BigDonkey. non stop insults for weeks.

[Robyklebt]

1) You remember. Good, so basically you now admit that you indeed DID insult me, and that my assertion that you insulted me was correct. Thanks. I'll try to figure out the date later. If that's what you mean by "try."

I have been insulting by you for weeks, non stop. And you still argue about imaginary insults and 1 fairness vote (that was ironic, not insulting) when you insulted me on purpose hundred of times and never stopped harassing me. How can you do that ? I really do not understand how.

Imaginary insults? If I understood you right you just said you remembered the example. So it's NOT imaginary. And it's 2 fairness votes. Plus we could discuss about the repeated "animals" in the fairness votes. My team name is donkey, not animal, calling somebody an animal is indeed insulting. Calling somebody Marine Le Pen (or comparing him to her, don't remember the exact wording) as you did in one chat is insulting.

2) Ah, it's ironic. So not insulting. First, irony can be insulting too. Second, irony can't really always be read. Thirdly, again, generally if you use it to me "sick" and "paranoiac" are not insulting?

[Robyklebt]

Because you know, OL, you just called me "sick" in our chat today. And, that, my dear OL is an insultSo either you completely lack self awareness and don't even realize when you are insulting (like the insult at 1) I mentioned, you only realized it when I pointed it out) or you are completely dishonest.

Anyway, about today we'll discuss in another thread. The one where I ask for a fine for you.

[olmania]

1) You remember. Good, so basically you now admit that you indeed DID insult me, and that my assertion that you insulted me was correct. Thanks. I'll try to figure out the date later. If that's what you mean by "try."

I have been insulting by you for weeks, non stop. And you still argue about imaginary insults and 1 fairness vote (that was ironic, not insulting) when you insulted me on purpose hundred of times and never stopped harassing me. How can you do that ? I really do not understand how.

Imaginary insults? If I understood you right you just said you remembered the example. So it's NOT imaginary. And it's 2 fairness votes. Plus we could discuss about the repeated "animals" in the fairness votes. My team name is donkey, not animal, calling somebody an animal is indeed insulting. Calling somebody Marine Le Pen (or comparing him to her, don't remember the exact wording) as you did in one chat is insulting.

2) Ah, it's ironic. So not insulting. First, irony can be insulting too. Second, irony can't really always be read. Thirdly, again, generally if you use it to me "sick" and "paranoiac" are not insulting?

If a Donkey is not an animal ...

About 1/3 of French population would be proud to be her, I can't know on what third you d be if you were french. as it was only an assertion/metaphoric comparison ...

Yes, mirror effect as I said. If wanted to insult you, I d have done it everyday, answering your insults by insults.
and if you want to make a comparison of what you call my insults, compared to the one you wrote to me and I showed earlier ...

Still waiting for FPC answer to my questions.

[Robyklebt]

Ok, I start to see:
You never insulted me. You used what you called "bad words", but it was not insults.
-"sick" is mirroring (which is nothing other than a less creative payback, after all payback is there to mirror the feelings (no fun) you inflicted on me during the TdF but using a different method, while mirroring is doing that using the same method). So not an insult according to you.
- 1/3 would be proud, so no insult. Plus a metaphor. For what? And what was that metaphor supposed to show? And of course the other 2/3 would of french would be very very insulted to be called or "metaphored" Marine Le Pen. Was the metaphor there to make me happy? Just pointless, kind of performance art surrealistic chatting?
- The insult you tried to apologize somehow doesn't seem to count, even if now you remember it.

So it seems that according to you I'm making up stuff, because even if you used "bad words" it was always somehow not insulting. According to OL bad words used by OL in this case are not insults.

All this "explanations"seem a bit childish to me, but ok, if that's what it is, there's not much more to say I guess. .

From the other thread:

Really funny.
When I proposed you that olive branch you refused it, and kept insulting and harassing me, on purpose.
And now you say I refuse the one you give. Of course I do. I was insulted and harassed for weeks, and you think I am suddenly ready to be ok with that ?
No. You have to assume the consequences of your acts. Hate and violence appeals mostly hate and disgust.

Really funny? Always pleased to amuse you.
Ehm, you keep talking about that olive branch you offered, mentioned it a few times now, never went into detail what it was. And I can't seem to remember that, care to clarify?
And yes, I say you do refuse the one I offered. (By now 2) You say the same, so we agree on that. "I were insulted and harassed for weeks, and you think I am suddenly ready to be ok with that?" First, it's irrelevant what I think, it's just simply your decision. You refuse, you refuse not my decision, it's only up to you what you decide. And of course in your opening post you gave the impression that you wanted "peace".

Today, I ask you to review that case and use your power to make this unacceptable behaviour stop.

Now you seem to have changed your mind and don't want the behaviour only to stop, but to have me banned.

And I am assuming the consequences of my acts. I payed a fine. Those are the consequences. Can't assume consequences that aren't there, even if you wish that they were. I assume the consequences of my acts, you assume the consequences of yours, all pretty basic.



Btw, I'm still waiting for an answer to my question from the FC too. Starting to believe we won't get one though.

[olmania]

The only real fact is that you decided to insult and harass me in a way that should not be tolerated.

All the rest, is only your usual blablabla. (I could spend more hours, answering your previous points, but unfortunately I do not want to waste anymore of my energy and time). Let me just answer few of your last points :

Now you seem to have changed your mind and don't want the behaviour only to stop, but to have me banned.

It was clear in my mind that making it stop would have happened only with a ban, as a ban is a normal coherant punishement after such behavior.

And I can't seem to remember that, care to clarify?

If you can't remember, your problem. But I did it, it was in a chat of race beginning of august after my weeks of silence.

"I were insulted and harassed for weeks, and you think I am suddenly ready to be ok with that?" First, it's irrelevant what I think, it's just simply your decision.

Cause you suddenly seem to hope I can be ok with what happened, forgive and move further (so you think I could do so) ... The use of you think was actually more rethorical, I think. Because yeah, my decision anyway.

And I am assuming the consequences of my acts. I payed a fine.

Be happy with your fine. You should have assumed the consequences of a ban.


You can write as much as you want, we can argue months and months. It will not change what is the reality :

You did behave wrong and should be strongly punished for that (sorry, but 300k is nothing in RSF world).

No need to try to point some stuff on me, that has no link or that can't be compared to the amount of hate, insults and harassment you deployed.

I won't argue anymore, I think everybody saw what kind of horrible person you are, if they did not see it earlier.

Your arrogance and pretentions really make me angry, but what can I do, I won't travel to China tomorrow anyway.

I really hope you will be banned, because I do not want to see again what happened here anymore. To me or anyone else.
RSF is somehow dying, and if the 300k + warning (what is it for ? as you already got it in the past ...) is the penalty they set for such event, then I will just stop believing in any future on that game. If community is not able to kick out someone behaving that way, there is no place for me here anymore then, and for many other players. I prefer to leave the insulting persons and the ones tolerating them together. That's only my opinion, true. But that small thing : player not banned (even temporary) for such facts = strong disappointment, maybe the biggest one (nothing towards you Donkey in that case, would have been the same if it was someone else insulting, harassing. I only consider such actions means a ban in game community).
Then, who cares if I leave the game ? Probably no one. True. You d even maybe be happy, who knows ? Feeling that you won a fight or I don't know what kind of things you can imagine in your brain.

But at least I d feel that I did good as that game and community will die soon anyway with such decisions like the one just taken by FPK.

Like you, waiting for their answer/explanations if they can give one.

[Robyklebt]

This post certainly counts as harassing me.

Well, you claim to remember offering a branch, I don't... why not just tell me?

And no, not happy if you leave, you generally try to do good work for RSF, sometimes your ego when you don't get your way 100% gets in the way a bit like in the winter calendar, your not much fun to ride with over long periods of time due to your whining, you're a bit too vengeful, but otherwise.... no, stay.

[Robyklebt]

It was clear in my mind that making it stop would have happened only with a ban, as a ban is a normal coherant punishement after such behavior.

You were wrong. Since the harassing actually has stopped in case you didn't notice. So.. it didn't take a ban. Or tell me, when was the last time I was insulting or harassing you?
From the other thread:

if you are enjoying all of this since 3months, it's really serious (but I can't know it, I just wonder).

2 months. Start 25.07. as I posted above. If it started earlier as you keep claiming, how about posting some evidence?

[team fl]

Good input by Chartreuse, thanks for that. Case has been decided, thus can be closed. OL and Roby obviously found another thread to play in.