1) RC Bad Hersfeld was off from the beginning but did make some settings, for example he followed with his classic the km1 attack (lorenzo)
group worked well first as the pullers did their job and the group had a gap of about 6min (Hersfeld off the whole time), then I was afk for some minutes, as I showed up again I saw that Hersfeld was online for at least 1km. Was looking in the chat if he told us anything ("dont have much time, no worry in the group, if I am not able to come and work with you I dont interfere" or something like that) neither did he let his rider fall out of the group
2) He never ever showed up again till 10km before the finish, I refused to work in the group, as I saw he was online to not be kicked out of the race and didnt let fall his rider back or say something (which is not against any rule I know, but I still dont find this ok)
3) As he showed up I asked him about the situation and he told me, he doesnt know who was online but he was not.
So 2 possibilities: 1) some other manager logged in that Hersfeld dont fall out of the race (illegal one day race sitting if hersfeld knew it, if he doesnt know it as he says it is also in his interest to know you is logging in his account)
2) (and I dont want to imply that) he is lying
As there is the possibility of ONE DAY RACE SITTING, I want to check the IPs of Bad Hersfeld today to know who was online in the middle of the race
Chat:
ThxTeam-Mojabahs: gw
Dead And Alive: but you made it well
Dead And Alive: was clear I dont beat you in a 100m battle as you were stronger
Dead And Alive: well i hoped you still hang on bob and he stops and folloows you
Ariostea: honestly - i don´t think this sprint system is good for sprint of small groups
Dead And Alive: another gw
Dead And Alive: shit
Dead And Alive: close
Dead And Alive: ahhhh
Dead And Alive: you proticol that?
Chartreuse Monks: yep in a tour
Dead And Alive: really?
Chartreuse Monks:
Chartreuse Monks: lessons learnt
Chartreuse Monks: last 2 sprint in 1 vs 1 I did with you you won by sprinting from 150m
Dead And Alive: gw de la rue
Dead And Alive: yes I did
Chartreuse Monks: seems yes
Dead And Alive: who knows?!
Chartreuse Monks: you sprint from 150m as well ?
Dead And Alive: would bet on de la rue
Dead And Alive: but great work in the back, you would have deserved it
Ariostea: should have won this...
Ariostea: had him there at first - then put luke there...
Dead And Alive: Skram most likely just on peric
Dead And Alive: still wondering why peric is not hanging on Kalou in the downhill part
Ariostea: no idea
Dead And Alive: did peric had to fight on the +6?
Ariostea: ah - this attack with peric was... i just hit the attack button at the wrong rider and then afterwards did not understand if he will attack or not...
Dead And Alive: de la rue that strong
Chartreuse Monks: lol yes
Dead And Alive: good its flat tomorrow
Ariostea: yeah - that´s because i don´t know how to sprint... and1 attack i did not want
Dead And Alive: many attacks in front
RC Bad Hersfeld: yes....sorry again
Dead And Alive: at least we are clear about that now
RC Bad Hersfeld: i agree with you
Chartreuse Monks: Enak not able to follow... strange
Dead And Alive: if you weren't shown online in the middle of the race, i would never had a problem, but you showing up, saying nothing and off again wouldnt be fairplay
Ariostea: ah damn... that was not meant like that...
RC Bad Hersfeld: just can say sorry.....i think i am a fair rider normaly
RC Bad Hersfeld: ok
Dead And Alive: after the race yes
RC Bad Hersfeld: do it
RC Bad Hersfeld: pc was locked
Dead And Alive: should ask buhmann about it
Dead And Alive: well would be interessting than to know who was online instead of you
RC Bad Hersfeld: i was afk... sorry....i made no click nothing...
Dead And Alive: yes i did
RC Bad Hersfeld: i dont know....did you see me online?
Dead And Alive: its just not true you were listed "online" after 50km or so
Dead And Alive: and how could you avoid the 60% rule then?
RC Bad Hersfeld: i was afk from km 7 i think or anything like taht
Dead And Alive: are they here?
Dead And Alive: you werent afk the whole race, otherwise your riders would be not here
RC Bad Hersfeld: yes but i was afk
Dead And Alive: "drop from group" is just one klick away
RC Bad Hersfeld: because of hanging no one needs to kill group....thats not right i think
Dead And Alive: you were online a moment to not be kicked out of the race
RC Bad Hersfeld: because i hang from the beginning and couldn't come online.....sorry
Dead And Alive: I am tiered of this "work" argument, if you dont have the time dont play rsf in your working time, and if dont hang and destroy others races too
Chartreuse Monks: no need to be that aggresiv
Dead And Alive: why you fucking hang and destroy the group than?
RC Bad Hersfeld: sorry...work
Dead And Alive: no? just attacking in the back for nothing, ok
Dead And Alive: some comment hersfeld?
Chartreuse Monks: OH HErsfeld is back
Dead And Alive: sry
Dead And Alive: oh just saw everbody was able to follow
Ariostea: the opera guy...somebody who is not following...
Chartreuse Monks: good move
Chartreuse Monks: :p
Chartreuse Monks: grrr
Ariostea: CCfor example
Dead And Alive: dont know whom you thought to get rid of on a -9 attacj
Dead And Alive: hm interessting
Ariostea: ah - plus renner...
Dead And Alive: its not
Ariostea: you could ahve this easier...
Ariostea: pff - this is the same group we had all day?
Chartreuse Monks: comeback/keep pressure
Chartreuse Monks: some help in group 2 to come back ?
Chartreuse Monks: ok
Dead And Alive: -t
Dead And Alive: not talking about powert
Chartreuse Monks: EM how much energy is Liouville ?
Ariostea: yes... no problem
nevencycling: yes
Ariostea: you mean , you stop tempo there, right...
Ariostea: yeah ok...
nevencycling: i let them fall, ok?
Ariostea: wait for neven? - not sure... don´t trust this group...they have a lot of energy left...
Ariostea: i will ride with Livia...and wait if nothing happens
CheGue: i will ose a new one for uphills....
nevencycling: ok but if you want baltus to work you can't go too fast
Ariostea: that looks to slow... boca will be dropped anyway
nevencycling: maybe with these riders and 138 with fresh ones?
Ariostea: how do we ride km 136 in the back?
Chartreuse Monks: I know
Dead And Alive: i have no problem with that
Chartreuse Monks: am riding to pass the hill
Dead And Alive: you guys are just riding for the extra moneay, no problem with that and i dont interfere so whats the problem?
Chartreuse Monks: to get 1 heper more afterwards
Dead And Alive: for what?
Ariostea: yeah - just don´t drop him... at km 117 again...
Chartreuse Monks: EM at least lets go to pass the next mountain
CheGue: oh sorry Ario....
Dead And Alive: wit hersfeld in it
Dead And Alive: group is done for me
Dead And Alive: its not fairplay to show up, not say a word and go off again
Chartreuse Monks: why CheGue not waiting for Ariostea ?
kenzot: all in and hope hersfeld fair play
Dead And Alive: as i said: no
Chartreuse Monks: EM tempo
Dead And Alive: and now he is even stealing me points off, what a desaster
Dead And Alive: hate such guys
Ariostea: hersfeld on and off with strongest rider in the group might kill the group...
Dead And Alive: hersfeld off and not even writing one sentence in the chat while he was here?
Chartreuse Monks: just killl Soulama and WIndey yes alone :p
Dead And Alive: when hersfeld is on and doing tempo first no problem
Team-Mojabahs: 96 ok
opera: yes
Chartreuse Monks: classikers in green
Chartreuse Monks: ok for you guys ?
Chartreuse Monks: from 96 all in ?
Chartreuse Monks: ... hanging
Chartreuse Monks: but Hersfeld off
Dead And Alive: and hersfeld was on and now off again?
Ariostea: yes - but for everybody behind this is a good situation... why do you go to a group with such strong riders... Lorenz , baumann...
Chartreuse Monks: in green
Chartreuse Monks: especially Lorenz and Baumann
Chartreuse Monks: that is why I propose strong classik now in tempo green
Dead And Alive: bigger problem will be to get the group working together
kenzot: we go for points?
Chartreuse Monks: in order not to sieb later on
Ariostea: the problem with the front group is - that there are really strong riders in...and we will lose time again when they start riding cause we can´t go fast too soon
kenzot: fresh in front no chance to win
Chartreuse Monks: maybe strong classic could ride first 10km in green
Chartreuse Monks: less than 3min for 125km...
Dead And Alive: at least i can rest my team a bit
Chartreuse Monks: @front what is the plan ?
nevencycling: back again 81
Team-Mojabahs: in front all inß
Ariostea: ah che gue is not in front too... yeah - but i think my team alone won´t do it ... not strong enough on the flat - if you think you are chanceless, then don´t ride - but if want to try then help early... same for che gue...
Dead And Alive: was afk and just realised he is that far behind
Chartreuse Monks: Leo Euler needs practice ?
nevencycling: i have no one who can win this satge, i only work if CheGue and you are in together
Ariostea: cause i have no flat power...
Ariostea: from km 81 would be perfect...
Ariostea: neven - if you want to work... bring 1 of your 50-80 guys after the 6...
Chartreuse Monks: true
Ariostea: no way look at my team... and everybody else is in front...
Chartreuse Monks: but then...
Chartreuse Monks: you will make it
Chartreuse Monks: cool
Chartreuse Monks: 150km to go
Ariostea: there is no later... have to go fast now
Ariostea: uff - bad training for my guys by the way
nevencycling: later, already lost one
Ariostea: neven if you want to help in the back - you are welcome
kenzot: i understand not good english sorry
Dead And Alive: lorenzo could be good as helper in the end but decided to hang there early
Dead And Alive: well baumann in fact doesnt have that big chances but it is kenzots only classic guy
Dead And Alive: i was as surprised as you are
Ariostea: i mean nrmally...
Ariostea: why are these guys in front? the are good for winning behind...
Dead And Alive: on baumann
Chartreuse Monks: I want my money !!!
Chartreuse Monks: grrr
Ariostea: where was he hanging with this guys?
Dead And Alive: joseph
Ariostea: ah that´s good! - it´s not good at all - but in this case it´s good for me...
Chartreuse Monks: and mountains
Dead And Alive: hersfeld off and already hanging with his classic (after the first ~20km)
Chartreuse Monks: 165km
Ariostea: might be too late already - strong group there and 6 minutes...
Chartreuse Monks: Team-Mojabahs any problem with the group ?
Dead And Alive: hello ariostea
Ariostea: had technical problems - but around now
Ariostea: hello
Dead And Alive: joseph 0points:P
Chartreuse Monks: Lazy Djawad only 1point
Team-Mojabahs: moin
Dead And Alive: no cauchy here?
Dead And Alive: hm what happened to my line up?
Chartreuse Monks: kenzot you wont wait for me ?*
Chartreuse Monks: moin moin
opera: hi
CheGue: good morning,guys....
