AGF

[Robyklebt]

viewtopic.php?f=35&t=5487

Speaks for itself. A public appeal to ride as a group.
Ask Pokemon for a translation.

[team fl]

Nothing will come close to the infamous Ape Gang. Anyway AGF sounds like Ape Gang Français. Is the Singe involved?!

But seriously... Very embarassing idea. Eye for an eye. And the whole world gets blind.

Btw. in case it gets changed, here is the quote:

Bon les gens, spécialement ceux qui court la nuit. En temps que leader autoproclamé de la communauté je décrète qu'il est temps qu'on fasse quelque chose contre le gang des italiens qui se croit tout permis, surtout entre 22h-24h.
Du coup je propose une trêve entre nous à ces horaires là, qu'on arrête de se tirer dans les pattes en permanence histoire qu'on puisse lutter contre eux efficacement, pas besoin de se cacher contre vu comment ils s'allient si ouvertement.
Si vous voulez faire parti du mouvement, dites-le, arrêtons-les, défendons-nous, entraidons-nous pour la victoire

[scorpsche]

Well during Giro I specifically asked Ide whether it is allowed to ally because there was some behavior and he said that there is no rule against.
Also I was in the same race as poke and there was some strange collab which was decisive for gc.
So it's not more important what teams are behaving rather than they make jokes in forum?

[team fl]

Well during Giro I specifically asked Ide whether it is allowed to ally because there was some behavior and he said that there is no rule against.
Also I was in the same race as poke and there was some strange collab which was decisive for gc.
So it's not more important what teams are behaving rather than they make jokes in forum?

Well, this thread is about finding out . Nevertheless, even with the smileys, it is a call for unrealistic arrangements. And a call to do something that is against the rules is a breach of rules, usually. And even if it is meant as a joke, some people could take it seriously.

And you asked Idéfix about it and take his opinion as the expertise in this question...

[scorpsche]

Still is strange some talks are more important than real actions in real existing races...but since I'm German I understand also that Germans don't understand jokes

[team fl]

So far you are the only person claiming that and the only German contributing in this thread.

[Pokemon Club]

viewtopic.php?f=35&t=5487

Speaks for itself. A public appeal to ride as a group.
Ask Pokemon for a translation.

Afternoon guys have nothing to do with this fight between Italian, french gangs and SWE. We will just do as italians, waste away some stages to have a payback on a jersey or in another stage later. Just that us, french teams, don't need to that in secret. We will just show them that together we are the best crew. If you are jalous just go find some donkeys to create your group too

[Pokemon Club]

Well, there is a fact: there is never unrealistic help between germanic teams.

Well some germans gang exist

And it isn't an FPK thing anyway. Some wants to do an alliance during races ? Just need to do a counteralliance and fight them in the road, at least it will make races funny

[luques]

Alliances are not at all forbidden, if they pursue some different goals.
Last Giro, Donkey helped sprinters even if escaping groups were not dangerous and he had not sprinter, but hoping they would help him back.

Problem is if it is unrealistic, but I don't see a thread reporting it for a specific case.
I mean, it's not by complaining in chat that the FPK will do something, you have some evidence? For example does team x always play and help team y?

My opinion? Forbid VPN or similar and many strange teams guess will disappear (well Luques too in that case )

[Pokemon Club]

Alliances are not at all forbidden, if they pursue some different goals.
Last Giro, Donkey helped sprinters even if escaping groups were not dangerous and he had not sprinter, but hoping they would help him back.

Problem is if it is unrealistic, but I don't see a thread reporting it for a specific case.
I mean, it's not by complaining in chat that the FPK will do something, you have some evidence? For example does team x always play and help team y?

My opinion? Forbid VPN or similar and many strange teams guess will disappear (well Luques too in that case )

Well some teams cares too much of stuff of others teams. There was no topic on Auxi/VP alliance anyway because it isn't needed. Senseless to call FPK when we can fight fire with fire, revenge is coming against them in the road

[scorpsche]

Leso is French too, right? Maybe he is considering to join l'AGF?

[team fl]

I have been way to busy lately (or too lazy, you figure out), but have there been any reports in the forum about this "evening culture" in the fairplay section? Because I can't remember it. The only one I could find is this one, from almost one year ago: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=5319

And leso is not a FC member technically. He IS the game together with Buhmann (and luques lately). But he is not very active in the FC part or whatever else. So instead of relying on others, do report it yourself, collect evidence, etc. Instead of going full bonkers and revenge mode. Hasn't helped anybody yet anywhere at anytime. Well, maybe it's too late for that. Maybe nothing will happend anyway. But it's not like you have tried hard to find a decent solution yet...

Anyway, I am happy in the afternoon, where you usually just insult your opponents creativly early enough to balance yourself out again.

[auxilium torino]

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=4967

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=4903

GC slovenia
01. 00:00:00 Claudio Juarez (Auxilium Torino)
02. 00:00:08 Yui Yuigahama (Pokemonogatari)
03. 00:00:09 Youssef Benatia (TeamSWE)
04. 00:00:21 Mayo Hachikuji (Pokemonogatari)
05. 00:01:04 Adil Barbari (VeloPiemonte )
06. 00:01:17 Jose Ferrer (barba roja)
07. 00:01:17 Jan Wieckert (TeamSWE)
08. 00:01:25 Piotrek Paluta (Whisbone)
09. 00:01:36 Chuck Powell (barba roja)
10. 00:02:01 Bozydar Bartkiewicz (Whisbone)

first stage slovenia

01. 00:00:00 Chuck Powell (barba roja)
02. 00:00:00 Bozydar Bartkiewicz (Whisbone)
03. 00:00:00 Kareem elAmin (TeamSWE)
04. 00:00:00 Eberhard Kneisl (Goldberg Cycling)
05. 00:00:00 JuanPablo Araya (VeloPiemonte )
06. 00:00:00 Peter Blum (Auxilium Torino)
07. 00:00:00 Narcyz Nalazek (Whisbone)
08. 00:00:00 Jose Ferrer (barba roja)
09. 00:00:00 Adil Barbari (VeloPiemonte )
10. 00:00:00 Zdzilaw Zwarycz (Whisbone)
11. 00:00:00 Louis Miam (maison viande)
12. 00:00:00 Abdelmalek Madani (VeloPiemonte )
13. 00:00:01 Dietmar Köhlbichler (Goldberg Cycling)
14. 00:00:01 Alessandro Sarezzi (TeamSWE)
15. 00:00:07 JuanJose Tarqui (Auxilium Torino)

i become also help from Barba, Poke become help from SWE that say he wil, ride also when have no chence, and this ha´pens on stage 3 before velo and barba help in back!
Thanks!

[team fl]

Pardon, what?

[Robyklebt]

Nobel prize winner post, FL, you can't expect that the guy starts making sense all of the sudden.

1) This thread is about the public appeal to ride as a group, not for each players own interests, but as a group against other teams. (I suspect the expectation by P. is that this group rides for him really). Now some are trying to make it about Aux+Italians. They are the baddies. Might be, but then open a thread. Of course the Nobel prize winner fell into the trap nicely, deflecting worked.
The topic should be if this appeal to forgo your own interests to make sure other teams don't win is acceptable.

2) Can't resist. What is the stage result of stage 1 supposed to tell us?

[Pokemon Club]

I can do that too !

Stage 4

01. 00:00:00 Patri Montée (maison viande)
02. 00:00:00 Yui Yuigahama (Pokemonogatari)
03. 00:00:00 Youssef Benatia (TeamSWE)
04. 00:00:00 Mayo Hachikuji (Pokemonogatari)
05. 00:00:49 Chuck Powell (barba roja)
06. 00:00:49 Bozydar Bartkiewicz (Whisbone)
07. 00:00:49 Jose Ferrer (barba roja)
08. 00:00:49 Peter Blum (Auxilium Torino)
09. 00:00:49 Jan Wieckert (TeamSWE)
10. 00:00:49 Adil Barbari (VeloPiemonte )
11. 00:00:49 Claudio Juarez (Auxilium Torino)
12. 00:00:49 Elias Leopold (Auxilium Torino)
13. 00:00:49 Piotrek Paluta (Whisbone)
14. 00:00:49 Wim VanCapellen (VeloPiemonte )
15. 00:02:20 Nico Polanski (Goldberg Cycling)

So this day VP rode something like 40 km alone against riders he couldn't catch at GK, and for a stage he knew from long he couldn't win. SWE + Poke collab ? In front of him for 1 sec after the 20 last TT km, for sure we shouldn't collab . How you explain that Auxi ?

And FL I absolutely don't care about your happiness the afternoon. Who are you to judge if to ride for revenge is good or bad ? You want to join Auxi and VP in the AGF list ?

[team fl]

Pardon, what?

[Robyklebt]

Further attempt at deflection. Afshin winning seems to have made your mind slower. Do I need to explain everything now?

[team fl]

Please.

[scorpsche]

I have been way to busy lately (or too lazy, you figure out), but have there been any reports in the forum about this "evening culture" in the fairplay section? Because I can't remember it. The only one I could find is this one, from almost one year ago: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=5319

And leso is not a FC member technically. He IS the game together with Buhmann (and luques lately). But he is not very active in the FC part or whatever else. So instead of relying on others, do report it yourself, collect evidence, etc. Instead of going full bonkers and revenge mode. Hasn't helped anybody yet anywhere at anytime. Well, maybe it's too late for that. Maybe nothing will happend anyway. But it's not like you have tried hard to find a decent solution yet...

Anyway, I am happy in the afternoon, where you usually just insult your opponents creativly early enough to balance yourself out again.

Just all fpc re-watch tonight's Savoie Mont Blanc 23h.
Two teams from the suspected group start siebing at same km without any announcement in chat.
Even Aux is involved as sitter.
Guess this is what is called a "14 riders team"...well up to you to decide whether this is inline with Fairplay...

[team fl]

Youvare off topic in this thread, actually.

[scorpsche]

No this is exactly the topic.

[team fl]

Nope. The topic is the AGF. Respectively what Pokemon posted in his message mentioned in the start post. If you want to discuss your problem mention in your post, why not open a thread esp. about that?

[scorpsche]

Well I eventually will but we all know the result already.

[team fl]

You wont find out if you dont try.