Unrealistic Arrangements Dreizehn, r FCSL

[flockmastoR]

Perhaps the FPC should take a closer look at the voluntary disclosure in this case.

So not allowed to sit anymore?

Made mistakes, sure. But also helped a lot guys learning the game and build a nice team. Half your team is made of my advice.

And what do you mean with agreements? Maybe following my instructions move by move to win Itzulia and giving me a stage in exchange?

VB would have been caught yesterday. Thats smart racing, not surprised you didn’t get it.


Be humble Donto. You profitated more from me than anyone else.

- Unrealistic arrangements are not allowed
- Every manager must do the best for his team . Separation of private and C4F is required.

With all the chat groups around and used to coordinate multies, it is obvious to think they also use it to make unrealistic arrangements. It is usually hard to prove, but Dreizehn telling us that he is involved in such a thing makes it maybe easier to fine it.

[drei.zehn]

I won the stage, he won GC

- Every manager must do the best for his team . Separation of private and C4F is required.

So tell me in which world this can be an unrealistic arrangement?

[flockmastoR]

I won the stage, he won GC

- Every manager must do the best for his team . Separation of private and C4F is required.

So tell me in which world this can be an unrealistic arrangement?

It's unrealistic if you make arrangements in chat groups that are hidden for other players.
It's a game of incomplete information, if some players profit from information based on their personal connections this is an unfair advantage. Maximizing your profit doesn't necessarily mean that the actions that took you there must be legal.

[Berlin Marks]

You need to know that Donto is really bad and has some mentors and Donto maybe got some tips from one of his mentors in the race.. like always.

[flockmastoR]

You need to know that Donto is really bad and has some mentors and Donto maybe got some tips from one of his mentors in the race.. like always.

Sorry but you just go off topic and add a personal attack to it.

Maybe following my instructions move by move to win Itzulia and giving me a stage in exchange?

get a stage in exchange, well how else would you read it if not for an arrangement

[drei.zehn]

I won the stage, he won GC

- Every manager must do the best for his team . Separation of private and C4F is required.

So tell me in which world this can be an unrealistic arrangement?

It's unrealistic if you make arrangements in chat groups that are hidden for other players.
It's a game of incomplete information, if some players profit from information based on their personal connections this is an unfair advantage. Maximizing your profit doesn't necessarily mean that the actions that took you there must be legal.

And where is this in the rulebook? Thats just your interpretation. Realistic means for me in cycling. And one taking gc, the other the stage is very realistic in this case.

And to make it clear. In the original statement it maybe sounds worse cause I was angry with Donto. We attacked together, worked together as good as possible to the line. He took gc and didn’t sprint for stage in exchange. I didn’t asked for it, it was his Intention to not sprint.

[drei.zehn]

Sorry but you just go off topic and add a personal attack to it.

I'm not sure who is playing out a personal issue here.

[flockmastoR]

I won the stage, he won GC

- Every manager must do the best for his team . Separation of private and C4F is required.

So tell me in which world this can be an unrealistic arrangement?

It's unrealistic if you make arrangements in chat groups that are hidden for other players.
It's a game of incomplete information, if some players profit from information based on their personal connections this is an unfair advantage. Maximizing your profit doesn't necessarily mean that the actions that took you there must be legal.

And where is this in the rulebook? Thats just your interpretation. Realistic means for me in cycling. And one taking gc, the other the stage is very realistic in this case.

I think everybody with some common sense reads it in that way, given that there are outside-game communication about actions.

And to make it clear. In the original statement it maybe sounds worse cause I was angry with Donto. We attacked together, worked together as good as possible to the line. He took gc and didn’t sprint for stage in exchange. I didn’t asked for it, it was his Intention to not sprint.

I didn't say that you are guilty of whatsoever. Just that your message might be a reason to look at it closer, as one could read it in that way. And the formulation "following my instructions move by move to win Itzulia and giving me a stage in exchange" really targets towards my interpretation.

[flockmastoR]

Sorry but you just go off topic and add a personal attack to it.

I'm not sure who is playing out a personal issue here.

Sorry but nobody ever goes personal against you, while you and your (former) friends go personal against admins and FPC members all the time. You compare the methods with those of the 3.Reich and rage around on every channel. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[drei.zehn]

I didn't say that you are guilty of whatsoever. Just that your message might be a reason to look at it closer, as one could read it in that way. And the formulation "following my instructions move by move to win Itzulia and giving me a stage in exchange" really targets towards my interpretation.

Like I’ve said, sounds worse cause I was angry. Donto the biggest abuser of personal DMs in races pointing at others for „arrangements“

[drei.zehn]

Sorry but you just go off topic and add a personal attack to it.

I'm not sure who is playing out a personal issue here.

Sorry but nobody ever goes personal against you, while you and your (former) friends go personal against admins and FPC members all the time. You compare the methods with those of the 3.Reich and rage around on every channel. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Ah come that was just a really bad joke, deleted it immediately. Actually hoped that noone ever saw it cause I just embarassed myself there