group yesterday aso his climber should receive full energy.
He lost abt 2 min because of this attack.
Is this possible before the start of the race today???
See below also what CC said abt this gap of 2 min:
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his climber.... he did green tempo with büchel, his climber was 5" behind after the last climb, then he chased red tempo, but I kept him away...
only then he recalled it was a teamattack because only 9riders in front (he dropt büchel after the climb). but... he did green tempo not red, therefore lost the time.
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For Luques: Just not to lose the results from yesterday:
10.12.2016,15 Uhr Atlantico - Pacifico : Atlantico - Pacifico Stage 6: HC Bergetappe
1. 00:00:00 Andrija Gudelj (Tukhtahuaev)
2. 00:00:00 Rolf Jaermann (Rasmussen)
3. 00:05:43 Dragomir Kitarovic (TheDreamTeam)
4. 00:05:45 Paquito Ortiz (Liquigas-CND)
5. 00:05:45 Leonard Pajeto (Atletico
I dont know exactly the gap between Paquito group and Mihaita Grasu (Atletico Lula) and Buchel (Atletico Lula) but it was abt 2 minutes (maybe you can find it somehow when you will correct this gap).
Thank You,
He lost abt 2 min because of this attack.
Is this possible before the start of the race today???
See below also what CC said abt this gap of 2 min:
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his climber.... he did green tempo with büchel, his climber was 5" behind after the last climb, then he chased red tempo, but I kept him away...
only then he recalled it was a teamattack because only 9riders in front (he dropt büchel after the climb). but... he did green tempo not red, therefore lost the time.
unquote
For Luques: Just not to lose the results from yesterday:
10.12.2016,15 Uhr Atlantico - Pacifico : Atlantico - Pacifico Stage 6: HC Bergetappe
1. 00:00:00 Andrija Gudelj (Tukhtahuaev)
2. 00:00:00 Rolf Jaermann (Rasmussen)
3. 00:05:43 Dragomir Kitarovic (TheDreamTeam)
4. 00:05:45 Paquito Ortiz (Liquigas-CND)
5. 00:05:45 Leonard Pajeto (Atletico
I dont know exactly the gap between Paquito group and Mihaita Grasu (Atletico Lula) and Buchel (Atletico Lula) but it was abt 2 minutes (maybe you can find it somehow when you will correct this gap).
Thank You,
-GC: Giro'15,'16,18,19;TDF'16,'18,'20;Vuelta'16,'17,'18;Tirreno'16,Catalunya'16,'18,Suisse'16,Romandie'16, Vasco'19,Andes'16
-Stages won in GTs:57
-Classics:17
-Stages won in GTs:57
-Classics:17
Re: Liquigas-CND team attack
FPK reviewing the case
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CircleCycle
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Re: Liquigas-CND team attack
so what answer do you want?
You both (Wookie & Huns) got my message right after the race....
You both (Wookie & Huns) got my message right after the race....
Re: Liquigas-CND team attack
Team Liquigas-CND: PENALTY SUBMITTED: FINE OF70000, WARNING: NO
Re: Liquigas-CND team attack
Team CircleCycle: PENALTY SUBMITTED: FINE OF30000, WARNING: NO
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